Tories are still lying *******s

***Hibernia&Alba*** · 02-10-2022 06:17 PM

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Treasury minister Chris Philp says no business with under 500 staff will be subject to business regulation ...

https://twitter.com/votepoliticsuk/s...xSbJjFrBbybWMg

What does that mean exactly? Will they exempt from all minimum standards?

***Ozyhibby*** · 02-10-2022 06:37 PM

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What does that mean exactly? Will they exempt from all minimum standards?

Does it mean that gas fitters no longer need their gas safe qualification and license?

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***Kato*** · 02-10-2022 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by grunt

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Treasury minister Chris Philp says no business with under 500 staff will be subject to business regulation ...

https://twitter.com/votepoliticsuk/s...xSbJjFrBbybWMg

This is a brexit benefit, for them though not the workers who voted for brexit and for the tories.

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***Keith_M*** · 02-10-2022 06:49 PM

From The Guardian....

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***Hibernia&Alba*** · 02-10-2022 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by Kato

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This is a brexit benefit, for them though not the workers who voted for brexit and for the tories.

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Yes, the race to the bottom was always the goal of Brexit. Protections for workers, public services and the environment go down the cludgie. Truss has gone full steam ahead with Milton Friedman madness; Toryism on steroids, a Daily Telegraph wet dream.

***Hibernia&Alba*** · 02-10-2022 07:00 PM

Making a fortune from doing nothing. Making money from money, the apotheosis of capitalism. Nice work if you have the ear of the chancellor:

***Bostonhibby*** · 02-10-2022 08:35 PM

Originally Posted by Kato

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This is a brexit benefit, for them though not the workers who voted for brexit and for the tories.

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Got blue passports coming and crowns on pint glasses so I'm sure it will all be seen as worthwhile. Not as if we couldn't have had them anyway........

On a more serious note this has the potential to drive the businesses liability insurance costs through the roof, particularly Employers liability. Unless the nasties abolish that as well.

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**Glory Lurker** · 02-10-2022 09:55 PM

Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba

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Yes, the race to the bottom was always the goal of Brexit. Protections for workers, public services and the environment go down the cludgie. Truss has gone full steam ahead with Milton Friedman madness; Toryism on steroids, a Daily Telegraph wet dream.

Which is exactly why most of the Tories who campaigned for Remain were able to "move on". They were only in it for the trade side and consoled themselves with the opportunities to dismantle employment rights

***Smartie*** · 02-10-2022 10:01 PM

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Got blue passports coming and crowns on pint glasses so I'm sure it will all be seen as worthwhile. Not as if we couldn't have had them anyway........

On a more serious note this has the potential to drive the businesses liability insurance costs through the roof, particularly Employers liability. Unless the nasties abolish that as well.

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Given that we are still (I think) a democracy and that the vast majority of people are either workers or on the side of the workers, would you not think that they're just making themselves unelectable for a generation if they make such an assault on worker's rights?

It might impress their influential pals but it won't win votes.

***Jack*** · 02-10-2022 10:30 PM

Originally Posted by Smartie

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Given that we are still (I think) a democracy and that the vast majority of people are either workers or on the side of the workers, would you not think that they're just making themselves unelectable for a generation if they make such an assault on worker's rights?

It might impress their influential pals but it won't win votes.

The tory media will portray the loss of workers rights as a good thing and anyone disagreeing (trade unions) will be demonised. Let's face it Labour aren't going to say anything for fear of being ... err ... demonised!

***Kato*** · 02-10-2022 11:11 PM

Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba

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What does that mean exactly? Will they exempt from all minimum standards?

Here is the press release for the announcement.

No discussion in parliament, the new threshold of 500 employees kicks in tomorrow.

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***stokesmessiah*** · 03-10-2022 05:48 AM

Sky news reporting that Truss is going to drop plans to scrap the top tax bracket.

That is an embarrassing climb down for her already.

***Stairway 2 7*** · 03-10-2022 05:52 AM

Originally Posted by stokesmessiah

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Sky news reporting that Truss is going to drop plans to scrap the top tax bracket.

That is an embarrassing climb down for her already.

Unbelievably embarrassing stuff from them

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NEW: Liz Truss preparing to ditch 45p rate TODAY after late crisis talks with Chancellor

Humiliating climb down plan comes after day of acrimony on Brum

Announcement expected in morn in body blow to new Government

No denial from No10 this eve
https://thesun.co.uk/news/19984995/

***Jack*** · 03-10-2022 05:55 AM

Chancellor Kami-Kwasi is expected to make a statement in the next hour, reversing the proposed scrapping of the 45p rate of income tax, 10 days after it was announced in the mini-budget.

The U-turn comes after several Tory MPs voiced their opposition to the plan.

BBC political correspondent Nick Eardley said government sources were not commenting.

Ex-cabinet minister Grant Shapps had warned Liz Truss could lose a Commons vote on the proposal.

The plan to scrap the 45p rate, paid by people earning over £150,000 a year, had been criticised as unfair at time of rising living costs.

On Sunday, the prime minister told the BBC she was committed to it, saying it was part of an "overall package of making our tax system simpler and lower".

**Mr Grieves** · 03-10-2022 06:07 AM

Originally Posted by stokesmessiah

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Sky news reporting that Truss is going to drop plans to scrap the top tax bracket.

That is an embarrassing climb down for her already.

They couldn't have handled this worse if they tried.

BTW , the commentators and journalists that put pressure on the devolved governments to cut taxes have lost credibility

**hibsbollah** · 03-10-2022 06:13 AM

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They couldn't have handled this worse if they tried.

BTW , the commentators and journalists that put pressure on the devolved governments to cut taxes have lost credibility

It’s gone

I suppose we should be grateful, the interesting thing is whether it will improve their polling fortunes. I’m not sure voters like spineless any more than they like greedy and corrupt, mind you.

***Stairway 2 7*** · 03-10-2022 06:14 AM

The absolute gimps in the Scottish media and politics that were telling the snp to do the same, please come forward. Also the idiots going to move south to save tax, 👋

***Callum_62*** · 03-10-2022 06:38 AM

Haha - we get it and have listened

Crikey

I wonder when Douglas Ross will be getting doorstepped about this

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-p...5Bpost+type%5D

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**~~ronaldo7~~** · 03-10-2022 06:39 AM

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The absolute gimps in the Scottish media and politics that were telling the snp to do the same, please come forward. Also the idiots going to move south to save tax, 👋

The leader of the Scottish Tories and a poster on here with a ridder.😳

***Stairway 2 7*** · 03-10-2022 06:43 AM

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The leader of the Scottish Tories and a poster on here with a ridder.😳

We might get trickle down apologies. It'll start at the top and surely eventually reach us at the bottom

**~~ronaldo7~~** · 03-10-2022 06:44 AM

Removals companies all over Scotland going bust, as contracts dry up.

Top lawyers look to reverse decisions. 😂

***Bostonhibby*** · 03-10-2022 07:28 AM

Originally Posted by Smartie

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Given that we are still (I think) a democracy and that the vast majority of people are either workers or on the side of the workers, would you not think that they're just making themselves unelectable for a generation if they make such an assault on worker's rights?

It might impress their influential pals but it won't win votes.

Yes I do, I sincerely hope so.

My concern would be they manufacture another short term bribe or scaremongering about threats to the nation that only they can solve or indeed whip up some internal division.

The folk pulling the strings of nasty conservativeism recently have done very well out of it and it's not in their character to say enough is enough.

Thinking about it, the puppeteers might well see the 45p distraction as worthwhile given that bankers bonus caps, savaging workers rights and the pillaging by hedge funds survive, or will conference be screaming about abolishing those and recovering the cash from Kwakers pal next?

Thought not.

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***Bostonhibby*** · 03-10-2022 07:33 AM

Originally Posted by stokesmessiah

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Sky news reporting that Truss is going to drop plans to scrap the top tax bracket.

That is an embarrassing climb down for her already.

Expect a major speech to say It's okay she will get another bracket and her and Kwakers will have another go at getting that shelf up.

This Bozo style U turn will be heralded as a sign of greatness. In reality the fact it had to be made so soon after the dullard was backing it tells you how brazen and shameless they really are.

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***Moulin Yarns*** · 03-10-2022 08:20 AM

It was a distraction!

No it was a misjudged attempt to appeal to your donators.

Tory chairman hints at April 2024 election.

***Moulin Yarns*** · 03-10-2022 08:40 AM

Alyn Smith on twitter

My thoughts with all the folks starting their days deleting tweets about how Scotland should follow Mrs Truss and her “bold plans” for tax cuts

***Kato*** · 03-10-2022 08:50 AM

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It was a distraction!

No it was a misjudged attempt to appeal to your donators.

Tory chairman hints at April 2024 election.

It was also a financial window for all the Hedgefunders to cash in on the pound and for the Bank Of England to splash us 60 billion more in debt.

Reckless and they should be in jail. A heist.

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