Sportscene 22/23

[James70]

Porteous would have been crucified if he had made Devlin's tackle, not even worth a booking according to the yams.

[Carheenlea]

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I don’t watch Sportscene, primarily because it is an amateur hour s**t show, so I don’t quite grasp what Michael Stewart is going on about when he questions Hibs’ ‘identity’? Does he define what he means by informing the viewer about the ‘identity’ of others Clubs i.e. does he identify Hearts as a freestyle freefalling Club?


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I’m guessing it’s a convoluted way of saying that we maybe didn’t have a settled starting line up?

Is it an identity for the supporters to forge with a raft of new signings? Needing to play a good few games together before feeling like “Hibs”?

Maybe a bit of both.

[Victor]

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I’m guessing it’s a convoluted way of saying that we maybe didn’t have a settled starting line up?

Is it an identity for the supporters to forge with a raft of new signings? Needing to play a good few games together before feeling like “Hibs”?

Maybe a bit of both.

Thanks. All sounds a bit desperate. Criticism for criticism’s sake.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

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Thanks. All sounds a bit desperate. Criticism for criticism’s sake.

Think that Mikey is also trying to find his identity. A bit like Rugby Tom, but actually been a professional player.

[BlackSheep]

When he talks about identity I think he is looking for a defined way of playing… ie high pressing or counter attacking or long ball specialists, etc etc.

I think what he is missing is that we are slowly starting to fit what Johnson said in the summer and that’s a pacey attacking team.

All the way down to the GKs quick distribution to the ball boys getting the ball to the throwers quickly… speed is our identity right now.

Stewart is like a dog with a bone at times… just look at how often he talks about Porto’s concentration levels… he has that wrong too… Porto never has lapses in concentration, it’s when he loses any level headedness that he suffers and makes a silly tackle or gets involved with a player… other than that Porto hasn’t shown very many consistent flaws that have held him back whatsoever.

[brog]

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Was there not a social from the club during the week quoting stats to the effect that he's got either the best, or second best, connected passes of any Premiership centre backs?

Never let the facts get in the way of a Michael Stewart opinion. The narrative about a lack of concentration is just a new diversionary tactic to avoid saying I was wrong. IMO, and those on Sky, The Rangers were denied a clear 3rd goal when Gordon flapped at the ball. Stewart was only one who said it was a foul and he wouldn't even debate it. I used to like him as a pundit but now he's like a spoilt kid who knows he's wrong but won't admit it and instead just double downs.

[green day]

Perhaps going against the crowd here, but I didn't think he said anything too bad.

It felt like he was suggesting that, if he concentrates 100% on the game and plays like he did for Scotland, that Porteous will become a real top class defender at a much higher level.

I think he's right.

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Never let the facts get in the way of a Michael Stewart opinion. The narrative about a lack of concentration is just a new diversionary tactic to avoid saying I was wrong. IMO, and those on Sky, The Rangers were denied a clear 3rd goal when Gordon flapped at the ball. Stewart was only one who said it was a foul and he wouldn't even debate it. I used to like him as a pundit but now he's like a spoilt kid who knows he's wrong but won't admit it and instead just double downs.

That is the politician in him, but interesting to see on the bbc website they cannot get enough of our new sensation, Porto the Dalkeith Baresi.
They would sell their own Granny for a headline, lowlifes that they are, never done a real days work in their lives.

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Perhaps going against the crowd here, but I didn't think he said anything too bad.

It felt like he was suggesting that, if he concentrates 100% on the game and plays like he did for Scotland, that Porteous will become a real top class defender at a much higher level.

I think he's right.

Pische, like most young centre halfs he will not reach his peak as a defender till he is around 28 years old, his concentration levels are fine and he is in my humble the best young centre half we have produced going back over 60 years. He is better than Steven tweed and Craig Paterson at young age. he is a top class defender now who will get even better.

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he is a top class defender now who will get even better.

Isn't that what I said?

And, I think you mean "pish"......

[GRA]

Lost all respect for this programme with their highlights and 'analysis' after the Dons game. The fixation with Porto's pen & Goodwins comments rather than focussing on how we bossed the game (especially Porto) was atrocious. Didn't even balance it with debating the 2 stonewall pens, one act of blatant cheating by the Dons defence didn't even make the highlights reel!

[ancient hibee]

Good to see the manager having a dig in an interview in the Sunday Times today.

[PaulSmith]

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Good to see the manager having a dig in an interview in the Sunday Times today.

Any chance of a copy and paste of the interview?

[Hibs4185]

Is it just me or is the tiny super duper hybrid pitch looking a bit bare in places? Only a few weeks into the season and it’s struggling already

[Col2]

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Any chance of a copy and paste of the interview?

It’s a blessing and a curse. The passion and opinion that comes with it is a blessing, but if you lose your focus it’s a curse. You can feel mini vendettas because of the intensity of playing each other so many times plus the media exposure. You can get sucked into that.”

That’s why he’s consciously stayed out of the sequels to five red cards being dished out to opposition players this season. What he won’t accept is that it’s fortune favouring Hibs. “I haven’t watched Soccerscene [Sportscene, the BBC’s highlights show], apart from once — after the Aberdeen game — and now I know why I don’t watch it.

“I was listening to [pundit] Mikey Stewart, I haven’t got a problem with him, but he was like ‘What is the identity? Hibs have played against teams that have had a man sent off’.

“I’d say that our good play creates the sending-offs. When you play the ball over the top and [Martin] Boyle gets in behind against a slowish defender and he pulls him down, that’s worked on. When [Liam] Scales takes down Josh Campbell when he does a little trick with quick feet, that’s skill, when we isolate for the [Ryan] Porteous one-on-one with a defender ...

“I’d say a lot of those sending-offs have been down to skill, fitness, tactics and not just because somebody has turned round and smacked someone like the [Alfredo] Morelos one [against Rangers]. You try and create threats and problems for the opponent and do a lot of work on isolating your strengths versus their weaknesses, whether that’s a set play or a ball over the top because you have elongated the pitch and made penetrative runs.

“That’s my point. It’s not fluke that’s happened. We are not telling players to cheat at all, but we are working on these things.”

[Libby Hibby]

Can admins please change this thread title to ’Soccerscene’ just for the bants.

[greenlex]

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Can admins please change this thread title to ’Soccerscene’ just for the bants.

I’ll second that.

[H18 SFR]

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Can admins please change this thread title to ’Soccerscene’ just for the bants.

Came on to post this. Simply has to happen.

[ekhibee]

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Never let the facts get in the way of a Michael Stewart opinion. The narrative about a lack of concentration is just a new diversionary tactic to avoid saying I was wrong. IMO, and those on Sky, The Rangers were denied a clear 3rd goal when Gordon flapped at the ball. Stewart was only one who said it was a foul and he wouldn't even debate it. I used to like him as a pundit but now he's like a spoilt kid who knows he's wrong but won't admit it and instead just double downs.

Totally agree with this, it must be nearly time for his contract renewal and I wouldn't be surprised if the likes of Levein was waiting in the wings to replace him. Used to like him but he's well and truly jumped on the BBC bandwagon.

[Kato]

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It’s a blessing and a curse. The passion and opinion that comes with it is a blessing, but if you lose your focus it’s a curse. You can feel mini vendettas because of the intensity of playing each other so many times plus the media exposure. You can get sucked into that.”

That’s why he’s consciously stayed out of the sequels to five red cards being dished out to opposition players this season. What he won’t accept is that it’s fortune favouring Hibs. “I haven’t watched Soccerscene [Sportscene, the BBC’s highlights show], apart from once — after the Aberdeen game — and now I know why I don’t watch it.

“I was listening to [pundit] Mikey Stewart, I haven’t got a problem with him, but he was like ‘What is the identity? Hibs have played against teams that have had a man sent off’.

“I’d say that our good play creates the sending-offs. When you play the ball over the top and [Martin] Boyle gets in behind against a slowish defender and he pulls him down, that’s worked on. When [Liam] Scales takes down Josh Campbell when he does a little trick with quick feet, that’s skill, when we isolate for the [Ryan] Porteous one-on-one with a defender ...

“I’d say a lot of those sending-offs have been down to skill, fitness, tactics and not just because somebody has turned round and smacked someone like the [Alfredo] Morelos one [against Rangers]. You try and create threats and problems for the opponent and do a lot of work on isolating your strengths versus their weaknesses, whether that’s a set play or a ball over the top because you have elongated the pitch and made penetrative runs.

“That’s my point. It’s not fluke that’s happened. We are not telling players to cheat at all, but we are working on these things.”

Brilliant

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[He's here!]

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It’s a blessing and a curse. The passion and opinion that comes with it is a blessing, but if you lose your focus it’s a curse. You can feel mini vendettas because of the intensity of playing each other so many times plus the media exposure. You can get sucked into that.”

That’s why he’s consciously stayed out of the sequels to five red cards being dished out to opposition players this season. What he won’t accept is that it’s fortune favouring Hibs. “I haven’t watched Soccerscene [Sportscene, the BBC’s highlights show], apart from once — after the Aberdeen game — and now I know why I don’t watch it.

“I was listening to [pundit] Mikey Stewart, I haven’t got a problem with him, but he was like ‘What is the identity? Hibs have played against teams that have had a man sent off’.

“I’d say that our good play creates the sending-offs. When you play the ball over the top and [Martin] Boyle gets in behind against a slowish defender and he pulls him down, that’s worked on. When [Liam] Scales takes down Josh Campbell when he does a little trick with quick feet, that’s skill, when we isolate for the [Ryan] Porteous one-on-one with a defender ...

“I’d say a lot of those sending-offs have been down to skill, fitness, tactics and not just because somebody has turned round and smacked someone like the [Alfredo] Morelos one [against Rangers]. You try and create threats and problems for the opponent and do a lot of work on isolating your strengths versus their weaknesses, whether that’s a set play or a ball over the top because you have elongated the pitch and made penetrative runs.

“That’s my point. It’s not fluke that’s happened. We are not telling players to cheat at all, but we are working on these things.”

Great stuff.

[basehibby]

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Can admins please change this thread title to ’Soccerscene’ just for the bants.

This has surely got to happen

[poolman]

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Never let the facts get in the way of a Michael Stewart opinion. The narrative about a lack of concentration is just a new diversionary tactic to avoid saying I was wrong. IMO, and those on Sky, The Rangers were denied a clear 3rd goal when Gordon flapped at the ball. Stewart was only one who said it was a foul and he wouldn't even debate it. I used to like him as a pundit but now he's like a spoilt kid who knows he's wrong but won't admit it and instead just double downs.

How he can read that as a foul I'll never know, Gordon ( great keeper ) came out and got a hand to the ball and his momentum took him into the Gers player, if anything it was Gordon that fouled him
Don't have a clue how MS says it was a foul on the keeper

Maybe he should ' concentrate ' a bit more

[Stairway 2 7]

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It’s a blessing and a curse. The passion and opinion that comes with it is a blessing, but if you lose your focus it’s a curse. You can feel mini vendettas because of the intensity of playing each other so many times plus the media exposure. You can get sucked into that.”

That’s why he’s consciously stayed out of the sequels to five red cards being dished out to opposition players this season. What he won’t accept is that it’s fortune favouring Hibs. “I haven’t watched Soccerscene [Sportscene, the BBC’s highlights show], apart from once — after the Aberdeen game — and now I know why I don’t watch it.

“I was listening to [pundit] Mikey Stewart, I haven’t got a problem with him, but he was like ‘What is the identity? Hibs have played against teams that have had a man sent off’.

“I’d say that our good play creates the sending-offs. When you play the ball over the top and [Martin] Boyle gets in behind against a slowish defender and he pulls him down, that’s worked on. When [Liam] Scales takes down Josh Campbell when he does a little trick with quick feet, that’s skill, when we isolate for the [Ryan] Porteous one-on-one with a defender ...

“I’d say a lot of those sending-offs have been down to skill, fitness, tactics and not just because somebody has turned round and smacked someone like the [Alfredo] Morelos one [against Rangers]. You try and create threats and problems for the opponent and do a lot of work on isolating your strengths versus their weaknesses, whether that’s a set play or a ball over the top because you have elongated the pitch and made penetrative runs.

“That’s my point. It’s not fluke that’s happened. We are not telling players to cheat at all, but we are working on these things.”

Brilliant and that's why he's a manager and Stewart is only on soccerscene

[hibsbollah]

So how WAS Soccerscene this weekend? I must have missed it.

[Aldo]

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So how WAS Soccerscene this weekend? I must have missed it.

You obviously aren’t concentrating enough!


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You obviously aren’t concentrating enough!


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The Daily Record has learned that Hibernian manager Lee Johnson is under fire from furious football fans up and down the country for deliberately misnaming BBC Scotland’s well respected flagship sports programme.

[gbhibby]

I was the OP for this thread so admins please change the title. Anybody from now on must never call the programme S####scene.

[Bostonhibby]

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It’s a blessing and a curse. The passion and opinion that comes with it is a blessing, but if you lose your focus it’s a curse. You can feel mini vendettas because of the intensity of playing each other so many times plus the media exposure. You can get sucked into that.”

That’s why he’s consciously stayed out of the sequels to five red cards being dished out to opposition players this season. What he won’t accept is that it’s fortune favouring Hibs. “I haven’t watched Soccerscene [Sportscene, the BBC’s highlights show], apart from once — after the Aberdeen game — and now I know why I don’t watch it.

“I was listening to [pundit] Mikey Stewart, I haven’t got a problem with him, but he was like ‘What is the identity? Hibs have played against teams that have had a man sent off’.

“I’d say that our good play creates the sending-offs. When you play the ball over the top and [Martin] Boyle gets in behind against a slowish defender and he pulls him down, that’s worked on. When [Liam] Scales takes down Josh Campbell when he does a little trick with quick feet, that’s skill, when we isolate for the [Ryan] Porteous one-on-one with a defender ...

“I’d say a lot of those sending-offs have been down to skill, fitness, tactics and not just because somebody has turned round and smacked someone like the [Alfredo] Morelos one [against Rangers]. You try and create threats and problems for the opponent and do a lot of work on isolating your strengths versus their weaknesses, whether that’s a set play or a ball over the top because you have elongated the pitch and made penetrative runs.

“That’s my point. It’s not fluke that’s happened. We are not telling players to cheat at all, but we are working on these things.”

Well thought out post,I agree every word. Surely a career with Sportscene beckons? Or running a few training courses in analysis and objectivity or at least how not to be biased, superficial and intransigent.

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It’s a blessing and a curse. The passion and opinion that comes with it is a blessing, but if you lose your focus it’s a curse. You can feel mini vendettas because of the intensity of playing each other so many times plus the media exposure. You can get sucked into that.”

That’s why he’s consciously stayed out of the sequels to five red cards being dished out to opposition players this season. What he won’t accept is that it’s fortune favouring Hibs. “I haven’t watched Soccerscene [Sportscene, the BBC’s highlights show], apart from once — after the Aberdeen game — and now I know why I don’t watch it.

“I was listening to [pundit] Mikey Stewart, I haven’t got a problem with him, but he was like ‘What is the identity? Hibs have played against teams that have had a man sent off’.

“I’d say that our good play creates the sending-offs. When you play the ball over the top and [Martin] Boyle gets in behind against a slowish defender and he pulls him down, that’s worked on. When [Liam] Scales takes down Josh Campbell when he does a little trick with quick feet, that’s skill, when we isolate for the [Ryan] Porteous one-on-one with a defender ...

“I’d say a lot of those sending-offs have been down to skill, fitness, tactics and not just because somebody has turned round and smacked someone like the [Alfredo] Morelos one [against Rangers]. You try and create threats and problems for the opponent and do a lot of work on isolating your strengths versus their weaknesses, whether that’s a set play or a ball over the top because you have elongated the pitch and made penetrative runs.

“That’s my point. It’s not fluke that’s happened. We are not telling players to cheat at all, but we are working on these things.”

Standing up for his team in a controlled and classy way.

Hibs class