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    https://www.ft.com/content/e6884fa0-...0-354ac743571a

    Brexit ideology lies behind the UK’s market rout
    Kwarteng’s statement last week was just one manifestation of the elevation of absolutism over economics


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    Dover getting its excuses in early for NEXT summer 🤣

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    Space to let

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    https://mobile.twitter.com/sabahmedd...01948743880705

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    A Kent brewery that the government proclaimed as an export champion after Brexit, is racing to find a buyer weeks after it revealed it had only one EU customer left.

    Old Dairy Brewery is teetering on the edge of administration

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    What happened in 2016 to change direction of this graph?


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    Quote Originally Posted by grunt View Post
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    What happened in 2016 to change direction of this graph?

    I know Sevco failed to win the Scottish cup final but only the worst of the worst of the Scottish media could blame Hibs for causing this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grunt View Post
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    What happened in 2016 to change direction of this graph?

    If I’d known that winning the Scottish Cup would have caused this I wouldn’t have invaded the pitch when we won.
    "...when Hibs won the Scottish Cup final and that celebration, Sunshine on Leith? I don’t think there’s a better football celebration ever in the game.”

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    If I’d known that winning the Scottish Cup would have caused this I wouldn’t have invaded the pitch when we won.
    It's all your fault.

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    Brilliant thread with a brexiteer panicking about an influx of Indians ha ha.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/Will_Tann...76693289189376


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    The Government is reportedly considering agreeing a visa free travel scheme for under-35s as part of the UK-India Trade Deal, due to be signed by Diwali on 24 Oct.

    Short thread on why we shouldn't be using trade deals to dictate migration policy

    Indian trade negotiators argue that Australia and NZ have youth mobility schemes under their deals. But India is MUCH bigger & younger than either.

    The UN estimates there were 412 million 18-34 yr-olds in India in 2021, vs 6m in Australian and 1m in NZ. It's not comparable

    The UK just took a decision to end free movement with the EU (population 446m).

    Voters might not unreasonably question whether we ended free movement with Europe to create it with India. We shouldn't forget backlash when EU8 accession led to 300k net migrants between 2004-9

    There are obviously important economic differences, which inevitably affect migration dynamics.

    In 2020, the average income/expenditure per day was $3 dollars in India, but over $40 in the UK. The incentive to move will be understandably strong

    The other issue is immigration compliance. The UK has youth mobility schemes with Aus/NZ because of a long history of compliance.

    Indian migrants have relatively high rates of overstaying, and India has historically at times resisted forced returns

    The Conservative Manifesto which every MP stood on in 2019 was explicit: "overall the numbers will come down."

    That hasn't happened yet: last year we issued 1 million visas. Its unlikely to ever happen if the price of trade is visa free immigration

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    Brilliant thread with a brexiteer panicking about an influx of Indians ha ha.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/Will_Tann...76693289189376


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    The Government is reportedly considering agreeing a visa free travel scheme for under-35s as part of the UK-India Trade Deal, due to be signed by Diwali on 24 Oct.

    Short thread on why we shouldn't be using trade deals to dictate migration policy

    Indian trade negotiators argue that Australia and NZ have youth mobility schemes under their deals. But India is MUCH bigger & younger than either.

    The UN estimates there were 412 million 18-34 yr-olds in India in 2021, vs 6m in Australian and 1m in NZ. It's not comparable

    The UK just took a decision to end free movement with the EU (population 446m).

    Voters might not unreasonably question whether we ended free movement with Europe to create it with India. We shouldn't forget backlash when EU8 accession led to 300k net migrants between 2004-9

    There are obviously important economic differences, which inevitably affect migration dynamics.

    In 2020, the average income/expenditure per day was $3 dollars in India, but over $40 in the UK. The incentive to move will be understandably strong

    The other issue is immigration compliance. The UK has youth mobility schemes with Aus/NZ because of a long history of compliance.

    Indian migrants have relatively high rates of overstaying, and India has historically at times resisted forced returns

    The Conservative Manifesto which every MP stood on in 2019 was explicit: "overall the numbers will come down."

    That hasn't happened yet: last year we issued 1 million visas. Its unlikely to ever happen if the price of trade is visa free immigration
    That should be enough to get Scottish racists switching to YES to get back in the EU.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875 View Post
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    She should know, she is one of those who has definitely out stayed her welcome.
    There is no such thing as too much yarn, just not enough time.

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    https://twitter.com/haggis_uk/status...3r9vcz_NEwwKeA

    Worst on record.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    https://twitter.com/haggis_uk/status...3r9vcz_NEwwKeA

    Worst on record.


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    It's certainly in the right thread. Truss takes a lot of the blame, but it all circles back to brexit.


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    UK economy has went from 94% of the German economy to 70% since 2016.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    UK economy has went from 94% of the German economy to 70% since 2016.


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    Plenty room to get worse imo. Nowhere near the bottom and it will really start to hit home how mad Brexit and the election of Johnson was this winter. The NHS will be devastated and public services will be destroyed. That was the plan and that was essentially what people voted for unless they are thick as mince

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    Can't believe this is from The Telegraph

    Project Fear was right all along

    Six years of policy confusion and ineptitude has brought a calamitous loss of standing
    Downbeat predictions by the Treasury and others on the economic consequences of leaving the EU, contemptuously dismissed at the time by Brexit campaigners as "Project Fear", have been on a long fuse, but they have turned out to be overwhelmingly correct, and if anything have underestimated both the calamitous loss of international standing and the scale of the damage that six years of policy confusion and ineptitude has imposed on the country.
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...r-right-along/

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    Quote Originally Posted by grunt View Post
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    Can't believe this is from The Telegraph





    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...r-right-along/
    Crowns on pint glasses though, blue passports and taken back control of our borders, so allisbarry, as they used to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grunt View Post
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    Can't believe this is from The Telegraph





    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...r-right-along/
    There is some irony in this post from your goodself though. You dismiss pretty much anything that's critical of the causes you support, exactly like the Brexiteers.

    If I posted an article from an "expert" that was negative about Scottish Independence for example you would say they are talking Scotland down or they need to believe more etc. We should listen to experts.

    You do see that don't you?

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    There is some irony in this post from your goodself though. You dismiss pretty much anything that's critical of the causes you support, exactly like the Brexiteers.
    You seem to be arguing for argument sake. Leave me alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grunt View Post
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    You seem to be arguing for argument sake. Leave me alone.
    Sure, no problem.

    We are all guilty of it in someway, we dismiss the things that tell us stuff we don't want to hear and embrace the stuff that backs up what we do want to hear.
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    The UK's recent disastrous "mini" Budget can trace its origins back to Britain's decision to leave the European Union. The economic costs of Brexit were masked by the Covid-19 pandemic and the crisis in Ukraine. But six years after the UK voted to leave, the effect has become clear. In this film, senior FT writers and British businesspeople examine how Brexit hit the UK economy, the political conspiracy of silence, and why there has not yet been a convincing case for a 'Brexit dividend'.

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    Before the Brexit referendum, does anyone recall Farage saying it was about lowering taxes, deregulation, shrinking the state, reducing employment rights etc? Me neither


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    Before the Brexit referendum, does anyone recall Farage saying it was about lowering taxes, deregulation, shrinking the state, reducing employment rights etc? Me neither


    That and keeping London away from the EU's money laundering police were about the only reasons I could make any sense of the Tories wanting out of the EU.

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    Great thread and video from the FT on the economic effects of Brexit

    https://mobile.twitter.com/Financial...36481113464832

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    The economic costs of Brexit were masked by the Covid-19 pandemic and the war in Ukraine. But six years after the UK voted to leave the EU, the Brexit effect has become clear.

    In this film, we examine how Brexit hit the UK economy https://on.ft.com/3eFPwq1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    Great thread and video from the FT on the economic effects of Brexit
    Are you ignoring me?

    https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?...=1#post7133047

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    Embedded videos don't show up on mobile hibs.net.

    But he could just be ignoring you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grunt View Post
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    Didn't know what you were talking about, then realised you can't see embedded videos on mobile style so didn't see it. Worth showing it twice though ha, incase anyone was mistaken how much a disaster it was/is

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    She should know, she is one of those who has definitely out stayed her welcome.

    and Truss has said she would like her back in the cabinet after xmas


    1. bold statement seeing as Truss quite probably will not be in a position to ask her back
    2. maybe she meant a cabinet for nawty politicians, it would need to be a rather large Cabinet

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    A celebration of Brexit benefits for travellers (msn.com)

    i didn't realise the RMT had urged it's members to leave the EU

    tw@ts

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