Iran - Protests Growing

[WhileTheChief..]

8 days of protests in Iran with people calling for regime change. Feels different and real with lots of younger women demanding change.

Hugely brave of them. Here's hoping another country can soon be free from tyranny.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-63013359

[Fuzzywuzzy]

Bit of a distraction for the Americans I suppose

[Pretty Boy]

I watched a video the other day of a guy from the Vice Squad slapping a young women. A few years ago that would have gone unchallenged. In this video a group of young people, predominantly men, chase him and set about him and despite him reaching for the pepper spray they completely overower him. I'm not condoning violence but it was satisfying to watch a bully get his comeuppance. It also suggests there is a real wind of change in the air.

One of my oldest friends is half Iranian, he lives in France but his Dad is still in Iran. The internet is being jammed so he is sharing a lot of stuff on behalf of his Dad; it's the real beauty of social media and the dark web. You just can't surpress it in the same way as the TV and print media.

[Stairway 2 7]

It's wonderful to see some of the protests led by brave powerful women. Hopefully a wind of change all be it a few millenia too late, showing you can't just murder women with impunity.

These riots seem different to the ones before. I saw a video of the largest picture of Ali Khomeini in Tehran being burnt to the ground. As someone I read said, that seems like the rubicon has been crossed

[hibsbollah]

The problem with democratic movements in countries with no history of democratic legitimacy is the despot is overthrown just for another despot to take his place, as we saw in the Arab Spring (already 10years ago!). Of course, the Iranians already had a revolution to depose their old autocratic ruler, the Shah in 1980 (79? Can’t remember), but the revolution was stolen from the progressive broadly liberal voices who started it, and was subsumed and then taken over by the islamists who are still there today. Iran really should have been the worlds first left leaning Muslim democracy. Young urban educated population. Hopefully something better will happen this time.

[Keith_M]

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The problem with democratic movements in countries with no history of democratic legitimacy is the despot is overthrown just for another despot to take his place, as we saw in the Arab Spring (already 10years ago!). Of course, the Iranians already had a revolution to depose their old autocratic ruler, the Shah in 1980 (79? Can’t remember), but the revolution was stolen from the progressive broadly liberal voices who started it, and was subsumed and then taken over by the islamists who are still there today. Iran really should have been the worlds first left leaning Muslim democracy. Young urban educated population. Hopefully something better will happen this time.

I would love to see that happening but I have this terrible feeling about what the government is going to unleash on the protesters.

This is a totalitarian state that arrests and kills anyone that disagrees with it's total hegemony.

[Rumble de Thump]

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I watched a video the other day of a guy from the Vice Squad slapping a young women. A few years ago that would have gone unchallenged. In this video a group of young people, predominantly men, chase him and set about him and despite him reaching for the pepper spray they completely overower him. I'm not condoning violence but it was satisfying to watch a bully get his comeuppance. It also suggests there is a real wind of change in the air.

One of my oldest friends is half Iranian, he lives in France but his Dad is still in Iran. The internet is being jammed so he is sharing a lot of stuff on behalf of his Dad; it's the real beauty of social media and the dark web. You just can't surpress it in the same way as the TV and print media.

He didn't slap her. He sprayed her in the face. Very unpleasant.

[hibsbollah]

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I would love to see that happening but I have this terrible feeling about what the government is going to unleash on the protesters.

This is a totalitarian state that arrests and kills anyone that disagrees with it's total hegemony.

Yes, as do 70% of us Planet Earth Humans. It seems to be an endless process of trying to retake power from those who are trying to impose their power on us. That’s real politics, more power to their elbow.

[Jamesie]

Travelled across Iran as a solo tourist in November 2012. Wonderful country with literally the most hospitable people I have ever met - falling over themselves on the basis that I’d made the effort to visit. It was almost embarrassing. - they had so little, but were determined to share it with me. The Persians are in my thoughts and prayers this evening.

[Mibbes Aye]

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The problem with democratic movements in countries with no history of democratic legitimacy is the despot is overthrown just for another despot to take his place, as we saw in the Arab Spring (already 10years ago!). Of course, the Iranians already had a revolution to depose their old autocratic ruler, the Shah in 1980 (79? Can’t remember), but the revolution was stolen from the progressive broadly liberal voices who started it, and was subsumed and then taken over by the islamists who are still there today. Iran really should have been the worlds first left leaning Muslim democracy. Young urban educated population. Hopefully something better will happen this time.

Iran had a secular socialist government in a parliamentary democracy of sorts, in the early 1950s. It was overthrown in a coup in 1953, instigated by the American and UK governments, when Iran attempted to nationalise its oil industry (at the time essentially owned by a company that bcame part of BP).

Obama publicly admitted or acknowledged US involvement when in office but I don't think there was ever a formal apology by the US.

[cabbageandribs1875]

35 have died so far

[Stairway 2 7]

50 dead now mostly women

[Keith_M]

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Iran had a secular socialist government in a parliamentary democracy of sorts, in the early 1950s. It was overthrown in a coup in 1953, instigated by the American and UK governments, when Iran attempted to nationalise its oil industry (at the time essentially owned by a company that bcame part of BP).

Obama publicly admitted or acknowledged US involvement when in office but I don't think there was ever a formal apology by the US.

Plus ça change.

[Stairway 2 7]

Brave woman, what a sin

https://mobile.twitter.com/officejjs...35982894206978

officejjsmart
Hadith Najai, who went viral (no headscarf and putting her hair up to fight) as an icon of women fighting for their rights, was shot dead last night

[Ozyhibby]

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Brave woman, what a sin

https://mobile.twitter.com/officejjs...35982894206978

officejjsmart
Hadith Najai, who went viral (no headscarf and putting her hair up to fight) as an icon of women fighting for their rights, was shot dead last night

Horrific.


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[WhileTheChief..]

Good report on Newsnight last night focussing on school girls leading the revolt!!

The Tic-Tok generation in open revolt against their supreme leader who said that it was the security forces and police who were feeling abused and sad.

Hopefully the beginning of the end of another horrific regime who makes their own citizens suffer continuously. The days of these facist regimes are coming to an end.

[hibsbollah]

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The days of these facist regimes are coming to an end.

If only that were true. Women and girls rights are routinely abused throughout the world, particularly in the Middle East. We’re hearing about Iran now because the people are fighting back but still horrendous conditions in many countries, including countries with which we have much better relations. Like Saudi Arabia, and a certain country where a certain sporting event is taking place next month. ‘Fascism’ is a hard word to define but there’s certainly more countries living under draconian rule now than at most times in the last 50 years.

[Ozyhibby]

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Good report on Newsnight last night focussing on school girls leading the revolt!!

The Tic-Tok generation in open revolt against their supreme leader who said that it was the security forces and police who were feeling abused and sad.

Hopefully the beginning of the end of another horrific regime who makes their own citizens suffer continuously. The days of these facist regimes are coming to an end.

We can but hope. Iran has a very young population which gives me a bit more hope than in Russia of them being able to revolt.


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[WhileTheChief..]

Maybe tyrannical is more apt than facist, but I don’t think we need to worry too much about the definitions.

Either way, they’re evil regimes whose days should be numbered.

When they see Putin’s corpse, they’ll be looking over their own shoulders I’d imagine.

If it can happen in Iran, it can happen in any of these countries. It would be amazing if we saw all those regimes in the Middle East come crashing down, irrespective of the UKs relations with them.

[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/jasonmbrodsky/st...SYpTHij924__4w


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[WhileTheChief..]

Riot police join with protesters against the regime and more....

https://twitter.com/dpatrikarakos/st...16102633304064

[Stairway 2 7]

Wild night in Iran. The prison the regime keeps political prisoners in is on fire. This has sparked huge protests

https://mobile.twitter.com/officejjs...08930143444992

[Ozyhibby]

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Wild night in Iran. The prison the regime keeps political prisoners in is on fire. This has sparked huge protests

https://mobile.twitter.com/officejjs...08930143444992

I can’t make out if this is the prisoners or the regime sparking this? Could be a bloodbath.


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[WhileTheChief..]

Protests getting larger and louder…

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/worl...-east-63411451

[Stairway 2 7]

Could be one of the first feminist led revolutions? Powerful scenes

https://mobile.twitter.com/BBCRosAtk...91703034204161

[Stairway 2 7]

Some place

https://mobile.twitter.com/SMohyeddi...84851484606465

Samira Mohyeddin سمیرا
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1/ Kurdish singer, Saman Yasin, has been charged with “Waging War Against God” & “Corrupting the Earth”

27 year old rapper is sentenced to be executed. In penal code of the Islamic Republic, opposing government means you’re fighting God.

#IranRevoIution #MahsaAmini
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The Kurdish rapper sang of poverty & drug addiction & his lyrics were critical of the government in #Iran. The Islamic Republic has began prosecuting protesters. A single person acts as judge, jury, and prosecutor in the cases; accused have no access to a lawyer

CNN gave a brief overview of the trials taking place & the more than 14,000 #Iranian ‘s arrested over the past 48 days of #IranProtests #IranRevoIution

The judge presiding over the trials of protesters is known as “The judge of death”

[Stairway 2 7]

The Iranian parliament has voted to execute 15,000 protesters

https://www.newsweek.com/iran-votes-...lesson-1757931

[Hibrandenburg]

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The Iranian parliament has voted to execute 15,000 protesters

https://www.newsweek.com/iran-votes-...lesson-1757931

The straw that will break the camel's neck.

[nonshinyfinish]

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The Iranian parliament has voted to execute 15,000 protesters

https://www.newsweek.com/iran-votes-...lesson-1757931

This turned out not to be true: https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-death-penalty

[Stairway 2 7]

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This turned out not to be true: https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-death-penalty

I've seen both sided of the argument the last few days and I'd say newsweek and the guardian both have a point. I don't think anyone thinks they will line up all 15,000 that have been imprisoned for protesting and hang them. It's more the fact that the parliament is recommending they get the full punishment which is death. A shocking way to think of your subjects who have a different of opinion. From the reports we're seeing it's certainly not quelling the riots