(Soon to be) Former President Donald Trump

[CropleyWasGod]

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https://twitter.com/NewYorkStateAG/s...FyT0Msi8A&s=19

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Did his bankers not get independent appraisals of the properties?

What were his auditors doing?

He/his family couldn't have done all this without the incompetence or collusion of both of the above.

[Kato]

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Initial reaction to this:-

Did his bankers not get independent appraisals of the properties?

What were his auditors doing?

He/his family couldn't have done all this without the incompetence or collusion of both of the above.

Mmm

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[Ozyhibby]

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Initial reaction to this:-

Did his bankers not get independent appraisals of the properties?

What were his auditors doing?

He/his family couldn't have done all this without the incompetence or collusion of both of the above.

Hasn’t failure with auditors been a feature of all the recent corruption scandals over the last 20 years? And failure to value assets properly was how we ended up with the sub-prime crisis?


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[Hibernia&Alba]

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Initial reaction to this:-

Did his bankers not get independent appraisals of the properties?

What were his auditors doing?

He/his family couldn't have done all this without the incompetence or collusion of both of the above.

Referred to the IRS for criminal prosecution, it's beautiful. Financial journalists have said for years he was committing fraud in relation to asset valuations, in addition to tax evasion. Then there are his separate cases - there has to be a good chance he will be prosecuted in relation to the stolen secret documents.

[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/acyn/status/1572...9vH6ha976Ti0LA

We’ll worth a listen.


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[DaveF]

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https://twitter.com/acyn/status/1572...9vH6ha976Ti0LA

We’ll worth a listen.


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There is a process but there does not have to be a process. I'm the president...blah..blah. Totally incoherent pish.

[Ozyhibby]

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There is a process but there does not have to be a process. I'm the president...blah..blah. Totally incoherent pish.

It was the bit where he claimed the FBI were searching his house looking for Hilary Clinton’s emails.


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[CyberSauzee]

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https://twitter.com/acyn/status/1572...9vH6ha976Ti0LA

We’ll worth a listen.


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I can declassify secret info by thinking it's de-classified!!!!

[Ozyhibby]

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I can declassify secret info by thinking it's de-classified!!!!

I’m just about to hang a door and I’m thinking about using the same technique. Wish me luck.


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[Moulin Yarns]

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I’m just about to hang a door and I’m thinking about using the same technique. Wish me luck.


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You will be as unhinged as the orange one 😂

[Tyler Durden]

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Initial reaction to this:-

Did his bankers not get independent appraisals of the properties?

What were his auditors doing?

He/his family couldn't have done all this without the incompetence or collusion of both of the above.

In terms of the bankers, it has been widely reported that Deutsche Bank were complicit over the years.

However in other examples it seems that normal due process has just been waived due to Trumps profile and the perception of reputational risk to not deal with him. If you look at Turnberry for example, that purchase should never have been allowed. By all accounts Trump bought it without debt funding and with no clear source of wealth evidenced. It's not his only asset where he just produced cash out of nowhere. Hence it's subsequently been the subject of proposed "Unexplained Wealth Orders" - albeit I don't think that has gotten very far.

[CropleyWasGod]

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In terms of the bankers, it has been widely reported that Deutsche Bank were complicit over the years.

However in other examples it seems that normal due process has just been waived due to Trumps profile and the perception of reputational risk to not deal with him. If you look at Turnberry for example, that purchase should never have been allowed. By all accounts Trump bought it without debt funding and with no clear source of wealth evidenced. It's not his only asset where he just produced cash out of nowhere. Hence it's subsequently been the subject of proposed "Unexplained Wealth Orders" - albeit I don't think that has gotten very far.

Thanks

I can hear the distant sound of shredders being fired up....

[Keith_M]

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Hasn’t failure with auditors been a feature of all the recent corruption scandals over the last 20 years? And failure to value assets properly was how we ended up with the sub-prime crisis?


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Ernst and Young were Wirecard A.G's auditors for years but failed to notice that the vast majority of it's 'Assets' were in fact a total fraud, with vastly inflated values that helped increase the value of the company shares,.

The collapse of Wirecard was Germany's biggest financial scandal for decades, and came about through an almost total lack of diligence on the part of their Auditors

https://www.ft.com/content/bcadbdcb-...d-1e926831e9b7.

[Oscar T Grouch]

Trumps request and installation of a special master in the case of the documents found at Maralago has royally backfired on him and his lawyers. This was triggered by the dodgy judge who gave Trump the opportunity to install a special master (a judge specifically to look at the documents found and judge what needs done with them), he submitted two candidate and the DOJ agreed with one and they were installed (Judge Dearie). This was a tactic to slow the legal process down and to shove as many spanners in the works as possible. Anyway, it turns out the Judge Dearie is a competent and able judge with knowledge of Trumps dealing with court and the legal system. He issued a case management order to tell Trump has to submit an affidavit under penalty of perjury to the court regarding his claims about the remaining documents at issue by the end of this month. Judge Dearie set an expedited timetable for completing the review of records and ordered Trum to pay a retired Judge $500 p/hour to help review records, and knowing Trumps penchant for not paying his legal advisors, has set a limit of 7 days for paying this judges fees, if he doesn't pay he will be found in contempt of court. So in short, Trumps plan to slow the process down has speeded it up and put him under real pressure.

[Keith_M]

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Trumps request and installation of a special master in the case of the documents found at Maralago has royally backfired on him and his lawyers. This was triggered by the dodgy judge who gave Trump the opportunity to install a special master (a judge specifically to look at the documents found and judge what needs done with them), he submitted two candidate and the DOJ agreed with one and they were installed (Judge Dearie). This was a tactic to slow the legal process down and to shove as many spanners in the works as possible. Anyway, it turns out the Judge Dearie is a competent and able judge with knowledge of Trumps dealing with court and the legal system. He issued a case management order to tell Trump has to submit an affidavit under penalty of perjury to the court regarding his claims about the remaining documents at issue by the end of this month. Judge Dearie set an expedited timetable for completing the review of records and ordered Trum to pay a retired Judge $500 p/hour to help review records, and knowing Trumps penchant for not paying his legal advisors, has set a limit of 7 days for paying this judges fees, if he doesn't pay he will be found in contempt of court. So in short, Trumps plan to slow the process down has speeded it up and put him under real pressure.

[cabbageandribs1875]

steve bannon has got a four month jail sentence


it would be brilliant if Trump got the same...even better a few years, that **** should be held accountable for the five deaths that day

Donald Trump formally subpoenaed by January 6 committee | Donald Trump | The Guardian

[Hibernia&Alba]

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steve bannon has got a four month jail sentence


it would be brilliant if Trump got the same...even better a few years, that **** should be held accountable for the five deaths that day

Donald Trump formally subpoenaed by January 6 committee | Donald Trump | The Guardian

I believe Trump has just been informed he will have to testify to Congress about Jan 6th 2021.

[cabbageandribs1875]

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I believe Trump has just been informed he will have to testify to Congress about Jan 6th 2021.

and he will lie through his whitened teeth, the big orange pumpkin that he is

[Lendo]

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and he will lie through his whitened teeth, the big orange pumpkin that he is

He’ll just plead the 5th throughout.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Detestable son of Detestable ex-Detestable president Trump

Donald Trump Jr condemned for ‘sick and dangerous’ post mocking Paul Pelosi’s hammer attack (msn.com)

[Oscar T Grouch]

I read today that 70% of republicans think a strong economy is more important than a functioning democracy

The problem with democracy is it is anti-capitalist, it gives a normal citizen the chance to change stuff that would work against the pursuit of profit!!

It certainly looks like this orange monster may have been the trigger that introduced the USA the the slope leading to fascism. Democracy is always going to go pop if you are not willing to accept the results of elections. Trump spread that idea through republicans like the black death.

[greenginger]

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I read today that 70% of republicans think a strong economy is more important than a functioning democracy

The problem with democracy is it is anti-capitalist, it gives a normal citizen the chance to change stuff that would work against the pursuit of profit!!

It certainly looks like this orange monster may have been the trigger that introduced the USA the the slope leading to fascism. Democracy is always going to go pop if you are not willing to accept the results of elections. Trump spread that idea through republicans like the black death.

Just like Hilary Clinton and the Democrats never accepted the election result of 2016.

Russian collusion and all that.

[Ozyhibby]

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I read today that 70% of republicans think a strong economy is more important than a functioning democracy

The problem with democracy is it is anti-capitalist, it gives a normal citizen the chance to change stuff that would work against the pursuit of profit!!

It certainly looks like this orange monster may have been the trigger that introduced the USA the the slope leading to fascism. Democracy is always going to go pop if you are not willing to accept the results of elections. Trump spread that idea through republicans like the black death.

There are plenty in Scotland who are willing to sacrifice democracy to pursue their political goals as well.


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[Mantis Toboggan]

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Just like Hilary Clinton and the Democrats never accepted the election result of 2016.

Russian collusion and all that.

I must have missed it when Clinton encouraged folk to storm the Capitol because she didn't accept the result

[Kato]

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I must have missed it when Clinton encouraged folk to storm the Capitol because she didn't accept the result

They accepted the result with the caveat that they suspected there had been interference from outside the country, which was shown to be true.

Just as it was here with Brexit.

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[greenginger]

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I must have missed it when Clinton encouraged folk to storm the Capitol because she didn't accept the result

Who said anything anything about storming the Capital . The point was the acceptance of an election result and both sides across the pond seem to have been disputing elections in recent years.

[Stairway 2 7]

There's a difference between saying Russia helped fund campaigns and used bots and the other side saying the election was actually rigged like trump does

[He's here!]

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Who said anything anything about storming the Capital . The point was the acceptance of an election result and both sides across the pond seem to have been disputing elections in recent years.

I'm surprised Clinton had anything left to give after the humiliation of actually losing to Trump. I hadn't realised she was so unpopular with so many Americans and I recall expecting her to win comfortably. She must have felt like going into hiding.

[Mantis Toboggan]

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Who said anything anything about storming the Capital . The point was the acceptance of an election result and both sides across the pond seem to have been disputing elections in recent years.

There is no comparison between the actions of the two sides and you know it

[grunt]

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The point was the acceptance of an election result and both sides across the pond seem to have been disputing elections in recent years.

This is a somewhat false equivalence, isn't it?