SNP are lying b******s as well !

[ronaldo7]

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Seemed a pretty well thought out response.

J

He used a real Nic name.

That's progress. 👍

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https://www.conter.scot/2022/8/5/how...te-profiteers/

How SNP Sold Scotland to Corporate Profiteers

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

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It was definitely to focus on problem drinkers, large section of the material was about cheap high alcohol drink. If it didn't reduce harmful drinking but really reduced overall drinking that would be fine by me. But if its at the cost of lives in people switching to benzos it won't be.

We need a team monitoring it and particularly one who will admit if something doesn't work. Teen drinking has been plummeting for the last 20 years so things will get better. Contrary to belief our drinking is pretty average in European levels also.

Thing with that is though - and I know this as a guy who drinks the stuff and would happily pay extra for it when I fancy it - buckfast didn’t increase in price. It was already priced higher than the minimum pricing per unit of alcohol. I can’t speak on other cheaper alcoholic brands that are associated with problem drinking, such as MD 20/20 and Dragon Soop etc but surely if you want to “target” problem drinkers, these are the types of drinks that should’ve been increasing in price. I’m sure the cheap, high strength lagers and ciders probably increased in price, but problem drinkers who used to like the odd frosty jacks will have just moved onto Buckfast, Eldorado, MD etc. I’m not saying the policy is bad, it was poorly thought out and executed though.


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https://www.conter.scot/2022/8/5/how...te-profiteers/

How SNP Sold Scotland to Corporate Profiteers

No wonder the socialists aren't in Government anywhere.

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Shirley Sturgeon must resign now that Ferrier has pleaded guilty?

[Ozyhibby]

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Shirley Sturgeon must resign now that Ferrier has pleaded guilty?

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[Moulin Yarns]

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Shirley Sturgeon must resign now that Ferrier has pleaded guilty?

Why? Surely ferrier is the only one who has to resign.

Edit: just realised that it was irony 😂

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Has Ferrier changed her plea? I seem to recall she planned to plead not guilty (though what her defence would have been who knows).

Does the guilty plea impact on her ability to sit tight as an MP until 2024/25?

[marinello59]

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Has Ferrier changed her plea? I seem to recall she planned to plead not guilty (though what her defence would have been who knows).

Does the guilty plea impact on her ability to sit tight as an MP until 2024/25?

Unless she receives a prison sentence of more than a year she is free to stay in position and draw her salary. Hopefully she spends that time representing her constituents to the best of her abilities.
A prison sentence of less than a year may allow her constituents to take action to remove her.

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Unless she receives a prison sentence of more than a year she is free to stay in position and draw her salary. Hopefully she spends that time representing her constituents to the best of her abilities.
A prison sentence of less than a year may allow her constituents to take action to remove her.

Or the house could suspend her for 10 days which allows for recall.


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Or the house could suspend her for 10 days which allows for recall.


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Unless she gets a custodial ( or suspended) sentence I’m not so sure the house can do anything. Bottom line is she should do the right thing.
On a human level she has already paid a terrible price in terms of her reputation for this. The hounding of her by the press when it broke would be hard for any of us to handle. And as a 60 something woman giving up her employment at her stage of life is a much greater sacrifice to make.

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I haven't been paying attention to this story.

But does it come down to the fact that she travelled to Westminster when she was ill because Rees-Mogg wouldn't allow the House of Commons to sit remotely?

It seems to me she is paying a huge price - admittedly she was wrong to travel - but I don't anywhere see any discussion about why Parliament couldn't have continued to operate remotely?

Maybe I'm wrong.

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I haven't been paying attention to this story.

But does it come down to the fact that she travelled to Westminster when she was ill because Rees-Mogg wouldn't allow the House of Commons to sit remotely?

It seems to me she is paying a huge price - admittedly she was wrong to travel - but I don't anywhere see any discussion about why Parliament couldn't have continued to operate remotely?

Maybe I'm wrong.

?? She travelled to Scotland from Westminster after getting her positive result. Its inexcusable. Us plebs had to isolate sometimes in a room seperated away from our family

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I haven't been paying attention to this story.

But does it come down to the fact that she travelled to Westminster when she was ill because Rees-Mogg wouldn't allow the House of Commons to sit remotely?

It seems to me she is paying a huge price - admittedly she was wrong to travel - but I don't anywhere see any discussion about why Parliament couldn't have continued to operate remotely?

Maybe I'm wrong.

She knew that she was positive and still continued to travel on public transport…

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?? She travelled to Scotland from Westminster after getting her positive result. Its inexcusable. Us plebs had to isolate sometimes in a room seperated away from our family

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She knew that she was positive and still continued to travel on public transport…

Can either of you read?

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... she was wrong to travel ...

[Kato]

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Unless she gets a custodial ( or suspended) sentence I’m not so sure the house can do anything. Bottom line is she should do the right thing.
On a human level she has already paid a terrible price in terms of her reputation for this. The hounding of her by the press when it broke would be hard for any of us to handle. And as a 60 something woman giving up her employment at her stage of life is a much greater sacrifice to make.

Does her reputation involve doing the right thing at any time in the past? Seems like a bare faced grifter to me.

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Can either of you read?

Your trying to defend her by the fact her work was still on like a big % of the country. Politicians like all others didn't have to go to work if they were positive. She went to the gym too after feeling unwell and getting a test, is that the tories fault too. Clutching at straws

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Your trying to defend her by the fact her work was still on like a big % of the country. Politicians like all others didn't have to go to work if they were positive. She went to the gym too after feeling unwell and getting a test, is that the tories fault too. Clutching at straws

I'm not clutching at straws! I'm not trying to exonerate her. I'm simply asking whether the fact that the HoC would not allow remote working was a factor in her behaviour. I always thought it daft that JRM would not allow a virtual sitting of Parliament, and I always thought it would adversely affect those who had to travel distances - e.g. all the Scottish MPs - of whichever party. If she'd been WFH this wouldn't have happened.

Why is it that when someone posts a simple comment on here they get jumped on from a great height by all and sundry?

[hibsbollah]

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Why is it that when someone posts a simple comment on here they get jumped on from a great height by all and sundry?

I know what you mean. There is nothing in your post that suggests you think she was anything else but wrong. In fact, you might feel stronger about it than either of the other two posters. You're just broadening the discussion to contextualise. Cue finger wagging.

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I haven't been paying attention to this story.

But does it come down to the fact that she travelled to Westminster when she was ill because Rees-Mogg wouldn't allow the House of Commons to sit remotely?

It seems to me she is paying a huge price - admittedly she was wrong to travel - but I don't anywhere see any discussion about why Parliament couldn't have continued to operate remotely?

Maybe I'm wrong.

She was just trying to keep her expenses down and not wanting to claim 14 nights of dinner, bed and breakfast in a London hotel. 🤔😉

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I'm not clutching at straws! I'm not trying to exonerate her. I'm simply asking whether the fact that the HoC would not allow remote working was a factor in her behaviour. I always thought it daft that JRM would not allow a virtual sitting of Parliament, and I always thought it would adversely affect those who had to travel distances - e.g. all the Scottish MPs - of whichever party. If she'd been WFH this wouldn't have happened.

Why is it that when someone posts a simple comment on here they get jumped on from a great height by all and sundry?

Because it doesn't make sense. Look at the Cummings threads everyone bashed him rightly with zero defence or excuses.

Before she travelled to England she felt ill took a test in Scotland, she then went to the gym, hair salon and shops whilst waiting for her results. Take out the travel completely and she still behaved disgustingly.

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When you see the moving about she done, she has to go. It is indefensible. She should resign although I can understand why she won’t. The sums of money involved are huge and it will be her last job likely.
Hopefully there is a way she can be removed from post.


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Mixed bag on homelessness

https://mobile.twitter.com/ginadavid...91380344938497

ginadavidsonlbc
NEW: statistics on homelessness in Scotland just out
⬆️No of children in temp accom up by 17% to 8,635 in March from 7,385 in March 2021
⬆️People becoming homeless from private rent sector 15%, was 11% in 2020-21
⬇️ 2,129 households rough sleeping during the previous 3 months

⬇️ 1,304 rough sleeping the night before the application. Both of these are the lowest in the time series (since 2002-03)
➡️ Housing minister Shona Robison says rough sleeping stats are “encouraging” but is “deeply concerned” at the rise in children in temporary accommodation

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Children in temporary accommodation
Record high in 2022 at 8,635
More than doubled (+108%) since 2014 of 4,155

[He's here!]

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I haven't been paying attention to this story.

But does it come down to the fact that she travelled to Westminster when she was ill because Rees-Mogg wouldn't allow the House of Commons to sit remotely?

It seems to me she is paying a huge price - admittedly she was wrong to travel - but I don't anywhere see any discussion about why Parliament couldn't have continued to operate remotely?

Maybe I'm wrong.

Rees-Mogg's fault :-D

I do love the way folk will try to find ways to blame anything and everything on the Tories...

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I know what you mean. There is nothing in your post that suggests you think she was anything else but wrong. In fact, you might feel stronger about it than either of the other two posters. You're just broadening the discussion to contextualise. Cue finger wagging.

Totally agree. The admins were quick to jump to John/James when he complained about similar issues. The posters who have taken gru ta post completely the wrong way are out of order IMO.

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Does her reputation involve doing the right thing at any time in the past? Seems like a bare faced grifter to me.

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She was wrong in what she did, I am not defending that. That doesn’t mean I can’t show some empathy, we aren’t talking about somebody evil here. The world must seem like an exceedingly lonely place for this woman right now. .

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Rees-Mogg's fault :-D

I do love the way folk will try to find ways to blame anything and everything on the Tories...

You can’t say that …out of order and jumping from a great height …

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Mixed bag on homelessness

https://mobile.twitter.com/ginadavid...91380344938497

ginadavidsonlbc
NEW: statistics on homelessness in Scotland just out
⬆️No of children in temp accom up by 17% to 8,635 in March from 7,385 in March 2021
⬆️People becoming homeless from private rent sector 15%, was 11% in 2020-21
⬇️ 2,129 households rough sleeping during the previous 3 months

⬇️ 1,304 rough sleeping the night before the application. Both of these are the lowest in the time series (since 2002-03)
➡️ Housing minister Shona Robison says rough sleeping stats are “encouraging” but is “deeply concerned” at the rise in children in temporary accommodation

peploewollen
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Children in temporary accommodation
Record high in 2022 at 8,635
More than doubled (+108%) since 2014 of 4,155

Context

https://www.bigissue.com/news/housin...u-do-about-it/

also

https://www.bigissue.com/news/housin...ld-hard-facts/

[Ozyhibby]

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Mixed bag on homelessness

https://mobile.twitter.com/ginadavid...91380344938497

ginadavidsonlbc
NEW: statistics on homelessness in Scotland just out
No of children in temp accom up by 17% to 8,635 in March from 7,385 in March 2021
People becoming homeless from private rent sector 15%, was 11% in 2020-21
2,129 households rough sleeping during the previous 3 months

1,304 rough sleeping the night before the application. Both of these are the lowest in the time series (since 2002-03)
Housing minister Shona Robison says rough sleeping stats are “encouraging” but is “deeply concerned” at the rise in children in temporary accommodation

peploewollen
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Children in temporary accommodation
Record high in 2022 at 8,635
More than doubled (+108%) since 2014 of 4,155

I fear those statistics will get a lot worse over the next couple of years. And I won’t be blaming the SNP for it.


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I fear those statistics will get a lot worse over the next couple of years. And I won’t be blaming the SNP for it.


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For once we agree…down to Tory mismanagement