Tories are still lying *******s

[Bostonhibby]

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A link to the text of Our Leader’s Speech yesterday at the Farnborough air show. All important issues covered I think.

https://www.gov.uk/government/speech...w-18-july-2022

Any links to the minutes of his meetings with the ledbedev's and assorted Russians in Italy?

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[GlesgaeHibby]

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Top issue:

4% climate change
49% immigration

The nasty party never changes.

Immigration is important. Particularly in Scotland. Our ageing population is due to start falling in a few years, and we need to be encouraging people to migrate to Scotland.

Sadly Tory supporters would rather demonise folk risking their life to get to the UK.

[Northernhibee]

Tugendhat is the only one in the race that I think may have worried the opposition parties if there was another general election. The rest of them are much of a muchness and representative of what the Tory party has become.

[Kato]

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Immigration is important. Particularly in Scotland. Our ageing population is due to start falling in a few years, and we need to be encouraging people to migrate to Scotland.

Sadly Tory supporters would rather demonise folk risking their life to get to the UK.

Those percentages show up the group think which I personally just can't get my head around. "Weirdos" is all I can think.

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[Just_Jimmy]

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Tugendhat is the only one in the race that I think may have worried the opposition parties if there was another general election. The rest of them are much of a muchness and representative of what the Tory party has become.

Any one of them will win an election. Its not about politics anymore.

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[Ozyhibby]

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Any one of them will win an election. Its not about politics anymore.

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Absolutely. It wasn’t what the Tories were doing that the English public tired of, it was his personality. They are totally fine with people trafficking to Rwanda, tax cuts for the rich and generally putting up barriers with the rest of the world. They just got tired of being lied to. Even the most rabid fanatics can only take so much of that.
Starmer has no chance against Sunak, Mordaunt or Truss.


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[Kato]

UK stuck down a Brexit rabbit hole.


https://www.newstatesman.com/comment...eady-nightmare

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[Bostonhibby]

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UK stuck down a Brexit rabbit hole.


https://www.newstatesman.com/comment...eady-nightmare

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Aye, but blue passports, crowns on our pint glasses, no more straight cucumbers etc.

And that's only the beginning of the brexit benefits Rees Mogg is compiling a list of.

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[Ozyhibby]

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Aye, but blue passports, crowns on our pint glasses, no more straight cucumbers etc.

And that's only the beginning of the brexit benefits Rees Mogg is compiling a list of.

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Eh, about those blue passports…..


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[Kato]

Boris might be PM after election.

https://twitter.com/christopherhope/...EupvVQHIQ&s=19

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[lapsedhibee]

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Boris might be PM after election.

https://twitter.com/christopherhope/...EupvVQHIQ&s=19

Good idea. That's how they ran Wimbledon in the early days - all challengers had a competition to win the right to take on the incumbent in a 'final'. Square go between Truss and Johnson? Wouldn't be any more absurd than Truss becoming PM anyway.

[Moulin Yarns]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...itics-62223132

Anything to combat the cost of living. How can he remain neutral in this Saturday?

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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2126416.html

Government officials told Priti Patel not to do asylum deal with Rwanda, court hears

[Moulin Yarns]

Bad Enoch loses the next round, Sunak, maurdant and truss left for tomorrow

[Ozyhibby]

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Bad Enoch loses the next round, Sunak, maurdant and truss left for tomorrow

Truss, Mordaunt in the final two?


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[grunt]

If you missed the Conservative #LeadershipDebate, it went something like this

https://twitter.com/Darren_Dutton/st...cTFgpFE9-aROeA

[Hibernia&Alba]

Toxic Bad-Enoch out, which is good. She was always angling for a top job in the new Cabinet, rather than winning the leadership, and she's probably achieved that now. It's going to be Sunak v Mordaunt/Truss, and either of the women would probably beat Sunak amongst the party members.

[hibsbollah]

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Truss, Mordaunt in the final two?


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I dont think thats possible without defections from the Sunak camp, which seems unlikely at this stage. Mordaunt is 26 behind Sunak, Truss is 32 behind Sunak. Badenoch's 59 supporters will have to choose between the remaining 3, most wont go to Sunak, but it would have to be all 59 going exactly 26-32 to each of the other two candidates which would force a virtual dead heat between the 3, with the 1 remaining vote deciding the winner between all three! Not going to happen.

Its Sunak in, against either Mordor or Truss, who will THEN become the favourite in front of the membership.

[Moulin Yarns]

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I dont think thats possible without defections from the Sunak camp, which seems unlikely at this stage. Mordaunt is 26 behind Sunak, Truss is 32 behind Sunak. Badenoch's 59 supporters will have to choose between the remaining 3, most wont go to Sunak, but it would have to be all 59 going exactly 26-32 to each of the other two candidates which would force a virtual dead heat between the 3, with the 1 remaining vote deciding the winner between all three! Not going to happen.

Its Sunak in, against either Mordor or Truss, who will THEN become the favourite in front of the membership.

Remember that maurdant has lost the support of the mp who was away working in Moldova and Ukraine because he wasn't there for the confidence vote 🙄

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Remember that maurdant has lost the support of the mp who was away working in Moldova and Ukraine because he wasn't there for the confidence vote 🙄

Ellwood? Thats true. But that means 58 instead of 59, so the scenario of the exact spread to take the two girls through at the expense of Sunak is no more likely. It does raise the fantastic possibility of a 3 way dead heat if my maths is correct, which would be funny. Coin toss?

[Stairway 2 7]

Badenochs supporters will mostly go to truss. Should be truss Sunak next round, with truss our new fuhrer

[Ozyhibby]

Sunak supporters might be getting a little nervous at all the polls which show him losing among the members whoever he is up against? Also, the fact that he hasn’t got it over the line among mp’s so far might be giving cause for concern?
Do some jump ship to Mordaunt to stop Truss? Maybe some jump the other way to stop Mordaunt?
I would think there must be some nervousness among their support over his inability to get this over the line and his general unpopularity among members.
Maybe I’m over thinking it.


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[Stairway 2 7]

Skybet next pm

Truss 1/1
Sunak 11/8
Mordaunt 7/1

Truss would be thoroughly depressing

[Moulin Yarns]

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Skybet next pm

Truss 1/1
Sunak 11/8
Mordaunt 7/1

Truss would be thoroughly depressing

Might be what is needed to get independence over the line though? Thatcher Mark 2!!

[Northernhibee]

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Skybet next pm

Truss 1/1
Sunak 11/8
Mordaunt 7/1

Truss would be thoroughly depressing

None of them are a feel good uplifting hit.

[LewysGot2]

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Truss, Mordaunt in the final two?


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Unlikely. Sunak v Truss is more like it as Badenoch votes likely to go to her.

Sunak only 2 votes shy of automatic final spot

[hibsbollah]

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Unlikely. Sunak v Truss is more like it as Badenoch votes likely to go to her.

Sunak only 2 votes shy of automatic final spot

Sunak two up at Tynie. But wait...

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This will surely get those Tory members throbbing with excitement ...

[Moulin Yarns]

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Sunak two up at Tynie. But wait...

Apparently, in previous contests who led from the beginning has never won. Get your well earned on truss.