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    Quote Originally Posted by grunt View Post
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    He got in on 43% of the votes, and just 25% of the votes in Scotland. Hardly "overwhelmingly behind him".

    They had an 80+ seat majority in the commons. That’s a convincing win.


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    I have to say that I thought that Starmer got it absolutely spot on, bang on the button at PMQs. Brilliant from him.


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    I have to say that I thought that Starmer got it absolutely spot on, bang on the button at PMQs. Brilliant from him.
    Because he had him on trial. He's a superb barrister. He's a crap politician.

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    Boris looking at the live amount of MPs he's still got on side


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    Quote Originally Posted by WhileTheChief.. View Post
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    They had an 80+ seat majority in the commons. That’s a convincing win.
    But that's not what you said. You said he had "the country overwhelmingly behind him". As you well know, the FPTP system does not reflect the popular vote.

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    MP Gary Sambrook sums it up perfectly for me

    'The prime minister... always tries to blame other people for mistakes... nothing left for him to do other than to take responsibility and resign.'


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    Quote Originally Posted by grunt View Post
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    But that's not what you said. You said he had "the country overwhelmingly behind him". As you well know, the FPTP system does not reflect the popular vote.
    Point still stands.

    He was hugely popular when first elected. He still is to a certain degree, with the public.

    It’s why Labour and you guys are so pleased to see the back of him. He was likely to lead the Conservatives to another landslide and Starmer wouldn’t stand a chance against him.

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    https://twitter.com/stvnews/status/1...BupAn8gnMMUxWQ

    Douglas Ross has spoken and he should definitely go now. Maybe.
    Can’t help but think this is a betrayal of the people of Ukraine by Ross given he thinks Johnson is the only person who can help them?


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    His Russian paymasters are clearly forcing him to stay in the job no matter what.

    They must have some amount of dirt on him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroxburnHibee View Post
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    His Russian paymasters are clearly forcing him to stay in the job no matter what.

    They must have some amount of dirt on him.
    It's incredible. I'd like to say that I was beginning to feel sorry for him, but that would be a lie. I hope it's as distressing and humiliating for him as it's possible for it to be.


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    Point still stands.

    He was hugely popular when first elected. He still is to a certain degree, with the public.

    It’s why Labour and you guys are so pleased to see the back of him. He was likely to lead the Conservatives to another landslide and Starmer wouldn’t stand a chance against him.
    Actually, precisely the opposite. He's probably the one Tory Starmer would be likely to beat now.

    Both Indy and getting rid of the Tories would be much better served by keeping Johnson on life support but I personally can't stand him being there any longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhileTheChief.. View Post
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    Point still stands.
    No it doesn't.

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    He was hugely popular when first elected. He still is to a certain degree, with the public.
    In Scotland? 83% dissatisfied with him.



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    It’s why Labour and you guys are so pleased to see the back of him. He was likely to lead the Conservatives to another landslide and Starmer wouldn’t stand a chance against him.
    Yes, that's why we want him gone. LOL. Nothing to do with his completely disastrous handling of Brexit, COVID and the economy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhileTheChief.. View Post
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    Point still stands.

    He was hugely popular when first elected. He still is to a certain degree, with the public.

    It’s why Labour and you guys are so pleased to see the back of him. He was likely to lead the Conservatives to another landslide and Starmer wouldn’t stand a chance against him.
    Recent projections had the Tories losing over 100 seats, no way was Boris going to be able to turn that around into a landslide

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    I can't even begin to think how to respond to this, other than to say I'm flabbergasted.
    Yes truly mind boggling the support he still has amongst many. I can't even begin to respond to this one 🥴

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens View Post
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    Actually, precisely the opposite. He's probably the one Tory Starmer would be likely to beat now.

    Both Indy and getting rid of the Tories would be much better served by keeping Johnson on life support but I personally can't stand him being there any longer.
    Nah.

    Labour know they can’t beat Boris.

    Check the glee on their faces just now, they can’t believe their luck.

    They don’t stand a chance against him and are 100% reliant on him being forced out.

    I know I can’t prove this, but I still think he is popular through the country. It’s only the media that’s really turned against him.

    It’s not like any of you guys ever liked him so it doesn’t really matter what he does.

    If there was a general election tomorrow, with Boris at the helm, he’d still be PM on Thursday.

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    Wonder if he's thinking of dissolving parliament soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diclonius View Post
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    Wonder if he's thinking of dissolving parliament soon.
    Dissolve it forever?


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    Will be sorry to see Boris go but it’s inevitable now.
    I hope the fat lying prick stays. He's the best weapon the independence movement have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhileTheChief.. View Post
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    I know I can’t prove this, but I still think he is popular through the country. It’s only the media that’s really turned against him.
    There's a reason you can't prove it ...

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    Nah.

    Labour know they can’t beat Boris.

    Check the glee on their faces just now, they can’t believe their luck.

    They don’t stand a chance against him and are 100% reliant on him being forced out.

    I know I can’t prove this, but I still think he is popular through the country. It’s only the media that’s really turned against him.

    It’s not like any of you guys ever liked him so it doesn’t really matter what he does.

    If there was a general election tomorrow, with Boris at the helm, he’d still be PM on Thursday.
    This couldn't be further from the truth. The Conservative party have finally realised he's now a liability. They only win the next GE without him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldEast View Post
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    I hope the fat lying prick stays. He's the best weapon the independence movement have.
    I always think that is overstated anyway but although I want Indy I don’t wish ill on the country just to achieve it. He needs to go.
    The Indy case is strong enough on its own, no matter who is in charge in London.


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    Andrew Bowie comes out against Johnson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhileTheChief.. View Post
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    Nah.

    Labour know they can’t beat Boris.

    Check the glee on their faces just now, they can’t believe their luck.

    They don’t stand a chance against him and are 100% reliant on him being forced out.

    I know I can’t prove this, but I still think he is popular through the country. It’s only the media that’s really turned against him.

    It’s not like any of you guys ever liked him so it doesn’t really matter what he does.

    If there was a general election tomorrow, with Boris at the helm, he’d still be PM on Thursday.
    Can't agree with any of this, really.

    He got elected on the back of the Brexit ticket and that led to him having a handsome majority.

    The circumstances leading into the next election would be VERY different.

    Even taking certain circumstances into account that weren't necessarily his fault - covid, then what looks like being a subsequent global financial crisis will have meant a very difficult few years for people whilst he has been in charge.

    I think his departure would be a godsend to the Tories, although it might be worth holding onto him to soak up a bit of grief whilst we go through the next spell of financial turmoil before appointing someone new in time for a "fresh approach" to the next election.

    He's toxic I'm afraid, and he's being saved to an extent by the opposition being as pish as they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    I always think that is overstated anyway but although I want Indy I don’t wish ill on the country just to achieve it. He needs to go.
    The Indy case is strong enough on its own, no matter who is in charge in London.


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    Definitely disagree. If there is a GE before the referendum I think a decent number of Scottish Labour voters would give them a chance in power. If another tory victory after how bad they have been, they could say enough of this.

    Boris is best chance of a Labour and Indy win. But you'd be morally bankrupt if you wanted the idiot in charge for they reasons.

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    Michael Gove has told Boris Johnson he must go

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    Definitely disagree. If there is a GE before the referendum I think a decent number of Scottish Labour voters would give them a chance in power. If another tory victory after how bad they have been, they could say enough of this.

    Boris is best chance of a Labour and Indy win. But you'd be morally bankrupt if you wanted the idiot in charge for they reasons.
    There hasn’t been much evidence of Scottish voters looking towards Labour?


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