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    This is quite the surprise.


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    Hospital's are the new Garden Bridges for Bozo, but you'd think that with all those £350m a week payments he promised to the NHS as Brexit dividends all those years ago he could have managed to "knock up" at least a couple of hospitals.

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    This is quite the surprise.


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    There literally are no 40 new hospitals. Even the Audit office is saying as much. It shows how audacious they are that they can continue to lie and lie and lie, and the only time anyone acts is when an opposition MP calls them out for lying and that right minded person is ejected from the House of Commons as a result

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    Nobody real picking up on the pincher stuff on this thread….funny how the tories always have selective language, but the more you pick away at it the more it unravels. Turns out now that Bojo was aware of claims against Pincher when he appointed him in February.

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    This is quite the surprise.


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    .see - one new nuclear power station per year.

    The status quo means gaslighting the population so they don't know what's true and what isn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stokesmessiah View Post
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    Nobody real picking up on the pincher stuff on this thread….funny how the tories always have selective language, but the more you pick away at it the more it unravels. Turns out now that Bojo was aware of claims against Pincher when he appointed him in February.
    Couldn't he say Mr Pinchy was in charge of building 40 hospitals but was too busy being blootered and touching gentlemen's parts to actually deliver?

    Pretty sure your average Bozo worshipper will see that as perfectly acceptable and want to move onto the next car crash / grope etc...

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    Very interesting that things like #DurhamPartyGate and #Beergate have been trending on Twitter all day, very much looks like bot accounts trying to distract from all the latest scandals.


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    https://twitter.com/SusanChubb1/stat...d1gwpQdlg&s=19

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    This is quite the surprise.


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    Yes, just like the 200,000 new starter homes per year promised in the last Tory manifesto. Number built for far - zero, nil, zilch, nada.
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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-62040915

    He knew all along. To the surprise of nobody at all.

    Party of pervs and predators.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba View Post
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    Yes, just like the 200,000 new starter homes per year promised in the last Tory manifesto. Number built for far - zero, nil, zilch, nada.
    Their manifesto is a poor second place to the actual agenda. Plenty time for tinkering with rights laws, brexit protocol and employment law.

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    BREAKING - Dominic Raab tells Times Radio he dealt with a formal complaint about Pincher and the Chief Whip and even the head of the department were involved.

    He adds he didn't know what Boris Johnson knew of it.

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    This sort of blows No10’s version out of the water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scorrie View Post
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    This sort of blows No10’s version out of the water.
    Everyone knows they are always lying all of the time. Doesn’t seem to make any difference though.


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    Everyone knows they are always lying all of the time. Doesn’t seem to make any difference though.


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    Every time you think "this surely must be the end of the line", you're proven wrong.


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    https://www.itv.com/news/2022-07-05/...ent-in-tatters


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    There has to be a "straw that broke the camel's back" moment though and this will be doing them absolutely no favours at all.

    I don't think the public's patience is inexhaustible (even though it does seem to stretch a fair distance).

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    https://twitter.com/bbcr4today/statu...NnfciX7qOsnVfw

    Unbelievable.


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    "Beginning of the End" #33161361896

    Nothing will get rid of him. He will go when he loses an election or dies. He is showing up the office of PM for what it is: unchecked.

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    Former Tory MP, Matthew Parris in typically whiny but in this case accurate form in the Spectator. The bit in bold is as concise a summary of Johnson as I've seen.

    ‘Steady on, old chap. You’re a bit hard on the boy.’ The arm around my shoulder was that of Boris Johnson’s father, Stanley. I remember where we were standing – it was outside the entrance to the Birmingham International Convention Centre – and I remember the occasion: a Conservative party conference. But which one? All I can say is that this was a long time ago. It was after Johnson minor had become Mayor of London – he was speaking at that conference – and it must have been after (and probably responding to) a column I wrote in the Times more than six years ago: ‘Tories have got to end their affair with Boris.’

    I’m proud of that column – seeing it no doubt conceitedly as a significant piece of journalism amid a waste of routine other stuff in the 6,000-odd articles I’ve written in my career as a columnist. It caused something of a flutter at the time, with the Guardian quoting the paragraph I now quote here:

    ‘Somebody has to call a halt to the gathering pretence that if only you’re sufficiently comical in politics you can laugh everything off. Somebody has to remind us that it’s not enough for those who seek to govern us simply to be: they must do. Incompetence is not funny. Policy vacuum is not funny. Administrative sloth is not funny. Breaking promises is not funny. A careless disregard for the truth is not funny. Advising old mates planning to beat somebody up is not funny. Abortions and gagging orders are not funny. Creeping ambition in a jester’s cap is not funny. Vacuity posing as merriment, cynicism posing as savviness, a wink and smile covering for betrayal… these things are not funny.’

    Though I was 64 at the time, the outburst had a somewhat adolescent quality: a kind of wide-eyed youthful shock at the sheer wickedness of the world. And as I went on to say, I felt uncomfortable about attacking my former Spectator editor in this way: ‘a fellow columnist… an essentially liberal-minded fellow Tory, a wonderful entertainer, and a man who has never been anything but friendly towards me.’

    I did feel uncomfortable. From the columnist’s point of view, Johnson had been the perfect editor, often absent, even when present disinclined to interfere, and happy to let a thousand flowers bloom, plus a fair quotient of weeds too. His deputy at the time was an under-sung hero, Stuart Reid, a kind, scholarly and careful man, and an unobtrusively deft editor with a good eye for quality – besides being a patient clearer-up of his boss’s messes. So whenever anyone starts telling you about Johnson’s glorious reign at The Spectator, spare a thought for the man who made it possible. Indeed, whenever anyone starts telling you about any significant achievement in our Prime Minister’s career, spare a thought for the somebody-else who made it possible.

    Stuart at least survived in one piece this chapter in both their lives. A notable feature of the Johnson journey so far has been the bodies left in ditches along his way. As with a vampire’s victims, they have this in common: their lives got caught up for a while with his, they fell, and there is no obvious sign of attack or brutality. With Johnson, even the bite marks are invisible after the kiss.

    A notable feature of the Johnson journey so far has been the bodies left in ditches along his way
    Leaving his personal life aside (I confess to a sneaking regard for Carrie Johnson, the only lover so far to have cornered this rascal), look at the professional engagements: senior civil servants, chief whips, private secretaries, ethics advisers… Owen Paterson and Rishi Sunak are only two of the more recent casualties. So many damaged men and women. When Johnson is finally driven from the field, someone is going to have to come in and bayonet the wounded. What hope Priti, Jacob, Nadine, Grant, Suella, Anne-Marie?

    But there I go again, beginning to rant. My life too has been marked indelibly by this destructive force with his undoubted streak of a music-hall genius. Luckily I never wanted an honour, but it would have been pleasant to jog into this last lap of my own career before retirement with a reputation for balance, geniality, fair-mindedness and gentle humour. It was almost within my grasp. There was even an outside chance of becoming a sort of C-list national treasure de nos jours, maybe a notch or two down from Kate Adie, Bernard Levin or Alan Coren. Gone, all gone. I’ve turned into a mini-me Captain Ahab, jaw set, obsessively in pursuit of his own Moby Dick: Moby Johnson, the great white sperm whale. It’s not a good look, I freely confess it. Gentle humour goes out of the window as my readers groan: ‘Oh, not another thrust at Boris by this embittered old journalist – and Matthew used to be such fun! Why can’t he move on?’

    Ah me. But in for a penny, in for a pound. Brace yourself for a little flight of pomposity. I know this sounds sanctimonious, but I truly believe that the present Prime Minister has stained his country in the eyes not only of the world, but of its own citizens. We have lost confidence in the essential propriety of democratic politics, we’ve started telling ourselves that they’re all like that: that politicians as a breed are mendacious, insincere and shallowly ambitious; and our faith even in the rule of law has been shaken. One of our two great political parties has been poisoned, mutilated and defaced.

    This week the Conservative party, of which, for all its terrible faults, it was once possible to feel proud, nearly shook the incubus off its back; and before too long it will succeed. But the repair of the Tories’ own self-belief and reputation will be the work of a decade or more.

    Johnson is routinely accused of having achieved nothing. Not so. He may not have entered politics to make a difference, but he has made a signal difference. Single--handedly he has blighted his party and disfigured the politics of a whole great nation. And I told you so: six years ago.

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    Leaving aside the issue of whether the circus clown can hang on, its the whole big top that's rotten to the core. We actually have the unions desperately contacting the Speaker saying 1,000 workers in the HoC deal with regular sexual harassment, and its systematic and expected.

    Kind of an extension of pre victorian times, when the aristocrat (or laird up here) saw it as part of his ownership rights to have a bit of a ride of his female staff (or male if that was his taste) anytime he liked. Thats what the class system does, and theres no higher representation of it than the HoC.

    Parris gets a lot right in that column, but as a member of the ruling class himself he just doesnt get that element of it.

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    https://twitter.com/bbcnewsnight/sta...pUrXcLsn3UTyBw

    Ben Wallace showing he’s just as bad as the rest of them.


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    Latest govt arsewipe now saying that our dear leader forgot about being told that Pincher was a sex pest. I mean, it's trivial stuff like that which is easily forgotten right enough...

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    Looks like it's Rwanda again then, whilst Raab does the rabbit in the headlights stuff.

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    Latest govt arsewipe now saying that our dear leader forgot about being told that Pincher was a sex pest. I mean, it's trivial stuff like that which is easily forgotten right enough...
    Lol, it's easily done.

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    Nicola Sturgeon has said she "forgot" about a meeting in which she believes she was told about harassment complaints against Alex Salmond.
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    Lol, it's easily done.

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    Nicola Sturgeon has said she "forgot" about a meeting in which she believes she was told about harassment complaints against Alex Salmond.
    Not true.


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    Lol, it's easily done.

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    Nicola Sturgeon has said she "forgot" about a meeting in which she believes she was told about harassment complaints against Alex Salmond.
    Desperate stuff.

    I don't think it would be unreasonable for her to forget specifically which meeting she first heard of any allegations.

    It would be entirely unreasonable for her to pretend never to have heard of any allegations.


    FWIW I think there's an awful lot of room for improvement regarding the way that the SNP deal with such situations, and I really wish they'd keep their hands off one other.

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    Lol, it's easily done.

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    Nicola Sturgeon has said she "forgot" about a meeting in which she believes she was told about harassment complaints against Alex Salmond.
    Whataboutery at its finest. You're seriously comparing Sturgeon's misdemeanours to Johnson's? Laughable.

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