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    Ah the good old NME days of enfants terrible Parsons and Burchill

    She's just horrible and he's a joke nowadays.
    When you're old enough to remember those days - or indeed any era which had a profound influence on your life - I think it's OK to preserve the memory, freeze it in time if you like. I was very young back then...too young to form a proper grasp of what constituted a good writer but I was old enough to pick up on the excitement of punk via my cousin's record and magazine collection. I used to find it phenomenally exciting to flick through the NMEs, Melody Makers and Sounds magazines which populated his bedroom and spotting the bylines of Burchill and Parsons among others, people who seemed to me impossibly exotic. Whatever sort of people they've gone on to become (or always were) doesn't really detract from that for me. Somebody else mentioned Morrissey's far-right credentials these days. While I've heard some say he was always a bit suspect re nationalism/racism, it must nevertheless be hard for many of his devotees to deal with. Does that mean though that they have to jettison the memories of what the Smiths meant to them?


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    Quote Originally Posted by He's here! View Post
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    When you're old enough to remember those days - or indeed any era which had a profound influence on your life - I think it's OK to preserve the memory, freeze it in time if you like. I was very young back then...too young to form a proper grasp of what constituted a good writer but I was old enough to pick up on the excitement of punk via my cousin's record and magazine collection. I used to find it phenomenally exciting to flick through the NMEs, Melody Makers and Sounds magazines which populated his bedroom and spotting the bylines of Burchill and Parsons among others, people who seemed to me impossibly exotic. Whatever sort of people they've gone on to become (or always were) doesn't really detract from that for me. Somebody else mentioned Morrissey's far-right credentials these days. While I've heard some say he was always a bit suspect re nationalism/racism, it must nevertheless be hard for many of his devotees to deal with. Does that mean though that they have to jettison the memories of what the Smiths meant to them?
    I've listened to The Smiths occasionally since Morrissey started getting totally OTT with the racist stuff. I just think of him as an idiot now and the memories aren't really tarnished. It's a different scenario as I'm not likely to pick up any old NMEs these days and have a scan through them (and it's not just because my Mum threw them all out in 1979 when I left home!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiber-nation View Post
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    I've listened to The Smiths occasionally since Morrissey started getting totally OTT with the racist stuff. I just think of him as an idiot now and the memories aren't really tarnished. It's a different scenario as I'm not likely to pick up any old NMEs these days and have a scan through them (and it's not just because my Mum threw them all out in 1979 when I left home!)
    The smiths are my favourite band, Morrissey is a fud but that doesn’t affect the love I have for the music or the memories I have of listening to it for the first time. It’ll always give me that tingle down the spine regardless of whether he’s a raging nazi or if he became a tree hugging communist (to be fair, he’s halfway there. Strange combination of beliefs that guy has) over night. No point letting someone you don’t personally knows political beliefs upset you or affect your appreciation of art imo


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    I've listened to The Smiths occasionally since Morrissey started getting totally OTT with the racist stuff. I just think of him as an idiot now and the memories aren't really tarnished. It's a different scenario as I'm not likely to pick up any old NMEs these days and have a scan through them (and it's not just because my Mum threw them all out in 1979 when I left home!)
    I've held on to a few of mine. There used to be regular record fairs at the Assembly Rooms and I would also often buy a few vintage editions of the music papers and magazines there.

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    The New Musical Express was my favoured music read in the 1970s by far. I'd often buy that Melody Maker (and Sounds too when it came along) but the NME was pitched just right for me. I guess I graduated straight from comics to the music press and my own favourite NME writers were Nick Kent and Charles Shaar Murray at that time. Never liked Julie Burchill much whose writing always seemed a little jaundiced and selft-satisfied to me. Parsons I could never take to much either.

    It seemed like a 'golden age' for the NME in the mid-1970s but I've heard others say the same for different eras. The NME was where I first picked up on the Pistols before being able to listen to their music, reading of this subservisive new movement that felt vibrant, exciting and fascinating. Recall the early fanzines such as 'Sniffin' Glue' coming out at this precise time and scouring everywhere possible for articles about the Pistols, The Clash, The Damned, The Jam and Buzzcocks which I'd devour over and over. It was an amazing time for change in music and NME were right there on it. Very much less so Melody Maker which always felt a little stuffy to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stu in nottingham View Post
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    The New Musical Express was my favoured music read in the 1970s by far. I'd often buy that Melody Maker (and Sounds too when it came along) but the NME was pitched just right for me. I guess I graduated straight from comics to the music press and my own favourite NME writers were Nick Kent and Charles Shaar Murray at that time. Never liked Julie Burchill much whose writing always seemed a little jaundiced and selft-satisfied to me. Parsons I could never take to much either.

    It seemed like a 'golden age' for the NME in the mid-1970s but I've heard others say the same for different eras. The NME was where I first picked up on the Pistols before being able to listen to their music, reading of this subservisive new movement that felt vibrant, exciting and fascinating. Recall the early fanzines such as 'Sniffin' Glue' coming out at this precise time and scouring everywhere possible for articles about the Pistols, The Clash, The Damned, The Jam and Buzzcocks which I'd devour over and over. It was an amazing time for change in music and NME were right there on it. Very much less so Melody Maker which always felt a little stuffy to me.
    I'm a bit younger so the first wave of punk had long since passed by the time I was getting the NME. I was more of the C86 era and can't say I really remember any of the writers from the time.
    By the early 90s I was able to get maximum rock and roll from avalanche and that became my preferred musical reading.

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    The New Musical Express was my favoured music read in the 1970s by far. I'd often buy that Melody Maker (and Sounds too when it came along) but the NME was pitched just right for me. I guess I graduated straight from comics to the music press and my own favourite NME writers were Nick Kent and Charles Shaar Murray at that time. Never liked Julie Burchill much whose writing always seemed a little jaundiced and selft-satisfied to me. Parsons I could never take to much either.

    It seemed like a 'golden age' for the NME in the mid-1970s but I've heard others say the same for different eras. The NME was where I first picked up on the Pistols before being able to listen to their music, reading of this subservisive new movement that felt vibrant, exciting and fascinating. Recall the early fanzines such as 'Sniffin' Glue' coming out at this precise time and scouring everywhere possible for articles about the Pistols, The Clash, The Damned, The Jam and Buzzcocks which I'd devour over and over. It was an amazing time for change in music and NME were right there on it. Very much less so Melody Maker which always felt a little stuffy to me.
    Charles Shaar Murray...yes, big favourite of mine too.

    As well as the fanzines it was always exciting to come across harder-to-find music mags. I've still got this copy of Zigzag:


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    Haven’t seen much of Glastonbury except for a bit of McCartney. Not much to add other than he is still stylish and well dressed
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