Scotrail

[ronaldo7]

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lol, Anas saw a photo opp...brilliant. FM totally camera shy eh.

Aye, back on track, all workers in every sector right across the UK deserve fair pay and conditions, I'm all for that.

I don't think she was invited.

[Santa Cruz]

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I don't think she was invited.

cough, cough...

https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...trike-scotland

[ronaldo7]

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cough, cough...

https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...trike-scotland

To the photo shoot.

Well done though.

[Since90+2]

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That's your take.

Mine is that they're been used in the post to say the RMT should be more like the nurses and accept lower wage offers.

Why doesn't that surprise me that you take it as a negative 😅

[ronaldo7]

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Why doesn't that surprise me that you take it as a negative 😅

I don't.

I take it as a positive that the RMT have looked after their workers, and continue to do so.

[Since90+2]

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I don't.

I take it as a positive that the RMT have looked after their workers, and continue to do so.

What's with the whole nurses getting it tight chat then? Literally nobody has done that so it's a rather bizarre take on it.

[ronaldo7]

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What's with the whole nurses getting it tight chat then? Literally nobody has done that so it's a rather bizarre take on it.

The nurses get it tight when they're rolled out as the group to be measured against. You've obviously not noticed. It happens regularly.

[Since90+2]

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The nurses get it tight when they're rolled out as the group to be measured against. You've obviously not noticed. It happens regularly.

On here and in the general public nurses are well respected and supported.

I think you're seeing things that aren't there to be honest.

[Stairway 2 7]

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The nurses get it tight when they're rolled out as the group to be measured against. You've obviously not noticed. It happens regularly.

I think it's the opposite. Mps are getting this whilst nurses getting this ect, the last 2 years especially

[Stairway 2 7]

https://news.sky.com/story/barrister...looms-12637273

Criminal barristers have become the latest group to vote for strike action as the government comes under intensifying pressure over pay demands.

The Criminal Bar Association, which represents lawyers prosecuting and defending those accused of crimes in England and Wales, said members had backed a plan for 14 days of action between 27 June and 22 July.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Tory welt telt

[SChibs]

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Tory welt telt

Divide and conquer

[Mibbes Aye]

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Tory welt telt

Matt Hancock is a welt and it would be good to see him getting telt, but the RMT statement doesn't help their cause. It's littered with inaccuracy and inexactitude

For track and trace and for unused PPE the nearest estimates I've seen come in around £50bn max. The NHS costed something like £120-130bn a year (and rising) pre-Covid. That leaves a shortfall of £70bn in the RMT sums and that's only for one year, not the funding 'for years' they make out.

Now if they are including fraud then that's another thing. But I think it would be difficult to estimate that accurately. And if it was fraud then they shouldn't accuse the Tories of 'wasting' it, they should accuse them of letting taxpayers' money be stolen, on their watch. In fact if they get good legal advice they would be better making statements that linked the awarding of public money to the Tory government's friends and donors, with little evidence of value for money.

Anyway, what also doesn't help the RMT are the claims about payrises and foodbbanks - they are spurious in the extreme. Even in times of relative prosperity there was and would always be a need for food parcels and the like, whether directly from the local authority or a voluntary sector organisation. Lofty promises to close every foodbank is just rhetoric.

As for every low-paid worker, why just them? Why not people on universal credit, or the state pension? And how much above inflation and what about next year and the year after.

Whether the RMT have a reasonable case for their salary proposals is one thing. Presenting their case like this reads like they left the Twitter feed in the hands of Owen Jones, if Owen Jones had been given too many chocolate buttons and was getting a bit carried away with himself

The Tories are doing what they do very well, saying the right things to sway the 'undecideds' out there. With statements like this the RMT make it that little bit easier for the Tories.

[Ozyhibby]

Scottish Tories must be all over the airwaves today complaining about the rail chaos in Scotland?


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[JeMeSouviens]

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Scottish Tories must be all over the airwaves today complaining about the rail chaos in Scotland?


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Well it's nothing to do with Scotrail, so I expect it's all Nippy's fault.

Doubtless Reporting Ferries will tell us tonight.

[ronaldo7]

Scottish government should be seeking compensation from the owner of network rail, for failure to allow them to use the track. 🚂

[degenerated]

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Scottish government should be seeking compensation from the owner of network rail, for failure to allow them to use the track.

They probably will and unionists will find a way of connecting grievance out of it. Something along the lines of struggling rail operators held to ransom by Scots NATS means they can't afford to give the pay rise they always really wanted to give their staff.

[lucky]

I amazed that the number of posters seem to think unions are bad or their members don’t deserve a pay rise. Not one union official votes in ballots for strike action it is the members that decide. For those in the private sector who claim they get treated worse than the public sector the message is simple join a union get organised and fight back. Low pay and divide and conquer has been a tactic used for centuries to keep workers down.

On a separate note I’m delighted to see the U.K. government honouring the triple lock guarantee on pensions, which means those in retirement will receive a cost of living increase it’s just a shame they don’t think worker deserve it too

[neil7908]

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I amazed that the number of posters seem to think unions are bad or their members don’t deserve a pay rise. Not one union official votes in ballots for strike action it is the members that decide. For those in the private sector who claim they get treated worse than the public sector the message is simple join a union get organised and fight back. Low pay and divide and conquer has been a tactic used for centuries to keep workers down.

On a separate note I’m delighted to see the U.K. government honouring the triple lock guarantee on pensions, which means those in retirement will receive a cost of living increase it’s just a shame they don’t think worker deserve it too

The Governments decision here is laughable and clear to anyone with half a brain that they are just rewarding their supporters.

That's not to say as you do that pensions shouldn't rise, but apparently for Boris and Co putting up pensions by 9% isn't going to adversely impact inflation, but we have to be very careful with salaries.

It's a almost as if pensioners vote for them on mass...

[staunchhibby]

Sorry but I am a pensioner.Most certainly not a Tory voter

[Stairway 2 7]

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Sorry but I am a pensioner.Most certainly not a Tory voter

It's all about averages though. The pensioner vote is weighed to the right and they vote in big numbers. Even though there is many on the good side like yourself

[Pretty Boy]

CWU balloting postal workers on strike action.

Good, the more we see workers start to stand up for their rights and unions regain the power that was taken from them the better.

[ACLeith]

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Sorry but I am a pensioner.Most certainly not a Tory voter

I'll second that.

[Stairway 2 7]

https://archive.ph/p5OPy

UK’s biggest teacher union threatens strike unless Government awards ‘inflation-plus’ pay increase
EXCLUSIVEThe NEU says it will be ‘throwing the kitchen sink’ at plans to ensure teachers ‘get the pay rise they deserve’

The letter calls for Mr Zahawi to change his evidence to the STRB – the independent body which advises the Government on teacher pay – to “indicate that above inflation pay rises should be awarded for experienced teachers; it is not good enough to propose higher rises only for beginner teachers (which are themselves likely to be lower than inflation).”

[Kato]

Strikers portrayed as "Putins friends" by some standard Tory yakyakker.

https://twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status...QP000L6mw&s=19

Meanwhile a Conservative Party fund raiser, attended by actual Russians with links to the KGB and Putin took place this week.

https://www.museumsassociation.org/m...er-ball-at-va/

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[Northernhibee]

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Tory welt telt

I have a feeling that this isn’t going the way the Tories expected. I think more people are backing the strikers than expected.

There’s been a definite shift of mood the more time goes on.

[Hibrandenburg]

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I amazed that the number of posters seem to think unions are bad or their members don’t deserve a pay rise. Not one union official votes in ballots for strike action it is the members that decide. For those in the private sector who claim they get treated worse than the public sector the message is simple join a union get organised and fight back. Low pay and divide and conquer has been a tactic used for centuries to keep workers down.

On a separate note I’m delighted to see the U.K. government honouring the triple lock guarantee on pensions, which means those in retirement will receive a cost of living increase it’s just a shame they don’t think worker deserve it too

I worked for a UK company that had a hub in Germany. When the hub opened we had exactly the same T&Cs as those in the UK but over a few years our T&Cs were far superior to those in the UK because we unionised and fought tooth and nail for improvements. Our UK colleagues used to constantly bitch that we were being given preferential treatment just couldn't fathom why we had much higher pay and better working conditions. Yet when you mentioned the word union they'd all pull a face as if you'd just farted in public. Somehow the UK public have been conditioned to think that unions are almost criminal, whereas mostly they help balance the power between employer and employee. I wonder how much of workers rights have to be diluted and how much more the balance of power needs to sway in favour of employers before they finally wake up.

[hibsbollah]

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I worked for a UK company that had a hub in Germany. When the hub opened we had exactly the same T&Cs as those in the UK but over a few years our T&Cs were far superior to those in the UK because we unionised and fought tooth and nail for improvements. Our UK colleagues used to constantly bitch that we were being given preferential treatment just couldn't fathom why we had much higher pay and better working conditions. Yet when you mentioned the word union they'd all pull a face as if you'd just farted in public. Somehow the UK public have been conditioned to think that unions are almost criminal, whereas mostly they help balance the power between employer and employee. I wonder how much of workers rights have to be diluted and how much more the balance of power needs to sway in favour of employers before they finally wake up.

Unions being viewed as 'almost criminal' stems from the 80s and 90s, a much more revealing period in labour relations than the 70s, which is the era we're encouraged to pick apart for political lessons. And when Labour MPs are briefing that their whips are encouraging them to 'issue public apologies or face disciplinary action' for joining a picket line, who's actually surprised?

If you want protection at work, whether from dodgy health and safety, pay or pensions, you're better in a union. That's why they always under attack from government.

[marinello59]

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CWU balloting postal workers on strike action.

Good, the more we see workers start to stand up for their rights and unions regain the power that was taken from them the better.

The biggest difference we can make to our day to day lives comes not from constitutional change, it comes from joining a union and using the power that brings to make real change.

[Since90+2]

Edinburgh Tram workers threatening to strike during the festival after rejecting a 4% rise. I think they are paid around 25k per year.

Will be a disaster for hospitality although not as bad as if bus drivers were to strike, but I have a hunch that is probably a certainty. Very worrying times for those who work in hospitality as a lot of venues make enough money during the festival to get them through the quiet months, strikes would genuinely threaten jobs.

That is not having a dig at the drivers btw, they have a right to strike for better terms and conditions but the reality of the situation.