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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg View Post
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    If you drive at 45 instead of 70, then you will save a lot on fuel costs. Mind you you might get lynched for doing so.
    I read that 55 mph was the optimum speed for fuel efficiency. Can't remember where I read it though and no idea if it's true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danhibees1875 View Post
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    I read that 55 mph was the optimum speed for fuel efficiency. Can't remember where I read it though and no idea if it's true.
    The average car uses 17% more fuel at 70 mph than doing 56 mph. Years since I read this and no idea if this is true of modern cars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killiehibbie View Post
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    The average car is uses 17% more fuel at 70 mph than doing 56 mph. Years since I read this and no idea if this is true of modern cars.
    It's not, the statistic comes from a time where only 3 speeds were taken into consideration and were supposed to represent urban, rural and motorway driving. Modern vehicles have the least fuel consumption when travelling between 40 and 50 mph.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg View Post
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    It's not, the statistic comes from a time where only 3 speeds were taken into consideration and were supposed to represent urban, rural and motorway driving. Modern vehicles have the least fuel consumption when travelling between 40 and 50 mph.
    According to howstuffworks it's somewhere between 40 and 60 mph for best fuel consumption depending on size and shape of vehicle.
    Maybe some of those vehicles holding everybody up and potentially causing carnage are being driven in the most fuel efficient way

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    A man drove from the east coast of the USA to the west coast and averaged 83 mpg.

    His tip was to not exceed 2000 rpm and ignore the speedometer. Not suggesting this would work in city traffic but on a long drive perhaps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    Where does he say motorways and dual carriageways belong t to everyone????

    You really need to take a step back before posting!!!
    Are you for real? The whole conversation is clearly about 70 mph roads, i.e motorways and dual carriageways. Try to keep up pal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SChibs View Post
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    However if your capabilities mean you aren't able to keep up reasonable speed then maybe you shouldn't be driving on dual carriageways or motorways. Take an alternative route or take additional lessons to build confidence and skills.
    Exactly.

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    If you drive at 45 instead of 70, then you will save a lot on fuel costs. Mind you you might get lynched for doing so.
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    According to howstuffworks it's somewhere between 40 and 60 mph for best fuel consumption depending on size and shape of vehicle.
    Maybe some of those vehicles holding everybody up and potentially causing carnage are being driven in the most fuel efficient way

    You might save a wee bit money on fuel costs, but you will also lose time out your life. And you'll also likely contribute to slowing down traffic which could include vehicles delivering food, drink and medicine, people going to medical appointments, job interviews, college lessons, work meetings etc.

    So selfish and inconsiderate as well as dangerous.

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    Exactly.






    You might save a wee bit money on fuel costs, but you will also lose time out your life. And you'll also likely contribute to slowing down traffic which could include vehicles delivering food, drink and medicine, people going to medical appointments, job interviews, college lessons, work meetings etc.

    So selfish and inconsiderate as well as dangerous.
    Lucky to get going as fast as 40 most of the day on the city bypass and when you do sheriff hall just causes a bigger holdup than any slower drivers ever do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Killiehibbie View Post
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    Lucky to get going as fast as 40 most of the day on the city bypass and when you do sheriff hall just causes a bigger holdup than any slower drivers ever do.
    You'r wasting your breathe, apparently if you can't drive at the speed limit you're incapable of driving and are a danger to everyone else. But the city by-pass is safe because there are hard shoulders on every dual carriageway and motorway, despite that being absolutely untrue!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killiehibbie View Post
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    Lucky to get going as fast as 40 most of the day on the city bypass and when you do sheriff hall just causes a bigger holdup than any slower drivers ever do.
    I drive along it and back every Monday and Tuesday morning and routinely drive at 70.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    You'r wasting your breathe, apparently if you can't drive at the speed limit you're incapable of driving and are a danger to everyone else. But the city by-pass is safe because there are hard shoulders on every dual carriageway and motorway, despite that being absolutely untrue!!
    Nobody has actually said that. You actually tried to claim that no dual carriageways had hard shoulders, which was proven to be nonsense. You've got yourself in a right muddle again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaMotta View Post
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    I drive along it and back every Monday and Tuesday morning and routinely drive at 70.
    That must explain the average of 40 accidents a year (FOI request 2015-2018)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killiehibbie View Post
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    Lucky to get going as fast as 40 most of the day on the city bypass and when you do sheriff hall just causes a bigger holdup than any slower drivers ever do.
    You're not wrong, can be a nightmare at (most!) times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    That must explain the average of 40 accidents a year (FOI request 2015-2018)
    Why would me driving safely along the bypass at 70 twice a week for the last 2 years explain that there were an average of 40 accidents a year on the Edinburgh Bypass between 2015 and 2018? Going to start calling you Roger Irrelevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaMotta View Post
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    Why would me driving safely along the bypass at 70 twice a week for the last 2 years explain that there were an average of 40 accidents a year on the Edinburgh Bypass between 2015 and 2018? Going to start calling you Roger Irrelevant.
    98 journeys a year, 40 accidents a year, you claim to be driving at 70 on the road while number of people saying that you are lucky to average over 40 means statistically you could be involved in 40% of all accidents on the bypass 🤔😂😂😂
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    98 journeys a year, 40 accidents a year, you claim to be driving at 70 on the road while number of people saying that you are lucky to average over 40 means statistically you could be involved in 40% of all accidents on the bypass 🤔😂😂😂
    What the hell are you on about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaMotta View Post
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    What the hell are you on about?
    Very simple, sorry if you can't keep up. You are doing 98 journeys a year, there are 40 accidents a year, so, for every journey you are likely to be involved in an accident 40% of the time, but, judging by your attitude towards other drivers you are likely to be oblivious!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    Very simple, sorry if you can't keep up. You are doing 98 journeys a year, there are 40 accidents a year, so, for every journey you are likely to be involved in an accident 40% of the time, but, judging by your attitude towards other drivers you are likely to be oblivious!!!

    How, just how, are you making that assumption? That doesn't make any sense. There is absolutely no correlation between the 2 figures and that random percentage you have come up with.

    As for your last sentence, full on irony - as you are the one advocating that people drive selfishly & dangerously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaMotta View Post
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    How, just how, are you making that assumption? That doesn't make any sense. There is absolutely no correlation between the 2 figures and that random percentage you have come up with.

    As for your last sentence, full on irony - as you are the one advocating that people drive dangerously.
    https://www.think.gov.uk/themes/speed/

    https://www.think.gov.uk/campaign/be-the-mate-who-wont-speed/

    https://www.fiaregion1.com/slowing-saves-lives/


    https://www.slowspeedingkills.com/

    Funny how no one campaign for road safety has been about speeding up, all the about slowing down. It must make you wonder why anyone would want to drive fast? 🤔
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaMotta View Post
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    How, just how, are you making that assumption? That doesn't make any sense. There is absolutely no correlation between the 2 figures and that random percentage you have come up with.

    As for your last sentence, full on irony - as you are the one advocating that people drive selfishly & dangerously.
    Arithmetic not your strongest subject 🤔😉
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    https://www.think.gov.uk/themes/speed/

    https://www.think.gov.uk/campaign/be...ho-wont-speed/

    https://www.fiaregion1.com/slowing-saves-lives/


    https://www.slowspeedingkills.com/

    Funny how no one campaign for road safety has been about speeding up, all the about slowing down. It must make you wonder why anyone would want to drive fast? 🤔
    Glad you've given up trying to explain what your wacky nonsensical stat was all about. An impossible task.

    Why are you making the point that driving over the speed limit is dangerous though? No one has tried to suggest otherwise and I agree completely. It has nothing to do with the fact that driving too slowly can be dangerous. Roger Irrelevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    Arithmetic not your strongest subject ����
    You are surely at the wind up here.

    Your figures are nonsense! Please just tell me you are at the wind up.

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    Open another bottle lads !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    https://www.think.gov.uk/themes/speed/

    https://www.think.gov.uk/campaign/be-the-mate-who-wont-speed/

    https://www.fiaregion1.com/slowing-saves-lives/


    https://www.slowspeedingkills.com/

    Funny how no one campaign for road safety has been about speeding up, all the about slowing down. It must make you wonder why anyone would want to drive fast? 🤔
    Probably because speeding costs more lives than slow drivers. It doesn't mean that slow drivers aren't a problem, they just aren't as much of a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SChibs View Post
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    Probably because speeding costs more lives than slow drivers. It doesn't mean that slow drivers aren't a problem, they just aren't as much of a problem.
    It's almost like we needed something sensible 👍😁

    Speed kills but slow drivers are an inconvenience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    It's almost like we needed something sensible 👍😁

    Speed kills but slow drivers are an inconvenience.
    I've no skin in your argument with LaMotta - but this 40% thing has been bugging me and I want to know the solution.

    My running theories are that LaMotta is the only user of the bypass or he's responsible for all 40 crashes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by danhibees1875 View Post
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    I've no skin in your argument with LaMotta - but this 40% thing has been bugging me and I want to know the solution.

    My running theories are that LaMotta is the only user of the bypass or he's responsible for all 40 crashes...
    I forgot he/she said they drove the bypass each way 2x a week so they should witness/be involved in 20% of accidents a year rather than the 40% I said initially.

    The suggestion that they are able to drive safely at an average of 70mph on bypass however doesn't stand up to scrutiny by my, and others experience. 😉
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    I forgot he/she said they drove the bypass each way 2x a week so they should witness/be involved in 20% of accidents a year rather than the 40% I said initially.

    The suggestion that they are able to drive safely at an average of 70mph on bypass however doesn't stand up to scrutiny by my, and others experience. ��
    Seriously mate your first paragraph still makes absolutely no sense. There is no logic in it at all. If anyone else can make sense of it please help out here

    BTW I never said I drove at an average of 70mph, I said I routinely drive at 70mph on the bypass as do many others. Of course there are times when it's not possible, but saying you can rarely get above 40 is not true in my experience.

    I'll wager that I will hit 70 tomorrow as well. And safely. Will provide an update when home, I'm sure people will be excited to know the outcome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaMotta View Post
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    Seriously mate your first paragraph still makes absolutely no sense. There is no logic in it at all. If anyone else can make sense of it please help out here

    BTW I never said I drove at an average of 70mph, I said I routinely drive at 70mph on the bypass as do many others. Of course there are times when it's not possible, but saying you can rarely get above 40 is not true in my experience.

    I'll wager that I will hit 70 tomorrow as well. And safely. Will provide an update when home, I'm sure people will be excited to know the outcome.

    I drive down the bypass every Monday and will hit 70mph regularly between Dreghorn and Gilmerton junction, I don't know what percentage of accidents I'll cause but I an driving at the speed limit of the road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    I forgot he/she said they drove the bypass each way 2x a week so they should witness/be involved in 20% of accidents a year rather than the 40% I said initially.

    The suggestion that they are able to drive safely at an average of 70mph on bypass however doesn't stand up to scrutiny by my, and others experience. 😉
    Your 1st paragraph like a few of your other posts on this thread make no sense at all.

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