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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    Think he can buy 100 eventually. I don't mind people getting help to get on property ladder but as long as that money goes to more Social housing. Really hard times for young people looking for rent or a mortgage
    Yeah they can, each time they increase their share they incur more legal fees. Quite hard to get a mortgage for the share unless you have a substantial deposit. Not the cheapest option sometimes paying both a mortgage and occupancy fee, the amount each H.A charges varies wildly. Yip really hard time for young people.

    Sorry, I'm derailing again...just bored and disappointed, we'll get shot of them eventually.


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    Yeah they can, each time they increase their share they incur more legal fees. Quite hard to get a mortgage for the share unless you have a substantial deposit. Not the cheapest option sometimes paying both a mortgage and occupancy fee, the amount each H.A charges varies wildly. Yip really hard time for young people.

    Sorry, I'm derailing again...just bored and disappointed, we'll get shot of them eventually.
    Only positive is and I'm not really a gambler but I like looking to see the trend, a few bookies now have labour favourites for next election tonight. First time in years they have been. Obviously long to go but...

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    I’ve found the Lord of the Gammons on Newsnight tonight… I give you…Adam Holloway PM.

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    I’ve found the Lord of the Gammons on Newsnight tonight… I give you…Adam Holloway PM.
    Given the amount of pish he talked I'd prefer he just stayed an MP, rather than taking over from Johnson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibsbollah View Post
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    I’ve found the Lord of the Gammons on Newsnight tonight… I give you…Adam Holloway PM.
    Its astonishing that they insist the whole thing boils down to "ambushed by a cake." Laying it bare as though that is all that happened and is even the point. You can only think they either button up the back or are aiming this guff at people who do.



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    The Belarusian view.

    https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/...jKb5IXb1Q&s=09

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    The Belarusian view.

    https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/...jKb5IXb1Q&s=09

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    That's a pro Ukraine anti lukachenko paper, one of its editors is in jail for being anti Moscow.

    Twitter was full of pro Ukrainians defending him yesterday. Partygate looks trivial if there is a genocide going on in your country, but that means f all in the uk. There is no war here so partying when we were protecting each other and lying to parliament is huge.

    If he went the next person would also back Ukraine, he needs to go

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    That's a pro Ukraine anti lukachenko paper, one of its editors is in jail for being anti Moscow.

    Twitter was full of pro Ukrainians defending him yesterday. Partygate looks trivial if there is a genocide going on in your country, but that means f all in the uk. There is no war here so partying when we were protecting each other and lying to parliament is huge.

    If he went the next person would also back Ukraine, he needs to go
    And Zelensky would automatically become the new PM’s best friend and he would likely never mention Johnson’s name again.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    And Zelensky would automatically become the new PM’s best friend and he would likely never mention Johnson’s name again.


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    Definitely and understandably

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    Woke up this morning and although it’s almost certainly the beginning of the end for him, is anyone else absolutely furious about so many elected officials being willing to not only back a liar and a crook but the way in which they’re doing so? Comments about Zelensky “punching the air”, blatant gaslighting about getting big decisions right, the usual comments about cake, certain MPs just flat out trolling on Twitter, one MP on the telly last night claiming that by getting a larger percentage last night compared to in the leadership election that he’s increased his mandate and when asked about Theresa Mays VONC result he then said that he’s not in the business for comparing like for like result.

    They were reportedly told last night that Johnson would do the same all over again re: the lockdown parties so they know his apology wasn’t genuine. They still backed him.

    They’ve declared open war on decency, public standards and the electorate in recent months. I cannot ****ing wait for them to face the ballot box. They’re the lowest of the low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    Given the amount of pish he talked I'd prefer he just stayed an MP, rather than taking over from Johnson.
    Freudian autocorrect.

    He was so viscerally ANGRY while continuing to make ridiculous point after ridiculous point (complaining that the bbc were biased using evidence such as a photo of BJ that made him look like Hannibal Lecter’ when they had used an actual photo of him, not, I dunno, a mocked up BJ in a Russian hat, for example) that if you dislike the Tories you just want to watch more and more of those kind of entitled tantrums.

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    Why always the ‘lame duck’ metaphor? If a duck was lame couldn’t it just fly and be ok? Wouldn’t a lame frog or mouse be a worse thing?

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    VONC in the PM will be tabled today in the HOC. whether it will be allowed to be debated is another matter.

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    Last nights result is great for the U.K. long term as it’s now very likely the Tories will lose the next GE. Short term is a disaster as he is unfit to be an MP never mind the PM

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    He has a point?

    https://twitter.com/BBCPhilipSim/sta...SMXdmCNqQ&s=19

    "Obviously when a party is tearing itself apart, the best thing for opponents to do is stand aside (and laugh). But it feels slightly striking at this moment of utter chaos in the UK govt that there apparently isn’t much in the way of an independence campaign seeking to capitalise

    Maybe it’s coming…but bearing in mind that indyref2 is meant to be not much more than a year away, you’d think Yes supporters might have been hoping for a bit more urgency in terms of campaign machinery whirring to life than a Nicola Sturgeon tweet about democratic deficits"

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    He has a point?

    https://twitter.com/BBCPhilipSim/sta...SMXdmCNqQ&s=19

    "Obviously when a party is tearing itself apart, the best thing for opponents to do is stand aside (and laugh). But it feels slightly striking at this moment of utter chaos in the UK govt that there apparently isn’t much in the way of an independence campaign seeking to capitalise

    Maybe it’s coming…but bearing in mind that indyref2 is meant to be not much more than a year away, you’d think Yes supporters might have been hoping for a bit more urgency in terms of campaign machinery whirring to life than a Nicola Sturgeon tweet about democratic deficits"
    He does have a point. The same point that BBC Scotland makes in every report they ever do about the SNP, namely that they're no good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James310 View Post
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    He has a point?

    https://twitter.com/BBCPhilipSim/sta...SMXdmCNqQ&s=19

    "Obviously when a party is tearing itself apart, the best thing for opponents to do is stand aside (and laugh). But it feels slightly striking at this moment of utter chaos in the UK govt that there apparently isn’t much in the way of an independence campaign seeking to capitalise

    Maybe it’s coming…but bearing in mind that indyref2 is meant to be not much more than a year away, you’d think Yes supporters might have been hoping for a bit more urgency in terms of campaign machinery whirring to life than a Nicola Sturgeon tweet about democratic deficits"
    There does appear to be a hold up in bringing a bill before the Scottish Parliament. Not sure what is causing it though and so far the Yes movement is showing patience.
    The ups and downs of Johnson’s govt should be what sets the timetable though.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    He does have a point. The same point that BBC Scotland makes in every report they ever do about the SNP, namely that they're no good.
    This isn't about good or bad government though, this is about the political party. As an aside I rarely see broadcasters running story's about how great a government is and how wonderful they are, unless you live in North Korea or Russia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    There does appear to be a hold up in bringing a bill before the Scottish Parliament. Not sure what is causing it though and so far the Yes movement is showing patience.
    The ups and downs of Johnson’s govt should be what sets the timetable though.


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    I can hazard a guess, it's outside the competency of the Scottish Parliament.

    The legal advice is due to be released in the next week, that will shed some light on it.

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    I can hazard a guess, it's outside the competency of the Scottish Parliament.

    The legal advice is due to be released in the next week, that will shed some light on it.
    What's this got to do with Tories being lying *******s?

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    Noticed it last night and even more so this morning, you know they are worried when they roll out the Labour/SNP/Lib Dem axis of evil chat

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    He does have a point. The same point that BBC Scotland makes in every report they ever do about the SNP, namely that they're no good.
    Reporting Ferries spent upwards of 10 minutes on Johnson's woes last night without a single vox pop from Adrdossan. What exactly are we paying the licence fee for?

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    “What do you think President Zelinskiy will be thinking tonight?” Zahawi added. “He’ll be punching the air because he knows his great ally Boris Johnson will be prime minister tomorrow morning.”

    What a total plum.

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    It's crass to use Ukraine fighting for their lives for political gain. Zelensky is at war UK isn't, so lying to parliament is a big deal here. Zelensky will be greatful but the next leader would do the exact same.

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    Bet we still get sent the bill though.


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    Bet we still get sent the bill though.
    https://twitter.com/TMangnall/status...GzpPdv_7sKcUYQ

    How lucky for Leigh MP James Grundy, who's devoted his entire time in Westminster to trying to save his dad's farm from the Golborne HS2 link, that he supported the PM yesterday and today he's got what he wanted! What a lucky & unexpected supprise for him! I'm sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James310 View Post
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    He has a point?

    https://twitter.com/BBCPhilipSim/sta...SMXdmCNqQ&s=19

    "Obviously when a party is tearing itself apart, the best thing for opponents to do is stand aside (and laugh). But it feels slightly striking at this moment of utter chaos in the UK govt that there apparently isn’t much in the way of an independence campaign seeking to capitalise

    Maybe it’s coming…but bearing in mind that indyref2 is meant to be not much more than a year away, you’d think Yes supporters might have been hoping for a bit more urgency in terms of campaign machinery whirring to life than a Nicola Sturgeon tweet about democratic deficits"
    So the best thing for the opposition is stand aside while the unionist torys rip themselves apart but the independence movement, or constitutional opposition, should get involved now 🤔

    Well thats cleared things up.
    Space to let

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    So the best thing for the opposition is stand aside while the unionist torys rip themselves apart but the independence movement, or constitutional opposition, should get involved now 🤔

    Well thats cleared things up.
    Stop talking about independence is their usual mantra.

    They lied though.

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    The lack of clarity in whether we'll have a referendum next year is weird. Should be full guns blazing right now, surely tories don't have the energy to fight another front

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    The lack of clarity in whether we'll have a referendum next year is weird. Should be full guns blazing right now, surely tories don't have the energy to fight another front
    A bill need to be passed in Scottish Parly first.


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