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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    I'll be first. A month ago, he must have told someone at the Met.
    Imagine you’re a civil servant, you go to a lockdown party at #10, the PM pours the drinks and walks round chatting to you and it’s clearly his party, but you get fined for attending and he doesn’t for holding it? And this happens 125 other times while he gets fined ONCE?

    The Met aren’t a police force, they’re the Tory stormtroopers.

    ‘ One Whitehall source pointed out that junior civil servants had received FPNs for going to at least one event which the prime minister not only attended but also gave a speech at.’


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    I have a suspicion that starmer saying he will resign if fined may have influenced the police response to not giving Johnson any further fines. Let's face it, if others at the BYOB garden party were fined then so should he and his wife.
    There is no such thing as too much yarn, just not enough time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kato View Post
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    Johnson knew a month ago he'd only get one fine. Someone at the Met must have told him.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    I'll be first. A month ago, he must have told someone at the Met.

    Johnson and Gray had a private meeting a month ago to discuss handling of the report.

    Do they actually do anything that isn't corrupt any more? They've long since bothered to try and hide the lies and deception. They know they can lie with impunity. These are dangerous times in UK politics. I fear for the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radium View Post
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    https://twitter.com/mhairiblack/stat...FHal_NjLq_7QJA

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    Brilliant speech imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimBHibees View Post
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    Brilliant speech imo
    She got it spot on, especially when the Tories started squirming.

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    Always liked Mhairi Black. She's the kind of radical (relatively speaking) voice that an independent Scotland needs.

    There's going to be huge risk that in the desperation for consensus there will be a broad continuation of neoliberalism albeit with more of a social conscience. People like Black are the voices we need to make sure that doesn't happen.
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    Broken Britain


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    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2084297.html

    Sunak spending tax payers cash on polling about himself in order to improve his image. Seems legit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kato View Post
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    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2084297.html

    Sunak spending tax payers cash on polling about himself in order to improve his image. Seems legit?
    That's totally out of order.. no way is it government related info?


    Edit: happy for crunchie etc to put their point forward on why this is a good way of spending our money during this particular financial crisis this way rather than adding it into the pot for those on benefits/using food banks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Alf View Post
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    That's totally out of order.. no way is it government related info?
    They do it all the time. They are sitting on about two years worth of polling on Scottish independence and have lost court cases trying to keep it hidden yet it is still not available. The rules don’t apply to them.


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    Tories voted out down under Australia election: conservative government voted out after nearly a decade (msn.com)


    now get them to **** out of Westminster...and Holyrood after independence :)


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    Quote Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875 View Post
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    Tories voted out down under Australia election: conservative government voted out after nearly a decade (msn.com)


    now get them to **** out of Westminster...and Holyrood after independence :)


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    If they are booted out of Westminster then that means a Labour government, surely that's not great for the SNP? How would that bring independence closer? The Tory's and the SNP are like the old firm, they both feed off each other. Would surely be harder for the SNP attack lines to work on a left of center progressive Labour government than this particular right wing Tory one. (Not that it seem to have made any difference to the polling for Independence)

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    Quote Originally Posted by James310 View Post
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    If they are booted out of Westminster then that means a Labour government, surely that's not great for the SNP? How would that bring independence closer? The Tory's and the SNP are like the old firm, they both feed off each other. Would surely be harder for the SNP attack lines to work on a left of center progressive Labour government than this particular right wing Tory one. (Not that it seem to have made any difference to the polling for Independence)
    SNP came to power in Scotland under a Labour govt in London.
    Too many people put too much emphasise on the Tories or Johnson being what drives support for Indy. It’s a crap system that favours the the south of England above all else that drives support for Indy. That won’t change no matter who is in power in London.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875 View Post
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    Tories voted out down under Australia election: conservative government voted out after nearly a decade (msn.com)


    now get them to **** out of Westminster...and Holyrood after independence :)


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    The outgoing government was a coalition!!!!
    There is no such thing as too much yarn, just not enough time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James310 View Post
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    If they are booted out of Westminster then that means a Labour government, surely that's not great for the SNP? How would that bring independence closer? The Tory's and the SNP are like the old firm, they both feed off each other. Would surely be harder for the SNP attack lines to work on a left of center progressive Labour government than this particular right wing Tory one. (Not that it seem to have made any difference to the polling for Independence)
    Huh! In your dreams.

    The next, if there ever is one, left of center progressive Labour government it will be too late.

    Scotland will be a thriving, established independent county for a long time by then.
    Space to let

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
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    Huh! In your dreams.

    The next, if there ever is one, left of center progressive Labour government it will be too late.

    Scotland will be a thriving, established independent county for a long time by then.
    When do you think the next referendum will be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by James310 View Post
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    When do you think the next referendum will be?
    Why should I know any better than anyone else?
    Space to let


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    The referendum will be so close that I would presume that if a labour Westminster government came in before it, then it would be a no vote.

    Me not wanting that doesn't change the reality of another tory win helps independence.

    It's undecideds that is the game 40% either way won't budge. Alot of labour voters to be won and many would want to give a labour Westminster a chance, thinking they are daft doesn't change the fact
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    it's widespread in the vile Tory party i'm not sure if this is a new one or not Top Tory MP faces drink spiking claims as victim 'woke up to find nipples being licked' - Mirror Online

    A senior Tory MP is caught up in allegations swirling around Westminster that he plied four victims with date-rape drugs.
    It is claimed the man used the substance on a fellow Conservative MP, who awoke to find his nipples being licked.


    It is also said a Labour MP was abused after the man administered the drug to him – while the flatmate of another Tory MP claimed to friends he had a similar experience.
    A fourth man also claimed he had rebuffed his advances, and had suspicions his drink was spiked.
    A source said: “The name of this alleged attacker is being spoken about openly among Conservative MPs.

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    It depends on the type of Labour government.

    If it’s the type of centre right Labour government that England might actually vote in then that should be a gift to the SNP.

    If it was a “proper” Labour government (that would very much be up against ever being voted in) then that would be a different story.

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    https://www.itv.com/news/2022-05-23/...uring-lockdown

    Prime Minister Boris Johnson pictured drinking at Downing Street party during lockdown

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    Needs to be resignations in the MET as well as government.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Northernhibee View Post
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    Needs to be resignations in the MET as well as government.
    There might be, but none of the resignations will be Boris Johnson's.

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    I’m struggling to keep up with all his different positions on this?


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    I’m struggling to keep up with all his different positions on this?


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    Imran Ahmad Khan: Ex-MP jailed for sex assault on teenage boy - BBC News


    don't enjoy yer stay too much Tory ***t

    A former Conservative MP has been jailed for 18 months following his conviction for sexually assaulting a 15-year-old boy.


    At a trial last month, Imran Ahmad Khan, 48, who was elected as Wakefield MP in 2019, was found guilty of groping the boy at a party in 2008.


    Khan was expelled by the Conservative party following his conviction and later stood down as an MP.


    The judge said he did not accept Khan had "any remorse" for what he had done.


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    I’m struggling to keep up with all his different positions on this?


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