SNP are lying b******s as well !

[James310]

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It's law to have one in the barbers. She should get fined like all the tories. She made the rules, preached them, so live by them. Not as boris who lied to parliament, but those who make the rules should follow them and no make daft excuses

It's the most minor of minor breaches, but...she extended the law to have face masks and she has broken that law (for the second time). Nothing should come of it but she must expect the reaction when she has been telling us all week if you break the law you should resign.

[Just Alf]

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So the SNP creation, Police Scotland , won’t fine their boss .

Hope not, she should be treated the same as everyone else surely?


Ps I spotted yer smiley in the 1st post and did take it you were being a bit tounge in cheek

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Hope not, she should be treated the same as everyone else surely?


Ps I spotted yer smiley in the 1st post and did take it you were being a bit tounge in cheek

Yep, you’re right.

[hibby rae]

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Nonsense both leaders made the rules and should be punished like the riff raff.

Well she has said that she forgot for a few seconds and then put one on, everyone makes an honest mistake sometimes, and there's no reason to think anything different happened. In a two-year period she's forgotten to wear a mask twice. Big difference between having a brain fart and deceiving the entire nation, and House, through consistently breaking the rules during the most severe period of the pandemic.

The two leaders and scenarios are poles apart from each other and can't be equated.

[Just Alf]

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Yep, you’re right.

I'm so happy lol :-)

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Well she has said that she forgot for a few seconds and then put one on, everyone makes an honest mistake sometimes, and there's no reason to think anything different happened. In a two-year period she's forgotten to wear a mask twice. Big difference between having a brain fart and deceiving the entire nation, and House, through consistently breaking the rules during the most severe period of the pandemic.

The two leaders and scenarios are poles apart from each other and can't be equated.

I say without a mask on for 20 minutes on the train on Friday, not in protest or to be difficult, I simply just forgot. The minute I realised I stuck it on. Everyone is human and can make a mistake.

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Well she has said that she forgot for a few seconds and then put one on, everyone makes an honest mistake sometimes, and there's no reason to think anything different happened. In a two-year period she's forgotten to wear a mask twice. Big difference between having a brain fart and deceiving the entire nation, and House, through consistently breaking the rules during the most severe period of the pandemic.

The two leaders and scenarios are poles apart from each other and can't be equated.

She wasn't just walking down the street then jumped in a random shop. She had a huge team with her and photogrophers, they would have talked before she walked in. She is going from person to person and getting videos without one. If it was a tory there would be fuming.

It is a nonsense but it's a nonsense she made the rules for, then extended after going to church without a mask. Having a cake on your birthday is no big deal, but if you decide the rules you should get done. If not everyone fined in the last two years should rip up their fines.

I've said repeatedly boris should walk, not for the cake but the lying to parliament. If more fines for parties come he should resign for that. NS shouldn't resign, but should take a fine or risk pissing off everyone fined.

The reply would be I doubt others got fined for not wearing a mask. But also no one will have got a fine for having a cake with staff. It doesn't matter, you make the rules stick by them

[Stokesy's on fire]

You know what Boris and Sturgeon are like the old firm they are both cheeks of the same smelly backside

[Stairway 2 7]

IMHO Sturgeon is a good person with flows like everyone, whilst boris is a ****

[Hibrandenburg]

So forgetting to put on a mask is now equivalent to holding several garden panties where no masks were worn and suitcases of alcohol were smuggled in to the party. Grasping at straws doesn't cover it.

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So forgetting to put on a mask is now equivalent to holding several garden panties where no masks were worn and suitcases of alcohol were smuggled in to the party. Grasping at straws doesn't cover it.

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No masks were required at outside gatherings

No straws have been grasped . Who made the law ? Who broke the law ? Sturgeon

[lapsedhibee]

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Who made the law ? Who broke the law ? Sturgeon

Since it's Eastertime ... Jesus had a moustache. And Hitler did too.

[Moulin Yarns]

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No masks were required at outside gatherings

No straws have been grasped . Who made the law ? Who broke the law ? Sturgeon

Straws were grasped at the downing Street parties, all part of the games they were playing! 😉


What about the parties in 10 downing Street, indoors, with alcohol and without masks?!

[Santa Cruz]

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No masks were required at outside gatherings

No straws have been grasped . Who made the law ? Who broke the law ? Sturgeon

Correct. In the video not one person out of the several present had a mask on. Sure, she can say she forgot, did she not notice everyone else surrounding her was breaking the law?

[Mcbizz1998]

Usual nationalist whatabouttery on here and social media.

Nicola Sturgeon was responsible for covid restrictions in Scotland, not Boris or the tories. Extended the mask mandate was a piece of covid theatre from Sturgeon, and she has been hoisted by her own petard. Glorious.

[Andy Bee]

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So forgetting to put on a mask is now equivalent to holding several garden panties where no masks were worn and suitcases of alcohol were smuggled in to the party. Grasping at straws doesn't cover it.

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Whilst I would never disregard anything this UK Government is capable of, why would they be holding "garden panties" and what the **** have you been googling if that indeed is a predictive text typo?

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So forgetting to put on a mask is now equivalent to holding several garden panties where no masks were worn and suitcases of alcohol were smuggled in to the party. Grasping at straws doesn't cover it.

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Don't believe she forgot a mask. She would have talked before walking in with her large team. She takes a selfie with people without a mask and shakes his hair. As per the masks are for the cameras. Last week was the excuse, the Queen might have asked her to not wear one, talk about straw clutching.

If she doesn't take a fine it's a piss take to everyone who got one.

There's only whataboutary from one side, almost unanimously everyone said boris should walk. His was worse but unrelated. The rulers need to stick to the rules too

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Also in the video she put out there's about 10 people all without masks, in one small room. Do they not really care about the rules. Surely if she is meeting so many people she should say guys its actually illegal not to wear in the barbers. If she thought it was unsafe I guess she wouldn't have went in, even none of the staff had one

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Whilst I would never disregard anything this UK Government is capable of, why would they be holding "garden panties" and what the **** have you been googling if that indeed is a predictive text typo?

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[Jack]

If this was a staged event, in the barbers, with attendance by invitation only i.e. no general public allowed in would face masks be required?

[hibby rae]

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She wasn't just walking down the street then jumped in a random shop. She had a huge team with her and photogrophers, they would have talked before she walked in. She is going from person to person and getting videos without one. If it was a tory there would be fuming.

It is a nonsense but it's a nonsense she made the rules for, then extended after going to church without a mask. Having a cake on your birthday is no big deal, but if you decide the rules you should get done. If not everyone fined in the last two years should rip up their fines.

I've said repeatedly boris should walk, not for the cake but the lying to parliament. If more fines for parties come he should resign for that. NS shouldn't resign, but should take a fine or risk pissing off everyone fined.

The reply would be I doubt others got fined for not wearing a mask. But also no one will have got a fine for having a cake with staff. It doesn't matter, you make the rules stick by them

In the 6 month period from the second half of last year, only 1 fine was handed out for not wearing a mask. And that was probably an extreme case.

It's not whataboutery when saying the two instances can't be equated, it's stating a fact. People weren't upset because he had a cake for his birthday, it's the consistent disregard, contempt and deception that is the issue. They knew what they were doing was wrong, and didn't care.

You can't say people would have talked before etc. it's more than possible there would have been a slip-up, because human error does happen. I've done it when I go in the office, I've got up from my desk and I'm halfway down the corridor before I realise and we've had it drilled into us to wear them inside and I've already been wearing it.

Now if it turns out she's been at it the whole time and ignored people when they've told her, that would be different, but I would bet that is not the case.

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In the 6 month period from the second half of last year, only 1 fine was handed out for not wearing a mask. And that was probably an extreme case.

It's not whataboutery when saying the two instances can't be equated, it's stating a fact. People weren't upset because he had a cake for his birthday, it's the consistent disregard, contempt and deception that is the issue. They knew what they were doing was wrong, and didn't care.

You can't say people would have talked before etc. it's more than possible there would have been a slip-up, because human error does happen. I've done it when I go in the office, I've got up from my desk and I'm halfway down the corridor before I realise and we've had it drilled into us to wear them inside and I've already been wearing it.

Now if it turns out she's been at it the whole time and ignored people when they've told her, that would be different, but I would bet that is not the case.

But I said last week the cake in the office with workmates doesn't matter that much its the lying to parliament. That was absolutely hounded with everyone saying it does matter, he makes the rules he should get fined for them. Has to go both ways they must want her fined too. No one got fined for having a cake in the office either. Tories have been trawling twitter this week putting up screenshots from NHS staffs feeds of them having cake and nibbles during the pandemic, shocking patter sharing it.

I've always said the lying to parliament was the thing, but many on here said both was. Now if he gets more fines for parties ect, that's also different.

[500miles]

If Nicola Sturgeon forgot to put her mask on for a minute, it's pretty desperate straw clutching from the right wing. I've done it loads of times and not realised until I past the fruit and veg aisle in tesco. Never thought for a second I'd be due a fine for it.

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Don't believe she just forgot. Would have been a briefing before she went in with her staff and umpteen camera men. She was going between people without a masks taking selfies.

If they make the rules, why didn't she say to all the staff to wear a mask. Why did they stay in a small room with 10 people without a mask. Surely ask them to mask or call the police if its against the law. More likely when the cameras were ready to roll mask went on

[hibby rae]

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But I said last week the cake in the office with workmates doesn't matter that much its the lying to parliament. That was absolutely hounded with everyone saying it does matter, he makes the rules he should get fined for them. Has to go both ways they must want her fined too. No one got fined for having a cake in the office either. Tories have been trawling twitter this week putting up screenshots from NHS staffs feeds of them having cake and nibbles during the pandemic, shocking patter sharing it.

I've always said the lying to parliament was the thing, but many on here said both was. Now if he gets more fines for parties ect, that's also different.

But you're trying to make it seem what is probably a genuine mistake for a few seconds is the same as what the Tories have done. And it just isn't.

Even if it was just one incident each, Johnson had a party at a time when the pandemic was at it's most brutal stage (which is a very important point) and we know that that one party was part of a culture of rule breaking at No. 10. It seems to me that is the point people are making.

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But you're trying to make it seem what is probably a genuine mistake for a few seconds is the same as what the Tories have done. And it just isn't.

Even if it was just one incident each, Johnson had a party at a time when the pandemic was at it's most brutal stage (which is a very important point) and we know that that one party was part of a culture of rule breaking at No. 10. It seems to me that is the point people are making.

No I'm saying the ruling class need to stick by the rules they make and extend. No one got fined for not wearing a mask or having a birthday cake in the office. The tories acted despicably, loads should get the boot, especially boris for lying to parliament.

NS shouldn't quit obviously. But when she didn't wear a mask at the church service, then extended mask wearing. She's then jumping about a room with no one including staff wearing a mask.

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No I'm saying the ruling class need to stick by the rules they make and extend. No one got fined for not wearing a mask or having a birthday cake in the office. The tories acted despicably, loads should get the boot, especially boris for lying to parliament.

NS shouldn't quit obviously. But when she didn't wear a mask at the church service, then extended mask wearing. She's then jumping about a room with no one including staff wearing a mask.

And the evidence suggests she has followed the rules, bar two minor slips in a two year period. You can guarantee if it had been more than that we would know about it.

Masks are done now if you want them to be, and this is a non-story being used as a tool to defend/deflect from the actions of others.

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But I said last week the cake in the office with workmates doesn't matter that much its the lying to parliament. That was absolutely hounded with everyone saying it does matter, he makes the rules he should get fined for them. Has to go both ways they must want her fined too. No one got fined for having a cake in the office either. Tories have been trawling twitter this week putting up screenshots from NHS staffs feeds of them having cake and nibbles during the pandemic, shocking patter sharing it.

I've always said the lying to parliament was the thing, but many on here said both was. Now if he gets more fines for parties ect, that's also different.

You're completely ignoring the repeated offending at Downing St while you're trying to make your equivalence between Sturgeon's misdeed and Johnson's. His cake event was reported when it happened and people gave precisely zero *****. It's only since the repeated nature of the gatherings became widely known that anyone's been interested in it (including the police, who've surely only fined him £50 for that as a taster of much more to come).

It is the lying that's the thing, though, not whether or how many candles were on a ******* cake.

How long was it before Sturgeon put on a mask in the barber's? If it was less than nine minutes, let her off. If more than nine minutes, RESIGN!

[Stairway 2 7]

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You're completely ignoring the repeated offending at Downing St while you're trying to make your equivalence between Sturgeon's misdeed and Johnson's. His cake event was reported when it happened and people gave precisely zero *****. It's only since the repeated nature of the gatherings became widely known that anyone's been interested in it (including the police, who've surely only fined him £50 for that as a taster of much more to come).

It is the lying that's the thing, though, not whether or how many candles were on a ******* cake.

How long was it before Sturgeon put on a mask in the barber's? If it was less than nine minutes, let her off. If more than nine minutes, RESIGN!

Your ignoring that I said the tories that were involved should resign. Your also ignoring that when I said last week the cake didn't matter it was the lying, people were frothing saying the cake does matter.

[lapsedhibee]

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Your ignoring that I said the tories that were involved should resign. Your also ignoring that when I said last week the cake didn't matter it was the lying, people were frothing saying the cake does matter.

I know, the cake reference was about the general media and social media coverage, which has been predictably abysmal. Even now BBC is squeamish about suggesting that Johnson might have lied in Parliament. All the crap about 'inadvertently misleading the House' has been simply pathetic. Not sure that people on here were frothing about the cake.