SNP are lying b******s as well !

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Regardless of political allegiances, EVERYBODY needs to listen to Stevie C; he knows what has been/is happening.

If he contradicts someone's view, then I know who I believe. I can't imagine that GG meant to call him a moon howler and an a**e, but he disagrees with him, so maybe he did?

[JeMeSouviens]

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Regardless of political allegiances, EVERYBODY needs to listen to Stevie C; he knows what has been/is happening.

If he contradicts someone's view, then I know who I believe. I can't imagine that GG meant to call him a moon howler and an a**e, but he disagrees with him, so maybe he did?

iirc, Stevie is an SNP member. I can't imagine he's going to appear on GG's xmas card list!

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I kind of see where you are coming from by the letter of the apparent law here but really cannot see that our Home secretary has done anything proactive here, or generally at all.

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Politicians from all sides of the House were full of praise for her in the Commons.

If you search online there's plenty of positive stuff about it, but it might mean you reading positive stories about a Tory so tread carefully!

You'll not read about it on here or in the Guardian though, only bad things the gov does are allowed.

[hibsbollah]

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Politicians from all sides of the House were full of praise for her in the Commons.

If you search online there's plenty of positive stuff about it, but it might mean you reading positive stories about a Tory so tread carefully!

You'll not read about it on here or in the Guardian though, only bad things the gov does are allowed.

And she’s a secret hun, according to the Manchester Evening News?
My favourite Truss story, tops even Cheese and Pork Markets.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/top-tory-liz-truss-filmed-21774565.amp

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Politicians from all sides of the House were full of praise for her in the Commons.

If you search online there's plenty of positive stuff about it, but it might mean you reading positive stories about a Tory so tread carefully!

You'll not read about it on here or in the Guardian though, only bad things the gov does are allowed.

Not going to fall out with you on this one
I don't by Newspapers or subscribe to the guardian


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Politicians from all sides of the House were full of praise for her in the Commons.

Politicians from all sides of the House were full of praise for the Home Secretary? Link please, I've completely missed that.

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Hi

Firstly , there is no way the UK gov could move those children to the UK without Ukrainian Gov consent.
As orphans they will be the responsibility of the Ukrainian State.

Now if someone could obtain a copy of this permission and its dated 10 days ago , then Patel and Co are to blame.

If on the other hand permission only came through yesterday, the the moon- howlers on here have made ar**s of themselves once again.

Isn't it strange then, that loads of other countries have managed to take in thousands of Ukrainian refugees. If it was the Ukrainians holding things up, then why were they only stopping them coming to the UK?

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[WhileTheChief..]

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Politicians from all sides of the House were full of praise for the Home Secretary? Link please, I've completely missed that.

It was in the Commons when she announced the news. Not sure how to find a link but I'm sure you'll manage to find it if you look!!

It was on every news channel though, dunno how you missed it.

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And she’s a secret hun, according to the Manchester Evening News?
My favourite Truss story, tops even Cheese and Pork Markets.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co...d-21774565.amp

That's a belter!!

Didn't realise she was a gay Tory. Whatever next

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Not going to fall out with you on this one
I don't by Newspapers or subscribe to the guardian


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I'm no fan of hers, but credit where it's due.

She got the job done though, which is the most important point in all of this. I'm pretty sure we all agree on that.

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It was in the Commons when she announced the news. Not sure how to find a link but I'm sure you'll manage to find it if you look!!

It was on every news channel though, dunno how you missed it.

First thing that comes up, a story two hours old, is Tories complaining about her. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2038961.html

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Sorry, my mistake, I thought we were talking about Liz Truss.

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Isn't it strange then, that loads of other countries have managed to take in thousands of Ukrainian refugees. If it was the Ukrainians holding things up, then why were they only stopping them coming to the UK?

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Humanitarian reasons? 😉

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Regardless of political allegiances, EVERYBODY needs to listen to Stevie C; he knows what has been/is happening.

If he contradicts someone's view, then I know who I believe. I can't imagine that GG meant to call him a moon howler and an a**e, but he disagrees with him, so maybe he did?

Of of course I wasn’t referring to Stevie C

I was referring to the half dozen or so posters on here who turn virtually every thread into some kind of UK gov bashing thread.

As far as I can see from Stevie C’s posts , he’s never joined that club , so to suggest I included him was false.

However who caused the delay might or might not come out one day, but let’s all just be happy that the kids are here and safe.

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Of of course I wasn’t referring to Stevie C

I was referring to the half dozen or so posters on here who turn virtually every thread into some kind of UK gov bashing thread.

As far as I can see from Stevie C’s posts , he’s never joined that club , so to suggest I included him was false.

However who caused the delay might or might not come out one day, but let’s all just be happy that the kids are here and safe.

Never crossed my mind that you were.

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Sorry, my mistake, I thought we were talking about Liz Truss.

Oh, her. How some leftie wags are characterising that is

"Will you pay the £400million to free Radcliffe?"

Johnson: No
Hunt: No
Raab: No
Truss: Ok then

Were politicians of all hues really saying she'd played a blinder, or just welcoming the overdue release? I didn't see the announcement live.

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Of of course I wasn’t referring to Stevie C

I was referring to the half dozen or so posters on here who turn virtually every thread into some kind of UK gov bashing thread.

As far as I can see from Stevie C’s posts , he’s never joined that club , so to suggest I included him was false.

However who caused the delay might or might not come out one day, but let’s all just be happy that the kids are here and safe.

I’m with the 1/2 dozen or so moon howlers & erses every time V the tories or greenginger, frankly imo screamin Lord Sutch was vastly superior at politics than any of this current lot & I think he grasped the ins & outs better also, because the Planet he was coming from actually was closer to our Planet here than greenginge/patel/Johnson’s etc.

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Isn't it strange then, that loads of other countries have managed to take in thousands of Ukrainian refugees. If it was the Ukrainians holding things up, then why were they only stopping them coming to the UK?

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Yes it is unusual the UK seems to be the only country that the Ukrainians would have an issue with their citizens fleeing war going to.

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Yes it is unusual the UK seems to be the only country that the Ukrainians would have an issue with their citizens fleeing war going to.

Maybe all the other countries didn't have all those folk howling at the moon we keep hearing about, so you can surely understand why the Ukrainian government would want to see refugees fleeing for their lives to go there first?

Especially if, as has been pointed out, the Ukrainian government seemed to have a need to pre approve / delay entry into other apparent places of safety.



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Humanitarian reasons?

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Not sure which of the SNP threads this belongs on but I think that no matter how strong anyone's allegiance to te Scottish government, most would agree this is a screw-up of hefty (and clearly ongoing) proportions:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-60837254

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Not sure which of the SNP threads this belongs on but I think that no matter how strong anyone's allegiance to te Scottish government, most would agree this is a screw-up of hefty (and clearly ongoing) proportions:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-60837254

There should be a full enquiry into that and if criminality is found people should go to jail. If its just incompetence the people should be sacked and named.



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Not sure which of the SNP threads this belongs on but I think that no matter how strong anyone's allegiance to te Scottish government, most would agree this is a screw-up of hefty (and clearly ongoing) proportions:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-60837254

No dressing that up, that is ****ing ridiculous.

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No dressing that up, that is ****ing ridiculous.

What a f up, seeing Salmond's face right in the middle of it does help the PR either.

Right up there with Grayling spending money on boats that didnt exist.

https://www.politicshome.com/news/ar...ith-no-ferries

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No dressing that up, that is ****ing ridiculous.

Yup, they should really go to town on f-ups like that.......

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[Ozyhibby]

I agree with this. The govt shouldn’t be getting into the ship building industry or trying to run airports. So far, they haven’t managed to make either viable businesses.


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I agree with this. The govt shouldn’t be getting into the ship building industry or trying to run airports. So far, they haven’t managed to make either viable businesses.


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I'm starting to get nervous about them running the ScotRail franchise now. A lot of chat about services & station facilities being reduced/slashed.

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I'm starting to get nervous about them running the ScotRail franchise now. A lot of chat about services & station facilities being reduced/slashed.

Got to agree with this. It's got impending disaster written all over it.

I think the Calmac and Prestwick things are ultimately well meaning attempts to save jobs, but Scotgov must take some lessons from how badly they've turned out and that cutting corners, however well intentioned, is not a good thing when you're using public money.

[weecounty hibby]

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Got to agree with this. It's got impending disaster written all over it.

I think the Calmac and Prestwick things are ultimately well meaning attempts to save jobs, but Scotgov must take some lessons from how badly they've turned out and that cutting corners, however well intentioned, is not a good thing when you're using public money.

100% correct. Both were the right thing to do at the time, just been badly managed. I don't necessarily think we need to privatise them again as in principle I have no issues with publicly owned industry. The government needs to learn from these on how to run a nationalised industry. They should also take lessons from the publicly owned Scottish Water which generally seems to be ok, not without issues but ok

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100% correct. Both were the right thing to do at the time, just been badly managed. I don't necessarily think we need to privatise them again as in principle I have no issues with publicly owned industry. The government needs to learn from these on how to run a nationalised industry. They should also take lessons from the publicly owned Scottish Water which generally seems to be ok, not without issues but ok

These aren’t nationalised industries though, they are nationalised companies that are competing with private companies. In the case of Prestwick, there is a reason it needed saving. It’s an airport that is too far away from any population centres and it’s competing with two bigger airports in the two biggest population centres in Scotland. If it’s problems were only short term then it would have been sold by now. As for Ferguson Marine, it looks like we have saved a shipyard that can’t build boats. We’re those jobs worth saving? Thankfully we seem to have learned a lesson there and the latest order for ferries went to somewhere that can.
Scotrail is a bit different in that it’s a natural monopoly so it’s possible to run it properly but it needs done at arms length from govt. There are plenty example of nationalised railways done properly but they all need govt subsidy of one form or another.


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