SNP are lying b******s as well !

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Don’t think that’s quite accurate .

Well, bring about a no confidence motion and you can force them to reveal this legal advice as well.


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Well, bring about a no confidence motion and you can force them to reveal this legal advice as well.


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No need to , it’s obvious the advice was negative.

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Don’t think that’s quite accurate .

There isn't an inquiry or a legal case around the referendum bill so they have no need to publish it.

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No need to , it’s obvious the advice was negative.

There you go then. What’s the problem?


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There you go then. What’s the problem?


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That seems to have cleared that up then

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The problem is theScottish Government is pressing ahead with plans for a new indyref.

This is no doubt cost us tax payers , and if they have been told holding their own indyref was not within the powers of the Scottish assemble, there could be big problems.

If Nicola’s paying for this planning out her own purse or the SNP are using their own funds fair enough, but I’m sure it’s us tax payers who will pay for the SNP’s illegal posturing.

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The problem is theScottish Government is pressing ahead with plans for a new indyref.

This is no doubt cost us tax payers , and if they have been told holding their own indyref was not within the powers of the Scottish assemble, there could be big problems.

If Nicola’s paying for this planning out her own purse or the SNP are using their own funds fair enough, but I’m sure it’s us tax payers who will pay for the SNP’s illegal posturing.

Us tax payers instructed her to proceed with this, that why we elected a pro independence government.

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Us tax payers instructed her to proceed with this, that why we elected a pro independence government.

Yeah but they don't have a super dooper ultra majority so that's doesnt count

Or something

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Us tax payers instructed her to proceed with this, that why we elected a pro independence government.

There were fewer votes for the independence parties than the unionist parties in Scotland at the last General Election.

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There were fewer votes for the independence parties than the unionist parties in Scotland at the last General Election.

That doesn't matter a jot.

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There were fewer votes for the independence parties than the unionist parties in Scotland at the last General Election.

Nevertheless, there's a pro-indy majority of MSPs in the Parliament. That must be really annoying, eh?

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That doesn't matter a jot.

only if you are undemocratic...

Just look at all the hoops being jumped through, the twists and turns etc in support of Brexit... that's not even taking onto account we ended up with a much harder version than the vote had decided on.

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There were fewer votes for the independence parties than the unionist parties in Scotland at the last General Election.

Actually, on the party list vote, a majority voted for Indy parties.


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There were fewer votes for the independence parties than the unionist parties in Scotland at the last General Election.

That might actually mean something if all Lib Dem and Labour voters were pro union.

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Nevertheless, there's a pro-indy majority of MSPs in the Parliament. That must be really annoying, eh?

Not really as any indyref that might take place one day will be decided on overall votes.

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Not really as any indyref that might take place one day will be decided on overall votes.

Well what are you worried about then?

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Actually, on the party list vote, a majority voted for Indy parties.


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Second vote counts for nothing. You only get one vote in a referendum.

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Well what are you worried about then?

Worried , who’s worried , I ain’t been worried since 21/5/2016 90+2 to final whistle

I just don’t think tax payers money should be spent on what’s looks like an illegal program .

[Jack]

How much is Gove and his departments spending on his role as defender of the union?

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The problem is theScottish Government is pressing ahead with plans for a new indyref.

This is no doubt cost us tax payers , and if they have been told holding their own indyref was not within the powers of the Scottish assemble, there could be big problems.

If Nicola’s paying for this planning out her own purse or the SNP are using their own funds fair enough, but I’m sure it’s us tax payers who will pay for the SNP’s illegal posturing.

Can you tell me more about the Scottish assembly?

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There were fewer votes for the independence parties than the unionist parties in Scotland at the last General Election.

Not true. I know it wasn't huge, but all votes taken together, even accounting for the unionist tactical voting, the pro independence parties had around 40,000 majority.

Don't believe me? No worries I'll check the spreadsheet I did at the time. 😉

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There were fewer votes for the independence parties than the unionist parties in Scotland at the last General Election.

If Scotland didnae have something like 20 or 30ish percent total balloons who vote for UJ flag due to they’re thick supportin sevco & poppy theives a very different picture would be painted.

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Not true. I know it wasn't huge, but all votes taken together, even accounting for the unionist tactical voting, the pro independence parties had around 40,000 majority.

Don't believe me? No worries I'll check the spreadsheet I did at the time. 😉

Thats counting two votes each , yeah ?

A lot of second votes going to Greens from virtue signalling voters who obviously never read the small print in their manifesto .

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Thats counting two votes each , yeah ?

A lot of second votes going to Greens from virtue signalling voters who obviously never read the small print in their manifesto .

You do realise you make yourself and your already very much toiling argument look dafter by desperately trying to twist things into your terms, rather than just backing down when proved wrong?

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You do realise you make yourself and your already very much toiling argument look dafter by desperately trying to twist things into your terms, rather than just backing down when proved wrong?

Who has been proved wrong .

I said there here were more votes for Unionist parties than Indy parties at the last election.

First votes only as you don’t get two votes in a referendum.

The figures are , Lib Dem’s, Labour, and conservative. 50.4 % of votes cast.

SNP and Greens 49 % of votes cast.

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Who has been proved wrong .

I said there here were more votes for Unionist parties than Indy parties at the last election.

First votes only as you don’t get two votes in a referendum.

The figures are , Lib Dem’s, Labour, and conservative. 50.4 % of votes cast.

SNP and Greens 49 % of votes cast.

If you don't like the results based on the system in place then just ignore them and make up some other arbitrary method of determining the validity of government.

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Who has been proved wrong .

I said there here were more votes for Unionist parties than Indy parties at the last election.

First votes only as you don’t get two votes in a referendum.

The figures are , Lib Dem’s, Labour, and conservative. 50.4 % of votes cast.

SNP and Greens 49 % of votes cast.

There isn’t a first vote or second vote. There are two votes for two different things. There is a vote for an individual who you would like to represent you and then there is a vote for a party you align with.
More people aligned with Indy parties.


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There isn’t a first vote or second vote. There are two votes for two different things. There is a vote for an individual who you would like to represent you and then there is a vote for a party you align with.
More people aligned with Indy parties.


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They are described in official documents as first and second votes ( see para 5 )

Do you really think someone who voted for labour, lib-dem, or conservative in the first vote and greens in the second vote are Indy supporters ?

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They are described in official documents as first and second votes ( see para 5 )

Do you really think someone who voted for labour, lib-dem, or conservative in the first vote and greens in the second vote are Indy supporters ?

My mum and dad did and are

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Who has been proved wrong .

I said there here were more votes for Unionist parties than Indy parties at the last election.

First votes only as you don’t get two votes in a referendum.

The figures are , Lib Dem’s, Labour, and conservative. 50.4 % of votes cast.

SNP and Greens 49 % of votes cast.

What I did was divide the total votes by 2 to take account of this. Unionists lost 😉