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[The Modfather]

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Think its obvious now how lucky he was in the cup runs, and how dreadful he is over a 38 game season. Hes won 15 league games, out of 64.

Davidson may or may not be a good manager, but it’s churlish to attribute St Johnstone doing a cup double to luck. All cup runs have luck along the way but it’s possible to credit the unique achievement as well as question the league record. Although I imagine winning both cups will have had a sizeable impact on league performance last season, as we saw with Stubbs.

[MWHIBBIES]

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Ah yes that famous lucky 3-0 win 🥴

We did miss an absolute hatfull of chances early on, hitting the woodwork twice. Was that Davidsons tactics? We lost, fair and square, but it doesn't make St Johnstone world beaters. As I've said, the net was protected by magic in thier cup runs. The chances St Mirren missed were insane in the SC semi, then middleton scored a random free kick from 25 yards that the St Mirren goalie didn't even try for. More tactical genius there...not.

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So because their goalie scored in the last minute against Rangers it means it's lucky? You do realise that they had to play the entire game up until that point. And if that was Hibs, we'd undoubtedly be saying it was an iconic moment on our way to winning the cup.

Yes, and they got absolutely battered for 120 minutes by a Rangers team that was beating everyone. Of course its an iconic moment. Lucky and iconic are not mutally exclusive.

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Doesn’t almost every cup win, including our two most recent ones, have their fair share of riding luck/penalty shootouts etc?

I think Davidson and his team deserve a great deal of credit for what was an outstanding achievement.

Of course they do. Thats my point, he got very lucky. Over a season, that luck evens itself out and hes just a rubbish manager. 15 wins in 64 is absolutely dreadful. Will be sacked if Dundee get a few results (which is very unlikely, McGee is even worse)

[Moulin Yarns]

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Do you not? He certainly did.

Hibs missing loads of chances in the league cup semi, goalie scoring last minute vs Rangers, St Mirren missing loads of chances Scottish cup semi, 2 penalty shootout wins on the way etc.

St Johnstone were crap. We have too high an opinion of them because we were their victims. The stars truely alligned for them in the cups. The chances the opposition missed against them on the way to winning those cups were unreal, like the net was protected by magic. He was never any kind of tactical genius.

Zander Clarke did not score against the Rangers!

[MWHIBBIES]

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Zander Clarke did not score against the Rangers!

Right enough, it was going wide and went in off the defender right? or the striker? Nothing fortunate at all

[Since90+2]

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We did miss an absolute hatfull of chances early on, hitting the woodwork twice. Was that Davidsons tactics? We lost, fair and square, but it doesn't make St Johnstone world beaters. As I've said, the net was protected by magic in thier cup runs. The chances St Mirren missed were insane in the SC semi, then middleton scored a random free kick from 25 yards that the St Mirren goalie didn't even try for. More tactical genius there...not.



Yes, and they got absolutely battered for 120 minutes by a Rangers team that was beating everyone. Of course its an iconic moment. Lucky and iconic are not mutally exclusive.



Of course they do. Thats my point, he got very lucky. Over a season, that luck evens itself out and hes just a rubbish manager. 15 wins in 64 is absolutely dreadful. Will be sacked if Dundee get a few results (which is very unlikely, McGee is even worse)

So let me get this right, St Johnstone were lucky when pumping us 3-0 and also lucky when knocking out Rangers (the best Rangers team for atleast 10 years) at Ibrox on their way to doing something unheard of outside the old firm and winning both cups in the same season.

Nothing to do with them being an excellent cup team. All luck.

[MWHIBBIES]

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So let me get this right, St Johnstone were lucky when pumping us 3-0 and also lucky when knocking out Rangers (the best Rangers team for atleast 10 years) at Ibrox on their way to doing something unheard of outside the old firm and winning both cups in the same season.

Nothing to do with them being an excellent cup team. All luck.

No, not all luck. Massive amounts of it.

They play the same teams in the cup as they do in the league. Why are they absolutely gash in the league? Why are they already out of this years Scottish cup to a part time side?

[Allant1981]

Goodwin confirmed this morning officially as aberdeen manager

[The Modfather]

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No, not all luck. Massive amounts of it.

They play the same teams in the cup as they do in the league. Why are they absolutely gash in the league? Why are they already out of this years Scottish cup to a part time side?

Unlucky

[Since90+2]

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Unlucky

Literally laughed out loud at this.

[JimBHibees]

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So let me get this right, St Johnstone were lucky when pumping us 3-0 and also lucky when knocking out Rangers (the best Rangers team for atleast 10 years) at Ibrox on their way to doing something unheard of outside the old firm and winning both cups in the same season.

Nothing to do with them being an excellent cup team. All luck.

Clearly an excellent cup team as you say nothing lucky about a 3 0 hammering and a very comfortable cup final where we never laid a glove on them and missed a penalty. Only team to beat Rangers at Ibrox also. Got to remember they have lost their two best players and with their most creative out injured for the season however there is no getting away from it they have been poor this season. Davidson had them well organised last season and also very motivated which was a key difference in the final imo.

[MWHIBBIES]

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Unlucky

Perhaps, yeah. Although luck isn't as impactful over 64 games as it is over 6.

[Unseen work]

Goodwin is a good appointment for them imo, think they’ll now be in for a really good shot of 4th this season as hell get them organised and showing a bit of passion.

Makes you wonder where we’ll sign players from now 😅 two I thought we’d be interested in Conor McCarthy and Conor Ronan will likely end up at Aberdeen now.

[Danderhall Hibs]

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Goodwin is a good appointment for them imo, think they’ll now be in for a really good shot of 4th this season as hell get them organised and showing a bit of passion.

Makes you wonder where we’ll sign players from now 😅 two I thought we’d be interested in Conor McCarthy and Conor Ronan will likely end up at Aberdeen now.

And will Aberdeen still be interested in every player we look at?

[Danderhall Hibs]

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Clearly an excellent cup team as you say nothing lucky about a 3 0 hammering and a very comfortable cup final where we never laid a glove on them and missed a penalty. Only team to beat Rangers at Ibrox also. Got to remember they have lost their two best players and with their most creative out injured for the season however there is no getting away from it they have been poor this season. Davidson had them well organised last season and also very motivated which was a key difference in the final imo.

They were fortunate in the semi - we had chances and didn’t take them. They took everyone of theirs.

[Smartie]

Of course St Johnstone carried a bit of luck along the way (as we did with our Scottish Cup win) but they were an excellent cup side who played to their strengths.

The reason they’re struggling this season is because they’ve toiled to adequately and immediately replace McCann and Kerr on their budget, which would be a tall order for any manager.

How many years are we down the line of trying to replace the McGinn midfield? Does the fact that this far we’ve struggled mean that all our managers have been crap?

[JimBHibees]

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They were fortunate in the semi - we had chances and didn’t take them. They took everyone of theirs.

They did ride their luck first half but were 3 nil up after an hour and coasted it so difficult to say they weren't hugely comfortable winners.

[Paulie Walnuts]

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He only had from November to March in his first season and I think we were 6th before getting moved down due to the early finish to the league. Also I think we were 5th when he left.

Coupled with his cup record his stats overall were good.

We were 8th im sure when he took over. We finished that season 7th despite him taking over in November. It was certainly an improvement from Hecky but nothing out of this world.

And we were 7th this season when he was binned. Ross had 1 good season, 1 average one and 1 poor one imo.

[Moulin Yarns]

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We were 8th im sure when he took over. We finished that season 7th despite him taking over in November. It was certainly an improvement from Hecky but nothing out of this world.

And we were 7th this season when he was binned. Ross had 1 good season, 1 average one and 1 poor one imo.

We were 5th when Ross left. We have been 5th since December, only dropped to 7th after our visit to Ibrox on the 10th of February.

[Paulie Walnuts]

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We were 5th when Ross left. We have been 5th since December, only dropped to 7th after our visit to Ibrox on the 10th of February.

Are you sure that’s not 5th when Maloney took over?

I’m fairly certain we were 7th when Ross got sacked but happy to stand corrected.

[Moulin Yarns]

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Are you sure that’s not 5th when Maloney took over?

I’m fairly certain we were 7th when Ross got sacked but happy to stand corrected.

Apologies, yes we were 7th after defeat at livingston, sacked after that.

[04Sauzee]

Steven Naismith linked with the St Mirren post

[The 90+2]

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Steven Naismith linked with the St Mirren post

I think Thommo will get it.

[04Sauzee]

Steven Naismith 'granted permission' by Hearts to speak with St Mirren over manager's role

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[greenginger]

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Steven Naismith 'granted permission' by Hearts to speak with St Mirren over manager's role

https://t.co/Vtr5jPcfUh https://t.co/lS1un02JEC

Or maybe diving coach

[Billy Whizz]

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Steven Naismith 'granted permission' by Hearts to speak with St Mirren over manager's role

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If he gets the gig, they are at home to St Mirren on Saturday

[Allant1981]

Jack ross rejected the job offer at st mirren apparently

[hibbyfraelibby]

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Jack ross rejected the job offer at st mirren apparently

Only after he knew he wasn't on the short list😉 Too far a commute anyhow.

He's also missed out on another former team as Brian Rice is appointed Alloa manager.

4 vacancies in one week and he's not been officially quoted for one of them. Tells you some thing. He's comfy on his gardening pay and a salary cut isn't on his radar.

[MWHIBBIES]

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Only after he knew he wasn't on the short list😉 Too far a commute anyhow.

He's also missed out on another former team as Brian Rice is appointed Alloa manager.

4 vacancies in one week and he's not been officially quoted for one of them. Tells you some thing. He's comfy on his gardening pay and a salary cut isn't on his radar.

Or maybe those projects don't interest him?

[hibbyfraelibby]

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Or maybe those projects don't interest him?

3 Premiership roles? Not interested?

There are 12 teams in the SPFL Premiership.

He wouldn't get near the uglies jobs, he got booted from one of the next group containing the three next best jobs, wasn't quoted for another one, and is apparently personna non grata at the pink bus shelter, even with Neilson on the ropes. The next group of wannabes he's not being quoted on the two that were/are uo for grabs.

He's unlikely ever to get a top league gig in Scotland again, especially if he's briefing out no -interest in the less glamorous jobs.

[The 90+2]

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Only after he knew he wasn't on the short list😉 Too far a commute anyhow.

He's also missed out on another former team as Brian Rice is appointed Alloa manager.

4 vacancies in one week and he's not been officially quoted for one of them. Tells you some thing. He's comfy on his gardening pay and a salary cut isn't on his radar.

He didn't need to be on any shortlist. He was offered the job.