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    Does a team normally issue a statement to let their fans know they are in talks with a named manager?

    Club Statement | Managerial Update

    🔴 The Club confirms it has been given permission by St Mirren FC to talk to its manager, Jim Goodwin, regarding the vacant managerial position.

    🔴 We will make a formal announcement when the process to secure a new manager is complete. https://t.co/HA6hF9UJqr
    Must be a done deal if they are putting that out.


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    Think Goodwin will be a good appointment for Aberdeen. I’d ideally have liked him to still potentially be an option for us going forward, but I’d rather they appointed him than JR.

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    Was the obvious choice.

    Not sure he’s that great tbh. He’s on a decent run just now but he’s also been on smelling runs as well.

    Wouldn’t be too fussed either way if I was an Aberdeen fan although having seen claims they approached the Bodo/Glimt manager I couldn’t help but feel this was a huge drop in standard.
    Every manager in the world goes on good runs and bad runs, it’s just how it works. They key is having many more good than bad.

    Management is unbelievably tough these days, as the press and social media constantly remind the world of your latest failure, and that’s what defines you - even if you’ve a really good track record.

    McInnes at Aberdeen was unbelievably consistent, Dons fans would have given up limbs to have the nine years that they had before he was appointed.

    On top of that, he turned down approaches from the likes of Rangers and Sunderland. Yet one bad run and he was out the door - even though they were nine points clear in 4th at the time.

    Fans often bemoan a lack of loyalty in football, but they simultaneously create a climate that ensures that any manager performing well will immediately jump at any better offer that comes along.

    Aberdeen will find that out, and I suspect we will too.
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    Think Goodwin will be a good appointment for Aberdeen. I’d ideally have liked him to still potentially be an option for us going forward, but I’d rather they appointed him than JR.
    I'm delighted they've gone for Goodwin insted of Ross. I think Goodwin will do well for them and i rate him but i think Jack would have done better.

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    I'm delighted they've gone for Goodwin insted of Ross. I think Goodwin will do well for them and i rate him but i think Jack would have done better.
    Agree with that. Goodwin decent though - will do well

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    Aberdeen are daft going for Goodwin instead. It smacks flavor of the month and little else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevie Reid View Post
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    Think Goodwin will be a good appointment for Aberdeen. I’d ideally have liked him to still potentially be an option for us going forward, but I’d rather they appointed him than JR.

    Jack might prove a thorn in our side at St Mirren too!

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    I'm delighted they've gone for Goodwin insted of Ross. I think Goodwin will do well for them and i rate him but i think Jack would have done better.
    I agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacomo View Post
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    Jack might prove a thorn in our side at St Mirren too!
    That would seem like a logical next step for Ross.

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    Jack might prove a thorn in our side at St Mirren too!
    Goodwin has left a good side. Good solid foundations for the next guy. Ross might not want to go back the way but would be an excellent job to get back into it. An outside bet for a European place. He'd be daft not to take it if it was on offer.

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    Mark McGhee new Dundee manager?? When did he last manage a club??


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    BEFORE he got the Aberdeen gig😉

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    Aberdeen are daft going for Goodwin instead. It smacks flavor of the month and little else.
    Depends how you look at it.

    They sacked a highly successful manager in McInnes with a much better track record than Jack Ross because their fans thought his football was crap and they’d got bored of it.

    To then go and get a manager who was heavily criticised for his style of play at his last club but without such a good track record wouldn’t have went down very well with their fans I wouldn’t think. Rightly or wrongly, they’d just look at him as a lesser McInnes.
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    I'm delighted they've gone for Goodwin insted of Ross. I think Goodwin will do well for them and i rate him but i think Jack would have done better.
    Being available, and interested in the job, but them going for Goodwin is another blow for Ross IMO. I thought he was a cert for it, must be a cert for St Mirren now though.

    Don’t think he’ll get a bigger job than the ones he’s had in Scotland or England.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibbyfraelibby View Post
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    BEFORE he got the Aberdeen gig



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    Quote Originally Posted by Stubbsy90+2 View Post
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    Depends how you look at it.

    They sacked a highly successful manager in McInnes with a much better track record than Jack Ross because their fans thought his football was crap and they’d got bored of it.

    To then go and get a manager who was heavily criticised for his style of play at his last club but without such a good track record wouldn’t have went down very well with their fans I wouldn’t think. Rightly or wrongly, they’d just look at him as a lesser McInnes.
    How has McIness got a much better track record?

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    How has McIness got a much better track record?
    How does he not?

    Ross finished 7th, 3rd then left us in 7th. He never won anything and has a lower PPG average by a decent bit and a lower win percentage by a decent bit compared to McInnes. His teams also had a better goal difference over his whole tenure than JR did at Hibs.. That’s despite the fact McInnes managed nearly 4 times the amount of games JR did.

    The job McInnes done at Aberdeen and the job Ross done at Hibs aren’t even close. McInnes wins that hands down. His worst finish was 7th in a season where he was in the job a month. Other than that he never finished below 4th. He was even sacked in 4th if I remember correctly.

    McInnes’ record beats JR in pretty much every measure I can think of and a lot of them fairly comfortably.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The 90+2 View Post
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    How has McIness got a much better track record?
    Much better league finishes over a decent number of years

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stubbsy90+2 View Post
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    How does he not?

    Ross finished 7th, 3rd then left us in 7th. He never won anything and has a lower PPG average by a decent bit and a lower win percentage by a decent bit compared to McInnes. His teams also had a better goal difference over his whole tenure than JR did at Hibs.. That’s despite the fact McInnes managed nearly 4 times the amount of games JR did.

    The job McInnes done at Aberdeen and the job Ross done at Hibs aren’t even close. McInnes wins that hands down. His worst finish was 7th in a season where he was in the job a month. Other than that he never finished below 4th. He was even sacked in 4th if I remember correctly.

    McInnes’ record beats JR in pretty much every measure I can think of and a lot of them fairly comfortably.
    McIness was in the job a lot longer though.

    Ross got Alloa then St Mirren promoted, took over us bottom of the table and eventually got us third and numerous cup semi finals and final.

    The last season they where both managers of the sides JR had us finish 3rd, McIness was sacked.

    I would much rather employ Ross than DM. It's why DM is now at Kilmarnock and Ross is turning jobs down in the league above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimBHibees View Post
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    Much better league finishes over a decent number of years
    He was in the league a lot longer.

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    McIness was in the job a lot longer though.

    Ross got Alloa then St Mirren promoted, took over us bottom of the table and eventually got us third and numerous cup semi finals and final.

    The last season they where both managers of the sides JR had us finish 3rd, McIness was sacked.

    I would much rather employ Ross than DM. It's why DM is now at Kilmarnock and Ross is turning jobs down in the league above.
    Doing it over 7 seasons or whatever it was for DM just makes it even more impressive. Ross didn’t manage to maintain his good form for more than 1.

    I’m not sure Aberdeen fans would be harking back to jobs he done in the lower leagues 5 years ago or the fact he got to cup semis/finals and lost them. They’d be looking at the most recent job he done at Hibs, a similar sized job to theirs, the fact that a lot of fans hated his style of football and comparing it to McInnes at them. He doesn’t come out favourably in that regard.

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    The managerial merry-go-round chunters on. What unimaginative appointments by the famous Aberdeen FC and by Dundee too.

    At least we went outside the envelope a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stubbsy90+2 View Post
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    Doing it over 7 seasons or whatever it was for DM just makes it even more impressive. Ross didn’t manage to maintain his good form for more than 1.

    I’m not sure Aberdeen fans would be harking back to jobs he done in the lower leagues 5 years ago or the fact he got to cup semis/finals and lost them. They’d be looking at the most recent job he done at Hibs, a similar sized job to theirs, the fact that a lot of fans hated his style of football and comparing it to McInnes at them. He doesn’t come out favourably in that regard.
    He took Alloa from L1 to top of the Championship, took over St Mirren in the Championship relegation spot and then won the league with them.

    Ross had Hibs easily above Aberdeen, even at the time he got sacked ahead of them and in another final. They also sacked DM far too soon.
    Goodwin has been no bad for a couple of months, is he an upgrade on DM or a better choice than Jack? I don't think so.

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    He took Alloa from L1 to top of the Championship, took over St Mirren in the Championship relegation spot and then won the league with them.

    Ross had Hibs easily above Aberdeen, even at the time he got sacked ahead of them and in another final. They also sacked DM far too soon.
    Goodwin has been no bad for a couple of months, is he an upgrade on DM or a better choice than Jack? I don't think so.
    He did. That was a while ago though and he’s since been sacked from his last two jobs at clubs with much higher expectations than those two. Jobs that are a lot more similar to the Aberdeen job. Both times the fans of those teams thought his football was crap as well which is really what McInnes got sacked for.

    I don’t think Goodwin is an upgrade on either of them either, I don’t think he’s anything special for them appointment wise. I don’t think JR would have been either though. If I was an Aberdeen fan I’d be not be massively excited whether it had been Goodwin or JR.

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    Jim goodwin will be a top class manager I personally think he will leave Aberdeen for a big job down south I think he will do really well there.

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    He did. That was a while ago though and he’s since been sacked from his last two jobs at clubs with much higher expectations than those two. Jobs that are a lot more similar to the Aberdeen job. Both times the fans of those teams thought his football was crap as well which is really what McInnes got sacked for.

    I don’t think Goodwin is an upgrade on either of them either, I don’t think he’s anything special for them appointment wise. I don’t think JR would have been either though. If I was an Aberdeen fan I’d be not be massively excited whether it had been Goodwin or JR.

    If you where an Aberdeen fan would you be happier with Goodwin, McIness, Ross or Maloney?

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    If you where an Aberdeen fan would you be happier with Goodwin, McIness, Ross or Maloney?
    Maloney every day of the week for the exact same reasons I’m glad we have him at Hibs than any of the other 3.
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    If you where an Aberdeen fan would you be happier with Goodwin, McIness, Ross or Maloney?
    They weren’t happy with McIness and didn’t seem particularly taken by the prospect of Ross or Goodwin. On the back of Glass, the probably wouldn’t be happy with a Maloney type appointment either.

    Sheep are generally never happy.

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    Maloney every day of the week for the exact same reasons I’m glad we have him at Hibs than any of the other 3.

    Fair enough. No idea how you get that conclusion but your opinion mate.

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    i think Jim Goodwin will do a decent job for them

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    They weren’t happy with McIness and didn’t seem particularly taken by the prospect of Ross or Goodwin. On the back of Glass, the probably wouldn’t be happy with a Maloney type appointment either.

    Sheep are generally never happy.
    I blame Prof. Wilmut, since he got involved they are all miserable clones of each other.

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