Shaun Maloney - Style of play

[Sir David Gray]

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LD understood the parochial nature of Scottish football but was also successful and adept at 'feeling the room'.

Just don't get that with the new CEO - he's a money maker and has not 'got' the Scottish football or Hibs vibe. Not impressed with Ron Gordon either I have to be honest - everything I hear about him is money orientated and not team orientated. Something I've posted about previously so not knee jerk to today.

Agree with this.

[silverhibee]

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Paul McGinn certainly is good enough. Was brilliant last season in a good Hibs side so the idea he's never been good enough is factually incorrect.

Hanlon still being relied on because he's excellent. Lewis is still decent. Hard to disagree otherwise.

All in your opinion, others see it differently, Hanlon costs us goal nowadays with his slow movement, McGinn is not good enough for Hibs, you should see these things Pep.

[hibeerealist]

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What did he say you dont agree with?

If you have read the post you should know

[Skol]

I really want maloney to succeed. But I am genuinely concerned.

I accept we are missing boyle and have had some injuries and suspensions. However we are clearly struggling right now and look a poorer side. Gray had a better performance out of the team at hampden.

We don’t seem to have the players who are capable of doing what is asked of them. We don’t look like scoring. We look like conceding.

Tuesday is now huge

[silverhibee]

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Nothing I have said contradicts any of that although I do think an on form, consistent JDH would be decent

So JDH gets time but Maloney doesn’t.

[xyz23jc]

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Agree with this.

Add PATRIARCHAL to the mix!

[silverhibee]

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No, but that pish today has not helped his cause, we lost a game at home to Livingston who were 4th bottom before today. They're only 4 points behind us now. We play Hearts at home then St Mirren at home which are must wins if we are to keep in touch with the top 4. We then go away to Rangers on the 9th of Feb and then up to Arbroath in th cup who will most definitely smell an upset given our terrible form. Look at the 2nd goal we conceded. We cant defend even defend a mildly threatening long throw into our box. Shocking stuff. Maloney has his work cut out thats for sure.

Top of the table Rangers drew to 3rd bottom Ross County today, it’s a funny old game so it is, the stabbing in the back of Maloney already is a new low for Hibs fans tonight.

[500miles]

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All in your opinion, others see it differently, Hanlon costs us goal nowadays with his slow movement, McGinn is not good enough for Hibs, you should see these things Pep.

Yet they both played every week in a 3rd placed team with an excellent defensive record last year, with Scotland caps off the back of them - in the best Scotland team in a quarter century.

It's as if everyone with coaching badges- not from a box of cornflakes - disagrees with you.

[silverhibee]

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If we lose to Hearts I'm 100% Maloney out. If it was good enough for the guy who got us 3rd and 2 finals in a row it's good enough for Maloney.

So you give Maloney one more game but give Ross a few seasons. Deary me.

[Hibiza]

James Scott or Jason ?

[Hibees1973]

Campbell & Doyle-Hayes in central midfield today.

After 6 weeks at the club does Maloney really feel these two are worthy of a first team place. If so, we are in real bother.

This pair sum up our development and recruitment processes. Even worse, both were awarded with long term deals and could be on the books getting a wage for years.

Takes my breath away leaves me raging.

[MWHIBBIES]

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All in your opinion, others see it differently, Hanlon costs us goal nowadays with his slow movement, McGinn is not good enough for Hibs, you should see these things Pep.

Yep, wee shot at me there. Standard. Obviously it's my ****ing opinion, I'm posting it.

Hanlon an excellent player. Seen today how good he is.

McGinn is, based on our current options, certainty good enough to be at Hibs, at least as a squad player. Excellent last season too. That's a fact.

[MKHIBEE]

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JDH - a nothing player IMO
Campbell - lower league level
Drey Wright - anyone who Tommy Wright thinks is the best he's seen is a worry
James Scott - you are simply trolling if you think he is a good player
Jamie Murphy - my iceberg lettuce is more resilient than that lad's hamstrings
Gogic - there's a reason he was at relegated Hamilton
Nathan Wood - panic signing
Stephen and Paul McGinn - never, ever good enough for Hibs

And we still rely on Lewis, Hanlon and McGregor.............

How much salary is that ? The recruitment team at Hibs are awful - plain and simple.

Nothing I have said contradicts any of that although I do think an on form, consistent JDH would be decent

[silverhibee]

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Thats not how a back 5 or 3 works. They are not more defensive or offensive than anything else. All about execution.

FFS, what was Ron thinking bringing in Maloney when he could have just got your services and you could have us flying, admit it you don’t rate Maloney and you aren’t willing to back him from the word go.

[MWHIBBIES]

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He did hit the ground running, but folk like you were never going to give him a chance, he won’t be going anywhere so get behind him and stop your moaning Pep.

I'm fully behind him, as I am every manager at Hibs. Me being behind him doesn't mean we didn't just beat Livi today.

Folk like me I very rarely slag the team on here. Like, very rarely. Don't embarrass yourself further by continuing this patter.

[WhileTheChief..]

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Nope. But he's done nothing to show he's good enough to be the manager of our football club let alone better the achievements of our last manager. Anything apart from how he views the game?

Sunderland are a bigger club than Hibernian. Replay Robbie left them in third to go to MK Dons for instance. Maloney won't manage a bigger club than us based on everything so far. I'm only speculating, the same as you have saying he will be more successful than Maloney based on absolutely nothing but a CV as a coach - see Cathro.

Exactly this. It's nothing against Maloney.

For me, the Hibs job is one of the top 4 or 5 jobs in the country and it should be treated as such.

SM is the exact opposite of what I was expecting / hoping for. I assumed that as we were getting rid of JR it was because we had someone outstanding lined up as his replacement.

SMs appointment wasn't bad on the face of it, just utterly weird, and I totally get the Cathro comparison's.

I'd imagine RG will be just s quick to act if things don't improve though. Fourth in the league will be the min expected to give us a shot at Europe.

[Crab apple]

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What's interesting is I actually like the look of the players he's brought in. Rocky if he keeps playing the way he is I'd be shocked if he's playing for us next year. We need to give him a chance

For me Maloney still has to prove in the transfer market. Rocky was our best defender today although had a role in the loss of the second goal. I've not been impressed with Henderson. Mitchell was good first half but understandably tired in the second.

[silverhibee]

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Going by what I've seen of us since Maloney arrived, we have no chance on Tuesday.

Players will be up for the derby, these games take care of themselves, the fans (fingers crossed) will be right behind the team and hopefully they get the result we need.

[MWHIBBIES]

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FFS, what was Ron thinking bringing in Maloney when he could have just got your services and you could have us flying, admit it you don’t rate Maloney and you aren’t willing to back him from the word go.

Admit it, you've had a few and you're posting utter garbage. I back all Hibs managers from the day they join. I desperately want us to win every game. Get yourself to bed.

[truehibernian]

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Yet they both played every week in a 3rd placed team with an excellent defensive record last year, with Scotland caps off the back of them - in the best Scotland team in a quarter century.

It's as if everyone with coaching badges- not from a box of cornflakes - disagrees with you.

Let's not get all misty eyed about Scotland caps - they were brought in due to injuries, and if you honestly think Paul McGinn is an international player and 'mainstay' you're head is full of cornflakes - it's not about coaching badges, it's what we see week in week out, and for a team to consistently be striving for 3rd at least, neither are the answer going forward (now) - the whole squad needs addressed, no one is doubting what Paul Hanlon in particular has offered over the years (great player and servant). I think the point is that the team, and certain players, have had their moment and it's time for a 'new Hibs'. And Paul McGinn has been utter mince this season, anyone thinking otherwise is deluded. Seriously deluded.

[silverhibee]

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look at all the top bosses in the world, every one of them has an air of confidence about them and they all look like they would be "nutters" in the changing room.

stein, fergie, robson, mourinho, klopp, pep, ancellotti, conte, simeone, zidane, van gaal,

would you mess with any of those names.

Have you seen how Maloney behaves in the dressing room ?. Do you think he is a pushover, he is just in the job and won’t slate players he knows he has to rely on with there extended contracts until end of season.

You could always ask Pep on here his views.

[MKHIBEE]

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So JDH gets time but Maloney doesn’t.

Nowhere have I said that Maloney shouldn’t get time. He is 6 games into his tenure, Far too early to be thinking of anything other than supporting him. As for JDH I’m not convinced he has fully recovered from COVID.

[silverhibee]

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Livingston at home? There's bad and there's bad.

And Jack Ross never had horror shows at home against some pish in this league, Maloney is having to work with some players who got Ross the sack, once again we need to give him time.

[The 90+2]

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Exactly this. It's nothing against Maloney.

For me, the Hibs job is one of the top 4 or 5 jobs in the country and it should be treated as such.

SM is the exact opposite of what I was expecting / hoping for. I assumed that as we were getting rid of JR it was because we had someone outstanding lined up as his replacement.

SMs appointment wasn't bad on the face of it, just utterly weird, and I totally get the Cathro comparison's.

I'd imagine RG will be just s quick to act if things don't improve though. Fourth in the league will be the min expected to give us a shot at Europe.

Will Ron and Ben admit they are wrong if it's bottom 6 or 6th/5th? I'm not too sure. Jack Ross wasn't their signing. Maloney is.

Saying that I desperately hope this Maloney "experiment" works out because it's going to either be wonderful or a disaster.

I would love a rookie Mowbray where right from the Leeds game we knew what was trying to be done. Right now from team selection to formation and subs it just looks like complete guesswork.

[silverhibee]

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I genuinely wonder what he said to make the Hibernian board think he was the best person for the job.

At least Cathro had Potter bigging him up.

And yet you were touting Kennedy for the Hibs job, the guy who helped celtc f*** it up.

[The 90+2]

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And Jack Ross never had horror shows at home against some pish in this league, Maloney is having to work with some players who got Ross the sack, once again we need to give him time.

We should have given Ross more time and better recruitment to turn things around. At least he had proven as a successful manager. Precedent is founded by sacking him, why back someone who's done little or nothing to show they are an improvement based on blind faith? This team was good enough for third last season and if Maloney can't motivate the same squad apart from Boyle - and it's not as if Boyle missing was to blame for the shambles of an hour against Cove then why is he the right man for the job and whats it based on?

[silverhibee]

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Both forwards played well today, Nisbet especially.

But still missing easy chances just like against celtc.

We probably need a new striker, we need him to score goals.

[Callum_62]

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But still missing easy chances just like against celtc.

We probably need a new striker, we need him to score goals.

What easy chances did he miss?

He had a couple of efforts but none I thought were great chances or bad misses

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[Bobby's Cinema]

He's not got the style quite right yet. It's fine trying to recycle the ball but even losing into added time we didn't have a way to get on the turn and play forward and we're so sluggish laying passes to get us out our own half.

It's pretty clear if you press us hard you'll force us into mistakes the way the players are trying to play football at the moment inching us forward with on the deck passes to the nearest player - livi done that to us all second half.

We need to sort that balance out ASAP.

[silverhibee]

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What do you base your opinion he will be more successful than Ross? Finish higher than third? Win a cup? Based on absolutely what considering we lost in the league today and won in extra time against a team that drew with Dumbarton today in the Scottish Cup.

Ross got time, why’s Maloney not getting it, and Ross got sacked because we were pish but got plenty time, it would seem from some that Maloney only deserves a few games and minds are made up about him.