Shaun Maloney - Style of play

[bigwheel]

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He’s a highly respected coach otherwise he wouldn’t have been anywhere near Belgium. He also went through an interview process at the club where they deemed him good enough to be in charge. Give the bloke a chance, it comes across that you want him to do a terrible job so you can say you were right. Weird behaviour.

FWIW Maloney wouldn’t have been my first choice for the job but I’ll back him until I feel that he isn’t the right man for the job. At the moment putting everything into perspective with the sale of our best player, a few injuries and how he is trying to implement a style of play we aren’t used to I’m happy to give him time. A long way to go this season, top four and a trophy still within reach.

Being a great coach , doesn’t make him a decent manager though. We know they are quite different roles .

No one can be seeing anything that is suggesting he is going to get this right . Not saying , we shouldn’t support him . Of course we should. But there is no signs that he will make us better. I can understand why a number are worried . I’m troubled too

[coldingham hibs]

Style of play is boring, negative & laboured. No creativity and no fire power. To be outgunned by a team like Livingston at home is just criminal.

[Mikey_1875]

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However, our problems are more serious than the team manager. The whole structure at the club stinks.

I’m beginning to feel that way as well.

[The 90+2]

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He’s a highly respected coach otherwise he wouldn’t have been anywhere near Belgium. He also went through an interview process at the club where they deemed him good enough to be in charge. Give the bloke a chance, it comes across that you want him to do a terrible job so you can say you were right. Weird behaviour.

FWIW Maloney wouldn’t have been my first choice for the job but I’ll back him until I feel that he isn’t the right man for the job. At the moment putting everything into perspective with the sale of our best player, a few injuries and how he is trying to implement a style of play we aren’t used to I’m happy to give him time. A long way to go this season, top four and a trophy still within reach.

No, I want him to do brilliant so I can say I was talking rubbish. I'm not going to blindly back him based on absolutely zero though. He's no improvement from before and that's based on performances on the pitch. He's got a chance. There's giving him a chance and there's saying he will do better than the last manager who we finished third under though.

What about the perspective when we had a squad out for Covid, loads of injuries and a fixture pile up. We perhaps shouldn't have hounded out the manager who got us to finals and finished third with a sense of perspective but no - we thought we could do better with the players we have - now that's not the case and time, money and new players are needed - that was after backing Jack and Mathie was the devil after the summer. People just make it up as they go along.

[#2 Double Tap]

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Maloney had a wee change in tone in his after match IV



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much better than the last one. glad for the bit honesty and lack of smirks.

[The 90+2]

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Theres still some ridiculous overreactions. Getting rid after 6 games?

You think it's bad now, wait until Tuesday evening.

[JamesHFC]

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Being a great coach , doesn’t make him a decent manager though. We know they are quite different roles .

No one can be seeing anything that is suggesting he is going to get this right . Not saying , we shouldn’t support him . Of course we should. But there is no signs that he will make us better. I can understand why a number are worried . I’m troubled too

It’s his first managerial job so of course we aren’t going to know how it will pan out but I think he will do well. Gerrard, Lampard, Rooney, Arteta and Viera recent former players to go into management and they are doing alright. There’s no reason why Maloney can’t be a good manager because he hasn’t manager a club before, he has to start somewhere.

[hibsbollah]

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You think it's bad now, wait until Tuesday evening.

I don’t think so. I’d rather take out my eyeballs with spoons and replace with hot sticky toffee apples than come on here the night after losing a derby.

[JamesHFC]

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No, I want him to do brilliant so I can say I was talking rubbish. I'm not going to blindly back him based on absolutely zero though. He's no improvement from before and that's based on performances on the pitch. He's got a chance. There's giving him a chance and there's saying he will do better than the last manager who we finished third under though.

What about the perspective when we had a squad out for Covid, loads of injuries and a fixture pile up. We perhaps shouldn't have hounded out the manager who got us to finals and finished third with a sense of perspective but no - we thought we could do better with the players we have - now that's not the case and time, money and new players are needed - that was after backing Jack and Mathie was the devil after the summer. People just make it up as they go along.

He won the same amount of league games in his first two matches as the previous manager did in his last 12.

It’s just my opinion that Maloney will be a more successful manager than Jack Ross, if we are both still here in 10 years we can discuss that.

I’m pretty fed up of talking about Jack Ross so I’m going to leave it at this.

[bigwheel]

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It’s his first managerial job so of course we aren’t going to know how it will pan out but I think he will do well. Gerrard, Lampard, Rooney, Arteta and Viera recent former players to go into management and they are doing alright. There’s no reason why Maloney can’t be a good manager because he hasn’t manager a club before, he has to start somewhere.

I can’t see anything that suggests he will be. Good manager . Not saying he won’t , hope he will of course . We need him to.

can’t see how anyone can think that from
What we are seeing so far ( other than assumption ). There are no signs he is making us better . Yes, only six games in - but we are regressing , not developing . So currently , there are no indicators he will be good at this job .

[truehibernian]

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I’m beginning to feel that way as well.

LD understood the parochial nature of Scottish football but was also successful and adept at 'feeling the room'.

Just don't get that with the new CEO - he's a money maker and has not 'got' the Scottish football or Hibs vibe. Not impressed with Ron Gordon either I have to be honest - everything I hear about him is money orientated and not team orientated. Something I've posted about previously so not knee jerk to today.

[JamesHFC]

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I can’t see anything that suggests he will be. Good manager . Not saying he won’t , hope he will of course . We need him to.

can’t see how anyone can think that from
What we are seeing so far ( other than assumption ). There are no signs he is making us better . Yes, only six games in - but we are regressing , not developing . So currently , there are no indicators he will be good at this job .

We are regressing based on what?

[bigwheel]

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We are regressing based on what?

Based on watching all the games since the break …and seeing how ineffective we are at winning games

We were better against Aberdeen and United than since. That’s regression

[Nicho87]

If maloney continues with his belief on how football should be played, he won’t see next season

I love the passing style and control the game but it needs adapting

Hate saying it but Celtic play the most exciting football in the league, the speed they break at is frightening

If we could find a balance of possession, pressing and more passing in the final third maloney could be the man to do something wonderful.

I hope he isn’t stubborn to at least try an adapted belief

[JamesHFC]

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Based on watching all the games since the break …and seeing how ineffective we are at winning games

We’ve won 3 of the 6 games since he came in. We’ve lost Boyle since the break who has been huge for us in regards of scoring and assisting goals, we need a replacement.

[marinello59]

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LD understood the parochial nature of Scottish football but was also successful and adept at 'feeling the room'.

Just don't get that with the new CEO - he's a money maker and has not 'got' the Scottish football or Hibs vibe. Not impressed with Ron Gordon either I have to be honest - everything I hear about him is money orientated and not team orientated. Something I've posted about previously so not knee jerk to today.

He speaks a lot but says very little of value. LD was head and shoulders above him when it came to getting what we are all about.

[Dashing Bob S]

I think pish would be the best way to describe his style of play so far. I’m not sure the players get what he’s trying to do or have the ability to operate in a system that asks a lot of players.

Whatever, so far we look a spiritless outfit with no fight or organization. It seems more likely that we’ll be dragged into a relegation battle than be fighting for a European spot. And it’s one we seem ill equipped to handle.

I would obviously love to be wrong and the players to get it, and everything to click in.

[The 90+2]

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He won the same amount of league games in his first two matches as the previous manager did in his last 12.

It’s just my opinion that Maloney will be a more successful manager than Jack Ross, if we are both still here in 10 years we can discuss that.

I’m pretty fed up of talking about Jack Ross so I’m going to leave it at this.

We can discuss it in a couple of months if you like because it will be plainly obvious by the if he has what it takes or if he doesn't.

The last derby, away, I went into that game thinking we would win and a draw was disappointing. Now looking at Tuesday I'll gladly take a draw.

[marinello59]

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I think pish would be the best way to describe his style of play so far. I’m not sure the players get what he’s trying to do or have the ability to operate in a system that asks a lot of players.

Whatever, so far we look a spiritless outfit with no fight or organization. It seems more likely that we’ll be dragged into a relegation battle than be fighting for a European spot. And it’s one we seem ill equipped to handle.

I would obviously love to be wrong and the players to get it, and everything to click in.

That's being kind.

[The 90+2]

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He speaks a lot but says very little of value. LD was head and shoulders above him when it came to getting what we are all about.

LD was the connection from the club to the fans when the takeover happened, she was through it emotionally from bringing us back from relegation and of course the greatest day in history and should have been kept as long as possible.

Now it seems we are ran more of a franchise. At Least with Aberdeen the boy up there supports them.

[Row H]

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Nope. But he's done nothing to show he's good enough to be the manager of our football club let alone better the achievements of our last manager. Anything apart from how he views the game?

Sunderland are a bigger club than Hibernian. Replay Robbie left them in third to go to MK Dons for instance. Maloney won't manage a bigger club than us based on everything so far. I'm only speculating, the same as you have saying he will be more successful than Maloney based on absolutely nothing but a CV as a coach - see Cathro.

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No bother.

[The 90+2]

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No bother.

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[bigwheel]

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We’ve won 3 of the 6 games since he came in. We’ve lost Boyle since the break who has been huge for us in regards of scoring and assisting goals, we need a replacement.

Since the break, when he had some time to work with the squad .we’ve been worse than before. That’s regression.

I don’t think anyone can genuinely say there are any early signs he will do a good job for us . He might of course , and as I said earlier we really need him to. But there are zero signs in recent games that he will transform us in a positive way .

my intuition tells me he’ll be away by the start of next season - hope I’m calling it completely wrong .

[LaMotta]

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I think pish would be the best way to describe his style of play so far. I’m not sure the players get what he’s trying to do or have the ability to operate in a system that asks a lot of players.

Whatever, so far we look a spiritless outfit with no fight or organization. It seems more likely that we’ll be dragged into a relegation battle than be fighting for a European spot. And it’s one we seem ill equipped to handle.

I would obviously love to be wrong and the players to get it, and everything to click in.

This is all true - agree with every word.

The most worrying thing is that he looks to have no idea about assessing the ability of the players at the club - his decision making has been bizarre.

[Alfred E Newman]

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It’s his first managerial job so of course we aren’t going to know how it will pan out but I think he will do well. Gerrard, Lampard, Rooney, Arteta and Viera recent former players to go into management and they are doing alright. There’s no reason why Maloney can’t be a good manager because he hasn’t manager a club before, he has to start somewhere.

You are right, he has to start somewhere but there is no guarantee he is going to be a good manager. It seems a massive gamble by the club letting him prove himself here and one that looks like backfiring.
He looked totally lost on the touch line today.

[The Modfather]

We still look like a Jack Ross team. Not all that unsurprising given only Henderson, Rocky& Mitchel have played that were signed by Maloney.

He may or may not be the right man but there’s a certain hypocrisy in those that made, and continue to make, the point that Ross deserved more time. Yet have afforded Maloney 6 games and not even 1 full transfer window before making their mind up.

[Row H]

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[silverhibee]

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I put this in another thread but he's already reminding me of Heckingbottom in his second part season with us - has a system in mind of possession, passing and pressing but doesn't realise that any Scottish club outside Celtic and Rangers won't be able to attract a team of players capable of doing that. Too stubborn to change it when the best thing he could do just now is get a team out there to ****ing battle and get shots on target.

He needs to be less naive and ideallic and change plan very quickly IMO.

Funny you say that, take Ange at celtc, looked a bombscare when he came in and was being slated by all the so called managers that watch football, he stuck to his guns and his style of play and he turned things around and now has his team playing some decent football, should Maloney dump his style of play already and just start lumping the ball up Doidge, all the pro licence coaches on here who know better know nothing about coaching a football team, give the manager time, we have lost our best player in the January window who wanted away, a defender who picks up red cards like they are going out of fashion which means he misses out on games and disrupts the team and came in today and was f***ing woeful, keep saying it but things won’t happen overnight it will take time but the knifes have been sharpened and they are out now to stab Maloney, f***ing joke.

[ThisIsTheYear]

My issue is he seems to know his style doesn’t suit when the opposition gets in our face… that’s exactly how Hearts will play on Tuesday plus most of the teams in this league. I’m worried this style ain’t going to work…

[Scooter]

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He won't hang them out to dry in the press but I don't think he is impressed with the squad he has inherited.

He has passed one or two comments that he can't believe the criticism from the stands, he's got to realise he's at Hibs now and not Celtic. I thought the fans were good in the first half today as were the team. However second half you could feel the frustration of the fans and this will recur if positive signs don't come soon.

Just as a by the way, I don't know what they do at half time in Easter Road games but they are always lethargic at the start of the second half. It came as no surprise when they equalised.

What's interesting is I actually like the look of the players he's brought in. Rocky if he keeps playing the way he is I'd be shocked if he's playing for us next year. We need to give him a chance