Shaun Maloney - Style of play

[flash]

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I just don’t remember that far back

I only know because nobody did back then!

[jacomo]

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Not trigger happy in wanting him sacked, more in the sense of deciding his style of football isn't working.Absolutely Belgium didn't get to top spot by just changing managers, they changed way they approached games, changed mindsets, changed culture,brought players into the set up that could play the way the management team wanted to play , and those weren't always the best players, but played well in the structure.These things do take time and players have to adapt to that.Shaun brought on more attacking players when Motherwell went down to 10 men, but they fitted in to the structure.
I'm sure we will get players in that will fit into the way the manager wants us to play, and ones that can't will move on.
Next 2-3 days, rest of season plus summer window will give us more of an idea of what he wants and then we can judge whether he's successful or not

The biggest factor in Belgium becoming ranked No.1 was their ‘golden generation’, an unbelievable glut of talent all coming through over a five year period, and being spread across all areas of the pitch.

For all that, they’ve won hee haw, and arguably another coaching team might have done better with that group.

I’m all for attacking, possession-based football, but if Shaun thinks he can just import the Belgian template straight into Hibs then he is going to endure a sharp and uncomfortable learning curve.

The key to successful management is blending short term results into long term success. A certain amount of pragmatism is required of any manager, especially in Scotland where we allow artificial playing surfaces in the top flight and the weather makes passing football very difficult for 4 months of the year.

[Keith_M]

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I just don’t remember that far back

You were standing next to the segregation barriers on the main terracing, hurling abuse at the away fans, if that helps.




Just like everybody else our age

[MWHIBBIES]

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The biggest factor in Belgium becoming ranked No.1 was their ‘golden generation’, an unbelievable glut of talent all coming through over a five year period, and being spread across all areas of the pitch.

For all that, they’ve won hee haw, and arguably another coaching team might have done better with that group.

I’m all for attacking, possession-based football, but if Shaun thinks he can just import the Belgian template straight into Hibs then he is going to endure a sharp and uncomfortable learning curve.

The key to successful management is blending short term results into long term success. A certain amount of pragmatism is required of any manager, especially in Scotland where we allow artificial playing surfaces in the top flight and the weather makes passing football very difficult for 4 months of the year.

Martinez has had 2 tournaments and lost by 1 goal to the winners of each tournament when the team, especially defensively was already well on the decline. De Bruyne and hazard were both unfit in 2021 euros. Its very difficult to argue a better coaching team would've done better.

Mark wilmots ****ed up their best chance in 2016.

[ozwoody]

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The biggest factor in Belgium becoming ranked No.1 was their ‘golden generation’, an unbelievable glut of talent all coming through over a five year period, and being spread across all areas of the pitch.

For all that, they’ve won hee haw, and arguably another coaching team might have done better with that group.

I’m all for attacking, possession-based football, but if Shaun thinks he can just import the Belgian template straight into Hibs then he is going to endure a sharp and uncomfortable learning curve.

The key to successful management is blending short term results into long term success. A certain amount of pragmatism is required of any manager, especially in Scotland where we allow artificial playing surfaces in the top flight and the weather makes passing football very difficult for 4 months of the year.

Hasn't Shaun started off with decent results since he came in? 3 wins, 1 defeat and 1 draw seems a decent first 5 games to me.All without having a full squad to pick from.
I'm sure we all would have taken that when any new manager walked in the door

[Callum_62]

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Hasn't Shaun started off with decent results since he came in? 3 wins, 1 defeat and 1 draw seems a decent first 5 games to me.All without having a full squad to pick from.
I'm sure we all would have taken that when any new manager walked in the door

Results mean nothing!

Resulys with flair or it does nae count

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[JimBHibees]

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Hasn't Shaun started off with decent results since he came in? 3 wins, 1 defeat and 1 draw seems a decent first 5 games to me.All without having a full squad to pick from.
I'm sure we all would have taken that when any new manager walked in the door

Yes he has and will get better

[LeithMike]

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Martinez has had 2 tournaments and lost by 1 goal to the winners of each tournament when the team, especially defensively was already well on the decline. De Bruyne and hazard were both unfit in 2021 euros. Its very difficult to argue a better coaching team would've done better.

Mark wilmots ****ed up their best chance in 2016.

Not sure Everton fans would agree. Just listening to some on the radio about Lampard's appointment and they were scathing about Martinez and his persistence with 3-4-3 and only having 2 central midfielders.

Martinez took Wigan down and Everton backwards so he's certainly not proven himself as an elite coach.

I really hope Maloney is not going to adhere rigidly to the Martinez way and evolve in his thinking. Time will tell but we have to give Maloney that time. We may get worse before we get better and we'll only really have an idea well into next season.

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[Glory Lurker]

He's got the right system, but not all the right players. Yet.

I hate so say we are as well tempering our expectations for the rest of this season, but in reality we need to. Next season, we'll be motoring.

[Keepthefaith]

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Hasn't Shaun started off with decent results since he came in? 3 wins, 1 defeat and 1 draw seems a decent first 5 games to me.All without having a full squad to pick from.
I'm sure we all would have taken that when any new manager walked in the door

Far too sensible a post for here! Maloney has clearly stated he wants to implement attacking football and has acknowledged the need for more pace. If he'd tried to go gung go and we'd shipped goals each game, folk would be calling him naive and throwing that back at him as inexperience. Seems the guy can't win.

The brief from Ron and Ben was clearly attacking, attractive football. Patience and absolute support are needed right now!

[lord bunberry]

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I just don’t remember that far back

That doesn’t mean you weren’t there buddy

[ozwoody]

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Far too sensible a post for here! Maloney has clearly stated he wants to implement attacking football and has acknowledged the need for more pace. If he'd tried to go gung go and we'd shipped goals each game, folk would be calling him naive and throwing that back at him as inexperience. Seems the guy can't win.

The brief from Ron and Ben was clearly attacking, attractive football. Patience and absolute support are needed right now!

I apologise , I won't do it again.

[wearehibernian]

Winning is key and maybe that is what he wants to drum in? Fine by me on a week to week basis but we still need some passion in the big games. Systems and stuff often dont matter a f*** when it comes down to lifting a trophy. Don't want it to be another training ground for another 'rookie' manager. We are not a stepping stone for a someone wanting to learn his trade etc. Equally, best of luck to Sean!

[Skol]

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Not sure Everton fans would agree. Just listening to some on the radio about Lampard's appointment and they were scathing about Martinez and his persistence with 3-4-3 and only having 2 central midfielders.

Martinez took Wigan down and Everton backwards so he's certainly not proven himself as an elite coach.

I really hope Maloney is not going to adhere rigidly to the Martinez way and evolve in his thinking. Time will tell but we have to give Maloney that time. We may get worse before we get better and we'll only really have an idea well into next season.



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It’s the 3/4/3 and two midfielders that appear to me to be our problem

[MWHIBBIES]

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Not sure Everton fans would agree. Just listening to some on the radio about Lampard's appointment and they were scathing about Martinez and his persistence with 3-4-3 and only having 2 central midfielders.

Martinez took Wigan down and Everton backwards so he's certainly not proven himself as an elite coach.

I really hope Maloney is not going to adhere rigidly to the Martinez way and evolve in his thinking. Time will tell but we have to give Maloney that time. We may get worse before we get better and we'll only really have an idea well into next season.

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I never mentioned his time at Everton because AFAIK, it has nothing to do with Maloney who wasn't there with him.

[blackpoolhibs]

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I never mentioned his time at Everton because AFAIK, it has nothing to do with Maloney who wasn't there with him.

Here's a radical thought, have you ever concidered that you might not be right about every subject on this universe?

[B.H.F.C]

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It’s the 3/4/3 and two midfielders that appear to me to be our problem

Wednesday wasn’t anything to do with shape but all to do with lack of quality going forward IMO. As soon as the team was announced you knew we weren’t going to carry much of a threat. However, the number of times we broke on them, got to the final third and passed the ball out the park or straight to a Motherwell player (particularly first half) was unreal. Team sheet can’t include all three of Newell, JDH and Campbell today, surely.

[ozwoody]

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Winning is key and maybe that is what he wants to drum in? Fine by me on a week to week basis but we still need some passion in the big games. Systems and stuff often dont matter a f*** when it comes down to lifting a trophy. Don't want it to be another training ground for another 'rookie' manager. We are not a stepping stone for a someone wanting to learn his trade etc. Equally, best of luck to Sean!

But we have been winning, 3 out of five , one defeat is winning ratio.hes also progressed in cup so is one step closer in that aspect.passion in " big games"? He beaten Aberdeen, dundee utd and lost v celtic, who most teams will.
If you want him blood and snotters all out attack with players we have, and more importantly, players we have out, you will be sadly disappointed, especially after 5 games. Every club is stepping stone to next level. If Shaun is successful, which we all want, bigger clubs come calling.That shows, to managers and players, that hibs are a club that you can advance your career. Gerard done ok at his first club as rookie manager ... should he not have taken villa job?

[LeithMike]

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Here's a radical thought, have you ever concidered that you might not be right about every subject on this universe?

The point made was that no coaching team could have done any better with Belgium than Martinez and Maloney. Given Martinez's previous record, I highly doubt that the point made was correct.

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[Keepthefaith]

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But we have been winning, 3 out of five , one defeat is winning ratio.hes also progressed in cup so is one step closer in that aspect.passion in " big games"? He beaten Aberdeen, dundee utd and lost v celtic, who most teams will.
If you want him blood and snotters all out attack with players we have, and more importantly, players we have out, you will be sadly disappointed, especially after 5 games. Every club is stepping stone to next level. If Shaun is successful, which we all want, bigger clubs come calling.That shows, to managers and players, that hibs are a club that you can advance your career. Gerard done ok at his first club as rookie manager ... should he not have taken villa job?

Oi! I thought you weren't going to talk sense anymore?? 😂

[MWHIBBIES]

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Here's a radical thought, have you ever concidered that you might not be right about every subject on this universe?

Pardon?

I'm quite clearly speaking about Martinez with Maloney on his staff, relating purely to Belgium. I actually fully agree with what has been said about his time at Everton and Wigan, but it has absolutely nothing to do with this thread.

Here's a radical thought, I couldn't even remotely care less about what you have to say about me. Keep it on topic.

[MWHIBBIES]

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The point made was that no coaching team could have done any better with Belgium than Martinez and Maloney. Given Martinez's previous record, I highly doubt that the point made was correct.

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Again, I very much doubt they could've. He lost 2 matches, both by 1 goal to eventual tournament winners. France 2018 was certainly a better squad than Belgium had and its not even really close. Italy were about the same level, but Belgium had a half fit hazard and de Bruyne.


Martinez has done a really decent job with Belgium.

[MWHIBBIES]

Think this appointment is gonna be a big disaster I think. That was absolutely pathetic.

[LunasBoots]

Can't play this style of play with this level of player and certainly not with a non existent midfield

[Nicho87]

Martin Boyle-less we are rotten.

[eastmainsmsh]

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Think this appointment is gonna be a big disaster I think. That was absolutely pathetic.

Ditto absolute Rubbish Omeonga a stand out

[Since452]

Sacking Jack Ross lol

[gazzag70]

There is not much to feel positive about after todays result.We were honking! Maloneys appointment was always going to be a gamble.We need a big performance on Tuesday night, is this team capable of it? I hope so

[#2 Double Tap]

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Sacking Jack Ross lol

he deserved the sack.

hiring maloney not looking so clever, lets hope he turns out all right, but lose on tuesday and its over before its even begun.

[percy veer]

Groundhog day same crap served up, no passion on touch lines why make 1 pass when you can make 10 , lucky to last until Xmas