Shaun Maloney - Style of play

[JohnM1875]

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Separate point, but I didn’t think he was happy with the fans reaction at full time. Gave a bit of a clap then started shaking his head at whatever reaction he got. Nisbet had a bit of a bite back, firstly down the front, then walking up the steps as well.

We had zero shots on target. We're hardly going to be buzzing at full time.

[Ozyhibby]

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Separate point, but I didn’t think he was happy with the fans reaction at full time. Gave a bit of a clap then started shaking his head at whatever reaction he got. Nisbet had a bit of a bite back, firstly down the front, then walking up the steps as well.

To be honest, I felt sorry for Nisbet tonight. Put in a lot of work but rarely got the ball in anything like a remotely threatening area.
If the only chances we are going to create are from crosses it’s probably better we play Doidge up front.

Maloney seems a bit insecure given he felt the need to have a go at Ross and if he is unhappy with fan reaction tonight. He better toughen up if he wants to make it in management.


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[Hiber-nation]

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He can’t believe that.

He’s just taking ***** in the media until he can get his own players in.

No benefit to him coming out and saying how ***** we really were.

No doubt about it. No shots on target against a poor Motherwell side, never posed a threat throughout the game. It was dismal and he must know it.

[Hibee Mac]

Have to admit the players look like they're being coached out of all creativity going forward. Like they're scared to take a risk in case they give the ball away.

90% of our passing is short and to feet with the receiving player's back to goal. That doesn't hurt any team and they'll gladly soak that up.

If we can't find a way to be more creative quickly then Maloney needs to be prepared to abandon some of his original plans/ideals, even if it's just until summer. End of the day it's a results focussed business and if your team is creating so little in front of goal then he needs to try and adapt.

Plus we've had enough dire football recently I can't be bothered with another 6 months of it.

[Callum_62]

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No doubt about it. No shots on target against a poor Motherwell side, never posed a threat throughout the game. It was dismal and he must know it.

Is this a poor Motherwell side? They are doing quite well arnt they?

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[B.H.F.C]

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Have to admit the players look like they're being coached out of all creativity going forward. Like they're scared to take a risk in case they give the ball away.

90% of our passing is short and to feet with the receiving player's back to goal. That doesn't hurt any team and they'll gladly soak that up.

If we can't find a way to be more creative quickly then Maloney needs to be prepared to abandon some of his original plans/ideals, even if it's just until summer. End of the day it's a results focussed business and if your team is creating so little in front of goal then he needs to try and adapt.

Plus we've had enough dire football recently I can't be bothered with another 6 months of it.

I don’t think the players playing have had the creativity coached out of them, it’s just that there aren’t many of them who have any creativity in them. We can’t continue playing those three midfielders in the same team.

[JohnM1875]

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To be honest, I felt sorry for Nisbet tonight. Put in a lot of work but rarely got the ball in anything like a remotely threatening area.
If the only chances we are going to create are from crosses it’s probably better we play Doidge up front.

Maloney seems a bit insecure given he felt the need to have a go at Ross and if he is unhappy with fan reaction tonight. He better toughen up if he wants to make it in management.


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Other than the chance in the first 30 seconds where he took too long to take a shot you mean?

I do agree and think Nisbet will be fine as soon as we start creating from the middle of the pitch. We desperately need creativity in the middle.

[FitbaFolkKen]

I think he may be trying to support the players a bit and take the heat off the pressure from the stands. He has told Newell to ignore us against Cove and then the club have actively come out and asked us to be more supportive. He is perhaps trying to temper expectations.

I wonder if crowds returning worked to our detriment, is our team struggling with the expectations?

However if what happened at Celtic Park is outstanding I’m not particularly enthused and I expect most would agree, that certainly wouldn’t temper expectations.


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[BoomtownHibees]

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To be fair Motherwell only had 2 and they were the home team. Conditions were horrendous.

There’s always a good chance you will limit the other team to so few chances when you have so many defensive minded players in the team. The issue it causes is that you don’t create very much, if anything, yourselves.

A team including a goalie, 3 centre halfs, 2 wing backs plus Newell, JDH and Campbell is never likely to create very much at all. The balance in the middle of the park is all wrong imo

[Unseen work]

You know what, I’ve been thinking about it and I don’t think Maloney is daft.

I don’t think he’s happy it’s the attacking play but he’s not wanting to slate the players in the press.

There’s a reason the front 3 keeps changing.

There’s also a reason why in every interview he says we need to be more brave and more aggressive going forward and in the final third.

He knows what’s missing and he knows the current attackers aren’t cutting it.

I expect a big turn around of players in the next week.

Starting with Charles Cook.

[May21/05/216]

There is either a lot of jambos comments on this or idiotic comments from hibs fans the man been in charge for 5 games gee the man a break

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[CB_NO3]

Thought we played some nice football tonight in horrendous conditions albeit it was in our own half. Defensively we looked sound but the lack of chances created was worrying. Dont think the team merited being boo'd by the doughnuts in our support.

Big week coming up as we are at least 2 attacking players short. Imagine there will be a lot of movement this week.

[Hiber-nation]

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Is this a poor Motherwell side? They are doing quite well arnt they?

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They were poor, you could hear the crowd getting on their players' backs in the 2nd half up until the red card. Yes the weather played it's part but it was one of the most boring games of football I've seen in a long time.

[Latapy'sVolley]

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Like they're scared to take a risk in case they give the ball away.

90% of our passing is short and to feet with the receiving player's back to goal. That doesn't hurt any team and they'll gladly soak that up.

I get this impression too. interestingly, Maloney said on his Hibs TV post-match tonight that he wants players to take more risks and be braver.

So hopefully that'll be a sign of what's to come.

[JohnM1875]

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Thought we played some nice football tonight in horrendous conditions albeit it was in our own half. Defensively we looked sound but the lack of chances created was worrying. Dont think the team merited being boo'd by the doughnuts in our support.

Big week coming up as we are at least 2 attacking players short. Imagine there will be a lot of movement this week.

Were we boo'd off? I was watching on PPV and didn't hear that. If so totally agree with you about that, that's mental.

Think we're a creative mid and a striker short of being a good team. Magennis, Porto and Hanlon to come back as well. Melkerson to adapt and Mitchell to get used to our style of play. Ingredients are there

[#2 Double Tap]

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I think he may be trying to support the players a bit and take the heat off the pressure from the stands. He has told Newell to ignore us against Cove and then the club have actively come out and asked us to be more supportive. He is perhaps trying to temper expectations.

I wonder if crowds returning worked to our detriment, is our team struggling with the expectations?

However if what happened at Celtic Park is outstanding I’m not particularly enthused and I expect most would agree, that certainly wouldn’t temper expectations.


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he would get a lot more respect if he was just honest, the paying public are not fools, newell moaning after the cove game - he really needs to get a grip, a 0-0 against cove after 90 mins at ER is well below expectations.

I just watched that after game interview again, the whole thing is delusional - constantly repeating pish doesnt make it true, the fans will turn on him quicker than they turned on JR if he continues to spout guff.

[GreenGray]

People expecting him to come out and slate the players after five games? Butcher done that and look how that worked out.

[Ozyhibby]

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Were we boo'd off? I was watching on PPV and didn't hear that. If so totally agree with you about that, that's mental.

Think we're a creative mid and a striker short of being a good team. Magennis, Porto and Hanlon to come back as well. Melkerson to adapt and Mitchell to get used to our style of play. Ingredients are there

I actually just think we need a couple of centre mids. Get that area sorted and we’ll see improvements up front as a result.
There was a bit of booing at the end because the players have to exit in our stand. Felt that was a bit off to be honest. Didn’t feel like there was a lack of effort by the players. Booing is weird anyway.


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[JohnM1875]

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People expecting him to come out and slate the players after five games? Butcher done that and look how that worked out.

You can be honest without slating the players though? The conditions tonight were horrific! Fair to make that point.

I don't think it's a Maloney issue though, just wish more managers in general would be more honest. Almost pointless doing any pre/post match interviews now.

[Ozyhibby]

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People expecting him to come out and slate the players after five games? Butcher done that and look how that worked out.

He doesn’t need to slate any players. He just needs to describe the game as it was and not treat us like idiots. If he is happy with the chances created tonight then he’ll be gone by the end of the season.


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There is either a lot of jambos comments on this or idiotic comments from hibs fans the man been in charge for 5 games gee the man a break

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its football, you dont get time and you dont get breaks.

managers get at the start;
win and happy fans, who can get all hyped up about imaginary improvements or get draw, where fans think nothing is really changing or lose where everything is worse and doom and gloom continues.

[GreenGray]

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He doesn’t need to slate any players. He just needs to describe the game as it was and not treat us like idiots. If he is happy with the chances created tonight then he’ll be gone by the end of the season.


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Anything he says will be scrutinised. He can’t be too negative about the team/performance as he still needs this group of players to do a job for him the rest of the season.

[B.H.F.C]

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I actually just think we need a couple of centre mids. Get that area sorted and we’ll see improvements up front as a result.
There was a bit of booing at the end because the players have to exit in our stand. Felt that was a bit off to be honest. Didn’t feel like there was a lack of effort by the players. Booing is weird anyway.


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There wasn’t a lack of effort. Lack of urgency, lack of desire to go for the win perhaps and lack of quality definitely. But I thought they tried hard enough.

[lord bunberry]

So far his style has led to dismal performances, tonight was as toothless a performance as I’ve seen for a long time. When they went down to 10 men we continued to be ponderous instead of getting the ball quickly up to Doidge and try and win the second ball. It seems to me that Maloney is trying to walk before he can run and it’s not working, he needs to go much slower when changing the style to an all out passing game. We all want to see free flowing attacking football and I’m sure Maloney wants us to be playing it, but we’re so far off that at this stage. The reaction from some of the players at the end wasn’t great either, the fans turned up in decent numbers and supported the team, they got pretty much nothing in the way of entertainment back, it never really ends well when the players start giving the fans stick and Maloney should nip it in the bud quickly because it will be him that suffers if the fans turn on the team.

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Anything he says will be scrutinised. He can’t be too negative about the team/performance as he still needs this group of players to do a job for him the rest of the season.

so why not talk about how rocky is looking decent or how he thinks cadden's engine for getting up and down the park is marvellous, or how he is hopeful that nisbet continues upping his work rate or that generally he is seeing signs that are encouraging but more work is required.

not we dominated the ball, played wonderful football and created loadsa chances, and ohh in that game at parkheed we where fantastic when in reality celtic ripped us a new one for the majority of the first half until they took their foot of the gas at 2-0 up.

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[JohnM1875]

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Highlights are up

We should have uploaded it as 'highlights'

[NAE NOOKIE]

Think another poster made a valid point about Maloney trying to run before he has learned to walk ... or at least trying to get his players to do that.

Chuck in tonight's game and in our last 3 games the theme has been the same, lots of pretty possession in our half but creating next to nothing up front, with Maloney coming out after the game and saying how pleased he was with the way we kept possession. He said tonight he wont criticise strikers for missing chances, but when you only make 3 chances in a game because everything is so slow and measured your bloody strikers need to take one of them, a manager can be positive about strikers missing when they score a couple and miss a handful of others, but not when chances are at a premium and they are barely scoring at all, in our last 10 games our average is around a goal a game ... that's going to get us nowhere.

Next up are Livvi who restricted Sevco to one goal at Ibrox tonight ..... how is this team and it's powder puff attack after the departure of Boyle going to get a result against them and I hate to say it but I'm not looking forward to the derby at all on the back of our last few games because if our 'learning curve' ... 'transitional period' whatever you want to call it continues into that game we will get our arse kicked.

[Hibee Mac]

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So far his style has led to dismal performances, tonight was as toothless a performance as I’ve seen for a long time. When they went down to 10 men we continued to be ponderous instead of getting the ball quickly up to Doidge and try and win the second ball. It seems to me that Maloney is trying to walk before he can run and it’s not working, he needs to go much slower when changing the style to an all out passing game. We all want to see free flowing attacking football and I’m sure Maloney wants us to be playing it, but we’re so far off that at this stage. The reaction from some of the players at the end wasn’t great either, the fans turned up in decent numbers and supported the team, they got pretty much nothing in the way of entertainment back, it never really ends well when the players start giving the fans stick and Maloney should nip it in the bud quickly because it will be him that suffers if the fans turn on the team.

What happened with the players at full time? I just went straight out so missed any drama.

Were they giving it back to fans who were giving them it tight?

[HendoDelivered]

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https://youtu.be/LwXgIQo9LkM

Highlights are up

There weren’t any 😂