Newell on fans jeers vs Cove

[The 90+2]

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Agree with this. I’m quite surprised this has cropped up to be honest, I didn’t think the crowd reaction against Cove was really that bad. Crowd can make a difference on occasion but the game last week is the least pressured environment you’re ever likely to play in as a Hibs player.

He was probably asked the question from the reporter pushing the agenda and just gave an honest response.

[Dalianwanda]

The point he is making isnt anything to do with how good he is its to do with where we are as a team. Its commendable he has tried to explain things from a players point of view, another humans point of view Its about the fact he & the rest of the team are learning a new way to play. Hats off to those of you that have managed to learn a new skill under the regular abuse of those around you. Id say you have managed this in spite of the abuse not because of it.

Its not saying the team never deserve to be booed its saying this is where we, what were doing and this is the effect its having. Some call for players to be braver but are on their backs as soon as that 'bravery' doesnt show in their play.

Its not realistic that folk wont boo during the game but maybe understanding the effect it may have might get them to think about it for a bit.

[hibbysam]

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How many goals has Newell scored at Hibs? For a midfielder, regardless of their role, it's an awful stat (the answer is 3, in 90 games).

First 2 players plucked out of my head in our league, Steven Davis (4 in 132) and Callum McGregor (6 in his last 79).

Those are two players that have a lot less to worry about defensively, have much more of the ball, yet play a similar role. Deep laying midfielders tend not to score many goals.

[Hibiza]

Stop yir greetin Joe - try Playing some more forward passes.

[Danderhall Hibs]

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Stop yir greetin Joe - try Playing some more forward passes.

He did and now he wants the supporters to stop their greetin.

[Sean1875]

There was some wee boys sitting behind me just behind the Hibs dugout at the Cove game who shouted at the team as they were getting their team talk before the start of extra time saying they need to get their finger out and attack more, Joes response of ‘shut up you little twat’ made me laugh wonder if this article was partly inspired by that!

[MWHIBBIES]

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First 2 players plucked out of my head in our league, Steven Davis (4 in 132) and Callum McGregor (6 in his last 79).

Those are two players that have a lot less to worry about defensively, have much more of the ball, yet play a similar role. Deep laying midfielders tend not to score many goals.

Amazing how stats can just immediately blast someones daft argument away.

Joe Newell is not in the side to score goals.

[Since90+2]

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First 2 players plucked out of my head in our league, Steven Davis (4 in 132) and Callum McGregor (6 in his last 79).

Those are two players that have a lot less to worry about defensively, have much more of the ball, yet play a similar role. Deep laying midfielders tend not to score many goals.

To be fair McGregor has scored double the amount of goals in less games. Not sure he's a good example.

[Tambo]

Like most think Joe Doesn't get forward or the ball as much as we would like as when he does he's usually a threat.

Of course sometimes there will be times where a simpler ball will be played so let's see what tonight brings.

[Allant1981]

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To be fair McGregor has scored double the amount of goals in less games. Not sure he's a good example.

Only 3 more in a better team that wins most weeks in more or less the same amount of games is a perfectly good example i think

[Since90+2]

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Only 3 more in a better team that wins most weeks in more or less the same amount of games is a perfectly good example i think

McGregor has scored 55 goals for Celtic in 355 games. A goal every 6.5 games. That's a far higher return than Newell.

Not a very good example.

[The 90+2]

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Amazing how stats can just immediately blast someones daft argument away.

Joe Newell is not in the side to score goals.

What is he in the side to do?

[Bushiri33]

I think it shows a level of honesty from him. It's refreshing to actually hear how footballers are feeling. He's right, things will take time, it's a new style and something we should all be excited about.

[CockneyRebel]

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I’m sorry but that’s a cop out, he’s had numerous chances to score and either passed or hit a tame effort wide or straight at the keeper, his shooting is woeful. I like Newell as a player but he is extremely frustrating at times, he can look like a world beater in some games and anonymous in others.

And so have all of our forward players.

[MWHIBBIES]

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What is he in the side to do?

Bring the ball out of defence, retain possession, move the ball around, win it back. Things he does very well. Also takes some set pieces.

[CockneyRebel]

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What is he in the side to do?

What do you expect? You do know that Roy Race is a fictional character?

[The 90+2]

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Bring the ball out of defence, retain possession, move the ball around, win it back. Things he does very well. Also takes some set pieces.

The Hibs equivalent of that Simpsons episode with soccer in it then

https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.e4954872...pid=ImgRaw&r=0

[The 90+2]

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What do you expect? You do know that Roy Race is a fictional character?

Any need to be so wide?

[Hibbyradge]

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If it ain't Booing I ain't going.

I usually leave before the booing starts.

[WhileTheChief..]

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I have been at games where the crowd really backed the players for 90 mins and the players didn't respond but I have also seen the oppisite where the crowd offered next to no backing and the team delivered.

I don't think the crowd has as much of a bearing as some are suggesting but it can impact from time to time. The players need to be professional at the end of the day and put in performances that we want to see. Cove was as far away from that as any bad performances lucky Cove tired as that got us through in the end.

I agree with this.

If we’re losing, but the crowd can see that everyone is busting a gut to get a result, then generally the atmosphere will reflect that.

Think how often we need a goal in the last 5 mins. When we see the players moving forward quickly, or Allan making that defence-splitting pass to set up a chance, the fans are tremendous and ER can be bouncing.

Watching performances like we saw against Cove, for a lot of us, was boring as hell.

The crowd on the night just reflected the general feeling, as it pretty much always does.

[Ringothedog]

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I usually leave before the booing starts.

You leave before kickoff?

[B.H.F.C]

Newell should be chipping in now and again and he’s said that himself. He actually gets in to quite a few decent positions but is reluctant to have a shot a lot of the time.

[Allant1981]

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McGregor has scored 55 goals for Celtic in 355 games. A goal every 6.5 games. That's a far higher return than Newell.

Not a very good example.

I was going with the numbers in the post

[Danderhall Hibs]

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Newell should be chipping in now and again and he’s said that himself. He actually gets in to quite a few decent positions but is reluctant to have a shot a lot of the time.

the midfield need to chip in with far more goals. JDH is even Lea productive on that front - unwilling to shoot at times.

[Hibbyradge]

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You leave before kickoff?

[hibbysam]

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McGregor has scored 55 goals for Celtic in 355 games. A goal every 6.5 games. That's a far higher return than Newell.

Not a very good example.

Most of which playing further forward with brown in behind him. Since brown was phased out and McGregor has been sitting in (the exact role Newell plays) then he’s scored far less goals.

[lord bunberry]

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And so have all of our forward players.

We’re discussing Newell though. If the post above is true that he’s abusing fans at the game then he won’t last much longer.

[Crunchie]

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How many goals has Newell scored at Hibs? For a midfielder, regardless of their role, it's an awful stat (the answer is 3, in 90 games).

More than Dylan McGeouch I fancy., who wasn't too shabby a player for us

[Crunchie]

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We’re discussing Newell though. If the post above is true that he’s abusing fans at the game then he won’t last much longer.

Hopefully it has the opposite effect and the wee twat realises the error of his ways.

[ekhibee]

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It's all very well and I agree with Joe, but our team should be more than good enough to be winning consistently without needing to spend a while adapting to a playstyle that may not even work.

If we lose the next 3, but the manager says we're improving and showing signs, will folk be happy? I definitely won't.

Totally agree with every word.