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12-01-2022 06:56 AM #59971
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12-01-2022 06:59 AM #59972This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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12-01-2022 07:04 AM #59974
Is the worst of Omicron really over?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59958071
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12-01-2022 07:48 AM #59975
As someone triple vaxxed, this idea of penalising the unvaxxed makes me uneasy. Not all unvaxxed will be 'anti-vaxxers' - they may just have made a decision they don't want it for themselves. Are we really saying that someone genuinely terrified by the idea of taking a vaccine (not just once, but three times in 6 months) developed in record time that their participation in society isn't just to be limited and restricted, but they should be fined and effectively treated like criminals? And, as we face rising living costs and energy bills, what if that person can't afford the fine - put them in jail?
They might be misguided, foolish, and even selfish. But as we hopefully move from pandemic to endemic relatively soon, surely the unvaxxed will be more of a danger to themselves than anyone else. The elderly & vulnerable will be boosted and protected against serious illness, and maybe that will be the focus from now on. I empathise with those angry with the unvaxxed, but there are enough issues dividing society these days - I was hoping a lesson learned from all this would have been that we might be a bit more tolerant with those holding different views to our own (or the majority, in this case).
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12-01-2022 07:57 AM #59976
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12-01-2022 08:45 AM #59977This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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12-01-2022 08:47 AM #59978This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
United we stand here....
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12-01-2022 08:51 AM #59979
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12-01-2022 08:57 AM #59980This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteMon the Hibs.
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12-01-2022 09:45 AM #59981
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The daily peak number of deaths is still a valid measure, whether you like it or not.Last edited by grunt; 12-01-2022 at 09:48 AM.
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12-01-2022 10:19 AM #59982
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12-01-2022 10:23 AM #59983This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
The study into what happens and your chance of death without the vaccine.
We’ve got going on two years worth of data.
Na, for me, make life as difficult as possible for anti-vaxxers.
We are all in this together and living in a society comes the responsibility of protecting that society.
It’s three wee jags. Get it done!
J
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12-01-2022 10:30 AM #59984This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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12-01-2022 11:03 AM #59985
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12-01-2022 11:18 AM #59986
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An amazing article on vaccine safety. If it was unsafe we'd know by now
https://bostonreview.net/articles/the-long-term-safety-argument-over-covid-19-vaccines/
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12-01-2022 12:11 PM #59987This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I know a doctor at Sick Kids. He still says he wouldn't let his daughter get the vaccine as they have no idea how this will affect the reproductive system in the future.
It's still a trial vaccine until 2023 for a reason.
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12-01-2022 12:21 PM #59988
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12-01-2022 12:34 PM #59989This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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12-01-2022 12:38 PM #59990This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
However the reason I've put "now" in brackets is that up until quite recently I would have completely agreed with you.
Fining or penalising people for choosing not to be vaccinated is something that doesn't come naturally to me and when we finally return to a non-pandemic state again I would not support people being fined or penalised for failing to be vaccinated and would view it as something that is entirely their right to make their own decisions on, as much as I may completely disagree with them.
If truth be told I actually thought that the extremely high number of vaccinated people we now have in this country would mean that 2022 would be the year that the rest of us could finally return to a life free of any restrictions but the emergence of Omicron has sadly meant that's not been possible.
Although it's not been a return to anything like the lockdowns of March 2020 or January 2021, we are still living with restrictions which I view as something which could have been completely avoidable if every single person had currently been boostered.
The fact we now have so many patients with Covid-19 in hospital again, and also why we are dealing with restrictions, is largely down to the fact that we still have around 5.5 million eligible people across the UK who have not yet received a single dose of the vaccine.
I understand some people will have what they perceive to be legitimate concerns about the vaccine and a year ago when the programme started I probably would have had some sympathy with that point of view. However 13 months on from the first vaccine being administered in the UK anyone with any level of intelligence at all who has actually bothered to do any credible research on the vaccines over the past year, instead of taking their information from Facebook, will realise that the vaccines are incredibly safe and is the way that we get out of this crisis.
We are now at the stage where the overwhelming majority are now protecting those people who aren't protecting themselves which I just find unacceptable and if fining people as a last resort means that the overwhelming majority can return to a normal life then it's something I'm prepared to support, albeit reluctantly.
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12-01-2022 12:48 PM #59991
Also, may I add we seriously need to understand and comity to vaccinating the rest of the world.
No point focusing on 5m Brits when there’s 4 billion people globally (50%) who are not fully vaccinated.
J
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12-01-2022 01:08 PM #59992
Daily Scottish update;
* 7,606 new cases since yesterday - 19.1% positivity rate
Increase of 58 in the confirmed cases in hospital since yesterday - 1,537
Increase of 5 in the confirmed cases in intensive care since yesterday - 59
4,394,756 people have now received their first dose of the vaccine - 1,067 people since yesterday
4,054,752 people have now received their second dose of the vaccine - 3,117 people since yesterday
3,145,537 people have now received a booster vaccination - 15,035 people since yesterday
21 deaths registered since yesterday
* Whilst improving, there continues to be large volumes of tests being processed by labs; this has impacted turnaround times resulting in delays between specimen’s beings taken and results being received and reported. PHS are continuing to monitor the situation.
On 5 January 2022, the Scottish Government announced that people who do not have symptoms will no longer be asked to take a polymerase chain reaction (PCR) test to confirm a positive Lateral Flow Device (LFD) result. Instead, anyone with a positive LFD, who does not have symptoms, should report the result online as soon as the test is done. In order to ensure that we continue to provide the most accurate information, changes have been made to the national COVID-19 case definition to reflect this revised testing strategy. At present, we report on PCR tests only. From Thursday 13 January, we will begin reporting on the number of people with a COVID-19 infection confirmed by either a first LFD or PCR positive test.
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12-01-2022 01:20 PM #59993
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12-01-2022 01:41 PM #59994This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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12-01-2022 01:43 PM #59995This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
but test positivity is coming down quite fast. It was 26.1% last Wednesday.
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12-01-2022 02:07 PM #59996This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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12-01-2022 03:05 PM #59997
129,587 cases and 398 deaths registered in the UK today.
Slight drop in the number of patients in hospital and also ICU across the UK.
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12-01-2022 03:11 PM #59998This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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12-01-2022 03:16 PM #59999This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I can 100% confirm that the man is a total wackjob. I attended a seminar he was at the last time I was over on campus at Stanford and he's as mad as a box of frogs.It's hard to stitch my own back with these shaky hands
But even harder to accept the scars you left were planned
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12-01-2022 03:17 PM #60000This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Mon the Hibs.
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