Coronavirus

[Col2]

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There is of course no smoking gun but its yet another example of the poor leadership we have in Scotland.

It seems pretty clear that the recent restrictions were poorly targeted and had next to no impact at all on our experiences. They did however have a significant impact on some businesses and some of their staff.

I am sure come 14:15 we will see some changes, but I will not be surprised if somehow its all the fault of Westminster.

Well said. We are seeing the start of back tracking mode now. I suspect some releasing of restrictions “with a heavy heart” and “if westminister gave us more support I might take a different view”.

The ignoring of SA data and insight, the almost sheer snobbery (by the whole of the UK leaders) led to knee jerk decisions that impacted significantly several businesses and created an environment of fear and panic over the festive period (mental health and wellbeing).

And still almost 2 years into this we don’t have any data that clearly links infections with the targeted areas of restrictions.

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Well said. We are seeing the start of back tracking mode now. I suspect some releasing of restrictions “with a heavy heart” and “if westminister gave us more support I might take a different view”.

The ignoring of SA data and insight, the almost sheer snobbery (by the whole of the UK leaders) led to knee jerk decisions that impacted significantly several businesses and created an environment of fear and panic over the festive period (mental health and wellbeing).

And still almost 2 years into this we don’t have any data that clearly links infections with the targeted areas of restrictions.

Yip.

I don't imagine they'll allow hospitality to trade freely from next week though as that would be too far of a backtrack to essentially what England have.

[The Harp Awakes]

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176% increase in hospital patients in Lothian with Covid since 29/12 (less than 2 weeks ago).

Steady on now, don't let reality get in the way of spin and conjecture

[AugustaHibs]

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Steady on now, don't let reality get in the way of spin and conjecture

I’d like to see the breakdown of those in being treated for covid

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Mike Bird

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The way that current London Covid wave is translating (or rather not translating) into ventilations is astounding. The number of ventilated patients relative to cases 3wks earlier is less than a third of its August low, which was itself less than a tenth of the Alpha peak

[Col2]

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I’d like to see the breakdown of those in being treated for covid

PHS say it will be “weeks and months” before more data is available. So should be about June? Or we can use two health board stats covering 7 days?

[Santa Cruz]

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PHS say it will be “weeks and months” before more data is available. So should about June?

PHS did publish data on hospital acquired infections. I looked at it last year after I read a report on the then named Shielding Group, as many deaths in the group were linked to hospital visits. It was quite detailed data, broken down by HB and then hospital.

[Smartie]

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Yip.

I don't imagine they'll allow hospitality to trade freely from next week though as that would be too far of a backtrack to essentially what England have.

Whilst the last few posts about the cynicism of the Scottish Government and their objectives don't surprise me, from the self interest and cynicism point of view I'd expect them to want to address the fact that they're alienating their own voters with the measures they've implemented long before they'd want to make any point about Westminster rule that has been made many times before.

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Utter **** the boris government

Jenni Lang
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On 20 May 2020 my baby brother was in ICU. He died on 23rd May. We couldn’t sit with him until they switched off his life support. My dad and I watched him take his last breaths over FaceTime. The words I want to use right now would get me kicked off Twitter #DowningStreetParties

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Scots could wear face masks for years under Nicola Sturgeon’s plan for living with Covid
First Minister says country needs to ask itself ‘what adaptations to pre-pandemic life’ might be needed

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...s-plan-living/

Looks like Sturgeon has abandoned her plan to completely eradicate COVID and is now planning to completely eradicate the tourism, hospitality and leisure industries in Scotland instead.

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Scots could wear face masks for years under Nicola Sturgeon’s plan for living with Covid
First Minister says country needs to ask itself ‘what adaptations to pre-pandemic life’ might be needed

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...s-plan-living/

Looks like Sturgeon has abandoned her plan to completely eradicate COVID and is now planning to completely eradicate the tourism, hospitality and leisure industries in Scotland instead.

What a strange take on the possible requirement to continue wearing masks.

[Sir David Gray]

The lifting of restrictions on large outdoor events in Scotland is expected to be announced this afternoon.

The move would allow football fans to return to stadiums when the Scottish Premiership's winter break ends next week.

It will also avoid Scotland's Six Nations rugby matches having to be played behind closed doors at Murrayfield.

A limit of 500 people at outdoor events has been in place since Boxing Day.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...itics-59953823

[Renfrew_Hibby]

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Scots could wear face masks for years under Nicola Sturgeon’s plan for living with Covid
First Minister says country needs to ask itself ‘what adaptations to pre-pandemic life’ might be needed

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...s-plan-living/

Looks like Sturgeon has abandoned her plan to completely eradicate COVID and is now planning to completely eradicate the tourism, hospitality and leisure industries in Scotland instead.

Get a grip of yourself man

[HendoDelivered]

Full crowds back again next week.

[Skol]

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Scots could wear face masks for years under Nicola Sturgeon’s plan for living with Covid
First Minister says country needs to ask itself ‘what adaptations to pre-pandemic life’ might be needed

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...s-plan-living/

Looks like Sturgeon has abandoned her plan to completely eradicate COVID and is now planning to completely eradicate the tourism, hospitality and leisure industries in Scotland instead.

I am no fan of Sturgeon, but I agree with others that this is an odd view to take of this.

I actually largely agree with Sturgeon on this, we need to adapt our lives for the time being to move towards living with Covid. This is likely to mean things like:

- masks in appropriate situations
- Annual vaccines
- Vaccine passports
- Isolation
- Testing

The specific details of these (and other measures) need to be worked out and get to a suitable balance. The answer cannot be lockdowns and ineffective restrictions.

[JeMeSouviens]

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I am no fan of Sturgeon, but I agree with others that this is an odd view to take of this.

I actually largely agree with Sturgeon on this, we need to adapt our lives for the time being to move towards living with Covid. This is likely to mean things like:

- masks in appropriate situations
- Annual vaccines
- Vaccine passports
- Isolation
- Testing

The specific details of these (and other measures) need to be worked out and get to a suitable balance. The answer cannot be lockdowns and ineffective restrictions.

I'd add a requirement for much better ventilation systems in indoor buildings, esp schools. I can't believe we've been so slow on this. Practically nothing seems to have been done.

[JeMeSouviens]

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The lifting of restrictions on large outdoor events in Scotland is expected to be announced this afternoon.

The move would allow football fans to return to stadiums when the Scottish Premiership's winter break ends next week.

It will also avoid Scotland's Six Nations rugby matches having to be played behind closed doors at Murrayfield.

A limit of 500 people at outdoor events has been in place since Boxing Day.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...itics-59953823

Liking the pic they used.

[Skol]

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I'd add a requirement for much better ventilation systems in indoor buildings, esp schools. I can't believe we've been so slow on this. Practically nothing seems to have been done.

Good point, I knew there were other key things I had missed and this is one.

[hibeedc]

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Get a grip of yourself man

Why does he need to get a grip ?

If I have the option of holidaying in Scotland with face masks or going over the border with no face masks I'll be going over the border.

[Billy Whizz]

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Liking the pic they used.

You and Ali

[Callum_62]

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Why does he need to get a grip ?

If I have the option of holidaying in Scotland with face masks or going over the border with no face masks I'll be going over the border.

I'm guessing to comes over as a tab melodramatic giving there is actually zero detail attributed to it



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[Santa Cruz]

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I am no fan of Sturgeon, but I agree with others that this is an odd view to take of this.

I actually largely agree with Sturgeon on this, we need to adapt our lives for the time being to move towards living with Covid. This is likely to mean things like:

- masks in appropriate situations
- Annual vaccines
- Vaccine passports
- Isolation
- Testing

The specific details of these (and other measures) need to be worked out and get to a suitable balance. The answer cannot be lockdowns and ineffective restrictions.

I only see the first two remaining. The vaccine passport system was pointless as wasn't used effectively enough to reduce transmission, the enforcement was weak. It serves no purpose at encouraging new vaccinations at this stage imo. Testing and isolation will likely phase out around Spring and be used in high risk settings and where there is a clinical need. Agree with JMS, sort the ventilation in public spaces, especially schools and that reduces transmission (they won't do that due to costs).

[SteveHFC]

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The lifting of restrictions on large outdoor events in Scotland is expected to be announced this afternoon.

The move would allow football fans to return to stadiums when the Scottish Premiership's winter break ends next week.

It will also avoid Scotland's Six Nations rugby matches having to be played behind closed doors at Murrayfield.

A limit of 500 people at outdoor events has been in place since Boxing Day.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...itics-59953823

[Callum_62]

The Australian Border Force (ABF) is investigating whether Novak Djokovic submitted a false travel declaration ahead of arrival in Australia, a source with knowledge of the investigation told CNN.

Djokovic declared he had not traveled and would not do so in the 14 days leading to his arrival in Australia on Wednesday January 5, according to a travel declaration submitted as evidence to the court determining whether he would be allowed to remain in Australia.

Various pictures taken during that two-week period appear to show Djokovic in both Spain and Serbia.

While court documents show that Tennis Australia filled out the travel declaration on Djokovic’s behalf, the information used was provided by Djokovic, an ABF officer at Melbourne airport on January 5 determined.

The penalty for submitting a false travel declaration carries a maximum penalty of 12 months prison, according to the Australian Department of Home Affairs

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[SideBurns]

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I only see the first two remaining. The vaccine passport system was pointless as wasn't used effectively enough to reduce transmission, the enforcement was weak. It serves no purpose at encouraging new vaccinations at this stage imo. Testing and isolation will likely phase out around Spring and be used in high risk settings and where there is a clinical need. Agree with JMS, sort the ventilation in public spaces, especially schools and that reduces transmission (they won't do that due to costs).

Agree with you, but the JCVI said recently that regular boosters for the whole population weren't realistic or probably necessary (or words to that effect) so reckon even annual vaccination might just focus on those in vulnerable groups.

[Sir David Gray]

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The Australian Border Force (ABF) is investigating whether Novak Djokovic submitted a false travel declaration ahead of arrival in Australia, a source with knowledge of the investigation told CNN.

Djokovic declared he had not traveled and would not do so in the 14 days leading to his arrival in Australia on Wednesday January 5, according to a travel declaration submitted as evidence to the court determining whether he would be allowed to remain in Australia.

Various pictures taken during that two-week period appear to show Djokovic in both Spain and Serbia.

While court documents show that Tennis Australia filled out the travel declaration on Djokovic’s behalf, the information used was provided by Djokovic, an ABF officer at Melbourne airport on January 5 determined.

The penalty for submitting a false travel declaration carries a maximum penalty of 12 months prison, according to the Australian Department of Home Affairs

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Whilst the Australian Government hasn't covered themselves in glory over this, if this is true and he's still allowed to stay for the Australian Open it would be an utter joke.

[Santa Cruz]

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Agree with you, but the JCVI said recently that regular boosters for the whole population weren't realistic or probably necessary (or words to that effect) so reckon even annual vaccination might just focus on those in vulnerable groups.

Yeah I agree.

[Sir David Gray]

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I am no fan of Sturgeon, but I agree with others that this is an odd view to take of this.

I actually largely agree with Sturgeon on this, we need to adapt our lives for the time being to move towards living with Covid. This is likely to mean things like:

- masks in appropriate situations
- Annual vaccines
- Vaccine passports
- Isolation
- Testing

The specific details of these (and other measures) need to be worked out and get to a suitable balance. The answer cannot be lockdowns and ineffective restrictions.

As long as "appropriate situations" for masks is limited to medical environments like hospitals and GP surgeries then I would be happy with that.

[HibsGW]

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Whilst the Australian Government hasn't covered themselves in glory over this, if this is true and he's still allowed to stay for the Australian Open it would be an utter joke.

If this is actually true he’ll need to be properly punished for it, they can’t just let him off for being famous with how much spotlight there is on the situation. Still plenty to go it seems amongst the chaos.

[Sir David Gray]

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If this is actually true he’ll need to be properly punished for it, they can’t just let him off for being famous with how much spotlight there is on the situation. Still plenty to go it seems amongst the chaos.

If he's made a false declaration on his paperwork, even if it's been done on his behalf by Tennis Australia, then he should be arrested.