Winter 2021-22 transfer thread

[MWHIBBIES]

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He’s not on life changing money though. Even if he was on 10k a week for the next 3 years (which he isn’t), that’s 1.5m minus tax and NI and he’s be lucky to be earning 2-250k a year for that period. That’s not money you could survive on for life with a young family and you’d hope another 50 years left to live.

This move would offer him that and for me he’s be daft not to push for it.

There is far more to life than money. I personally think he'd be daft to disappear to that dump for his prime years.

[SaulGoodman]

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Obviously I will fully get behind him, just my opinion I’m not holding out much hope!

You say that but you’ve already decided he’ll not be good enough so first mistake you’ll be right on his back.

[Unseen work]

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Don’t want to sound negative but this boy on loan doesn’t excite me. Hope I’m wrong but I’m not expecting much 22 year old and hardly kicked a ball got a feeling he could be a Nathan wood type!

I mentioned earlier in the threat that I was the same until I read up about him.

Started off at Oostende and played a couple of games before going to Eupen on loan where he played the majority of games that season in the Belgian top flight at 19.

Norwich then signed him and he went on several loans which on paper don’t look great.

However when you factor in Covid and the fact he has been out injured with a knee injury it explains why his appearances may look low.

He went on trial at Coventry in the summer after just returning from injury and although unfit they said he was rapid, strong and good on the ball. Albeit a bit rash and raw.

The fact Norwich signed him at 19 gives me hope these something about him instead of a player that’s just came through at that club since they were young.

He’s also played 7 times for the Belgian 21s - although Omeonga also done similar.

I think he has all the physical attributes needed for the league. Hopefully he has the composure and learns the style we want.

[IncredibleHibee]

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There is far more to life than money. I personally think he'd be daft to disappear to that dump for his prime years.

why do you keep calling the middle east a dump? Have you ever experienced it? I am sure there are nice places to live out there.

[loanheadhibby]

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I 100% believe it. He is already on life changing money. He signed a contract and Hibs can hold him to it if they like. We must ensure the absolute best deal for Hibernian, not Martin Boyle.

I’m genuinely surprised that you would deny the guy this move, if it’s what we wants. You’re right he signed a contract with Hibs. He didn’t have to. Could have left for virtually nothing but signed a new contract.

Did right by the club and himself. Hopefully the club will do right by him and get a decent fee for him.

[MWHIBBIES]

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I’m genuinely surprised that you would deny the guy this move, if it’s what we wants. You’re right he signed a contract with Hibs. He didn’t have to. Could have left for virtually nothing but signed a new contract.

Did right by the club and himself. Hopefully the club will do right by him and get a decent fee for him.

I would not deny him anything if Hibs demands are met. No cut price deal so he can make mega bucks.

Hibs have done as much if not more for Martin Boyle as he has done for Hibs, I personally don't feel we owe him anything. Same as he doesn't owe us anything.

[Crunchie]

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I would not deny him anything if Hibs demands are met. No cut price deal so he can make mega bucks.

Hibs have done as much if not more for Martin Boyle as he has done for Hibs, I personally don't feel we owe him anything. Same as he doesn't owe us anything.

You're coming across as a tad bitter, or jealous even.

[Unseen work]

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There is far more to life than money. I personally think he'd be daft to disappear to that dump for his prime years.

I think Boyle would be off his head to not leave.

The money is staggering and whilst there’s more to life than money, you’re talking 2-3 years.

Him and his family could fly over and earn 20k a week. Clubs over there normally end up chucking in other benefits too like your accommodation and car. He’d be living a very luxurious lifestyle and if his wife and kids wanted to go home for a while they’d have plenty money to fly back to visit family.

I’d be off in an instant.

Whilst I want Hibs to get a good fee for him, he also helped us by signing a new deal that removed the 500k clause.

Yes I get he’s paid well in that contract but this is night and day.

[MWHIBBIES]

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You're coming across as a tad bitter, or jealous even.

No. I just have a different opinion. I say this about every single player who gets linked with a move. Trust me, I'm absolutely not jealous.

Martin Boyle is a Hibs player, he has my 100% support. I love the guy, great player. Hibs don't owe him a big move, that is all.

[HoboHarry]

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There is far more to life than money. I personally think he'd be daft to disappear to that dump for his prime years.

Honestly laughed when I read that. He'd be nuts to turn down an opportunity to set his family up for life. Lol.....

[Ozyhibby]

Until Hibs asking price is met then there is no discussion to be had. Contracts are there to be honoured by both sides. We don’t go asking perpetually injured players like Magennis or Murphy if we can terminate their contracts early because that would be the wrong thing to do. Likewise, Boyle will have to hope that our asking price is met because it’s just as wrong for him to want to terminate a contract just because a better one has come along.


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[B.H.F.C]

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I’m genuinely surprised that you would deny the guy this move, if it’s what we wants. You’re right he signed a contract with Hibs. He didn’t have to. Could have left for virtually nothing but signed a new contract.

Did right by the club and himself. Hopefully the club will do right by him and get a decent fee for him.

I’m no convinced him signing his new deal was to do right by us. More likely the best option for him at the time.

As long as we get a deal that’s good for us then, as much as I’d rather keep him, he can’t be grudged his move. He’s certainly earned it.

[MWHIBBIES]

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Honestly laughed when I read that. He'd be nuts to turn down an opportunity to set his family up for life. Lol.....

and yet, people do it all the time.

There is more to life than money. If Boyle only wanted money, he wouldn't have signed the new deal. He'd get more money as a free agent.

[loanheadhibby]

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I 100% believe it. He is already on life changing money. He signed a contract and Hibs can hold him to it if they like. We must ensure the absolute best deal for Hibernian, not Martin Boyle.

I’m genuinely surprised that you would deny the guy this move, if it’s what we wants. You’re right he signed a contract with Hibs. He didn’t have to. Could have left for virtually nothing but signed a new contract.

Did right by the club and himself. Hopefully the club will do right by him and get a decent fee for him.

[ahibby]

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Nah it’s just giving an opinion which is what a forum is for.

The issue is you said you didnt want to sound negativd then you wrote a negative opinion. However your opinion may well be justified so thats not the issue. The guy is described as being raw so not exactly completely ready to hold a place.

[J-C]

I don't think Boyle has asked for a move, so don't understand anyone that thinks he's at it wanting more money or Hibs not standing by him etc. He signed a new deal last year and is happy here, a bid has come in from abroad and duly we've told him about it, he's asked to see if it's worth thinking about but as yet our valuation hasn't been met. I'm pretty sure Boyle will be kept up to date with what's going on and what we will accept as an offer, it'll then be up to him if he wants to take it further.

[CapitalGreen]

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I don’t think anyone has suggested he is being lifted out of poverty? We are talking life changing money here. A reputed £1 million a year tax free. That would be going from £10k gross to an equivalent of £36-40k net.

You’re not suggesting we deny the guy of at least discussing the option?

I’m happy for him to go if we receive a fee commensurate with what the club values him. He signed a new contract a few months ago which removed a release clause so he will be under no illusion that he won’t be sold for less than what we value him.

The idea that we should just accept a bid below what we value him simply because the wage he would get is large is absolute nonsense.

[MWHIBBIES]

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I’m happy for him to go if we receive a fee commensurate with what the club values him. He signed a new contract a few months ago which removed a release clause so he will be under no illusion that he won’t be sold for less than what we value him.

The idea that we should just accept a bid below what we value him simply because the wage he would get is large is absolute nonsense.

[davhibby]

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I know people won’t think we will, but for me if Boyle goes we need to go and buy a replacement.

His numbers the last couple of years have been brilliant. Also his ability to take is up the park and take on a lot of responsibility.

We can’t put that on one of the new young guys.

For me I’d be taking Jordan Jones or someone similar that I’ve probably never heard of.

Jones isn’t getting a game and supposedly is leaving. His goals and assists is good wherever he plays and he’s quick and direct

Can I ask what you see in Jordan Jones? If it was 3 years ago I’d understand your point but he’s not come anywhere close to hitting his Killie levels since and has an attitude that’s somewhere in between Jason Cummings and Leigh Griffiths. I’d be expecting us to push the boat out for someone significantly better than that as a replacement for Boyle.

[loanheadhibby]

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I’m no convinced him signing his new deal was to do right by us. More likely the best option for him at the time.

As long as we get a deal that’s good for us then, as much as I’d rather keep him, he can’t be grudged his move. He’s certainly earned it.

Surely the last time the best option would have been to run his contract down and leave for free? Any signing on fee would have been his alone.

Agree about a good deal and I’m sure Hibs will not stand in his way. It’s a bit of a balancing act for Hibs as well. We want to entice young talent to ER and if we start stalling player moves to greater riches, it may put off some youngsters.

[Callum_62]

I'm guessing that another norweign boy might be out target if Boyle goes

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[ElginHibbie]

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I don't think Boyle has asked for a move, so don't understand anyone that thinks he's at it wanting more money or Hibs not standing by him etc. He signed a new deal last year and is happy here, a bid has come in from abroad and duly we've told him about it, he's asked to see if it's worth thinking about but as yet our valuation hasn't been met. I'm pretty sure Boyle will be kept up to date with what's going on and what we will accept as an offer, it'll then be up to him if he wants to take it further.

Sky Sports saying he is keen to speak to them anyway

[Ozyhibby]

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Sky Sports saying he is keen to speak to them anyway

He better hope they value him as much as Hibs do then.


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[Aldo]

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Sky Sports saying he is keen to speak to them anyway

Speculation on behalf of Sky Sports imho. I’m sure the only way they can speak with him is if they agree a fee with the club?

Maybe wrong though!


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[Hibs90]

No messing about in terms of getting players in nice and early this window. Good to see.

[B.H.F.C]

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Surely the last time the best option would have been to run his contract down and leave for free? Any signing on fee would have been his alone.

Agree about a good deal and I’m sure Hibs will not stand in his way. It’s a bit of a balancing act for Hibs as well. We want to entice young talent to ER and if we start stalling player moves to greater riches, it may put off some youngsters.

Would have been a risk for him to do that with no guarantees. He’s reputedly on very good money at Hibs from signing that contract. Who’d been in for him at that point, Aberdeen? He’ll have signed his deal at Hibs because it was the best deal for him, not to look after us IMO. And rightly so.

We knocked back moves for Nisbet and Porteous last year and it’s not stopped a number of young players coming to us since. Need to look after ourselves first and foremost IMO.

[Greenworld]

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I’m happy for him to go if we receive a fee commensurate with what the club values him. He signed a new contract a few months ago which removed a release clause so he will be under no illusion that he won’t be sold for less than what we value him.

The idea that we should just accept a bid below what we value him simply because the wage he would get is large is absolute nonsense.

Spot on its no big secret Hibs want 3 million plus for there best player.
The money being offered in wages is how it works out there they generally get the players out of contract so offer more money to get them to go.
I am sure when the email arrives saying 3 million then martin can go oh ok I will talk to them . 30 second later he says ive decided to go.

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[J-C]

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Sky Sports saying he is keen to speak to them anyway

He'll be keen to speak to see what they're offering but he'll be under no illusion that if Hibs valuation isn't met, he'll be going nowhere.

[brog]

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Sky Sports saying he is keen to speak to them anyway

They're just repeating what The Sun said.

[Unseen work]

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Can I ask what you see in Jordan Jones? If it was 3 years ago I’d understand your point but he’s not come anywhere close to hitting his Killie levels since and has an attitude that’s somewhere in between Jason Cummings and Leigh Griffiths. I’d be expecting us to push the boat out for someone significantly better than that as a replacement for Boyle.

Just always rated him as a player to be honest and think he’d suit our system well, having previously done well in the league.

Think he done well on loan last season at Sunderland too IIRC.

Not necessarily saying it must be him, but someone similar style who is a bit more proven and quality.