Shaun Maloney - Style of play

[Col2]

Closing down quicker. Quicker passing. More movement/overlapping. Still play from the back but fewer long balls.

Really enjoyed watching us today on the TV.

[cameronw-hfc]

Absolutely baffled people can't see the pretty blatant changes. Passing the ball about, 70%+ possession today at times.

Not meaning to be offensive, but it seems to me like night and day. And I was a fan of Ross, but surely everyone can see we're playing different football?

[Libby Hibby]

Won 3 on the bounce in the league and the 3 we have played are all poor…only on .net

[Stewboy]

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Won 3 on the bounce in the league and the 3 we have played are all poor…only on .net

Yup. And remember we were bottom of the form league

[Northernhibee]

I know it’s very early, but I have a feeling that Maloney is going to turn out to be a very good manager indeed.

The way he carries himself with a calm positivity yet is always looking on how to improve reminds me a bit of Brendan Rogers. If he ends up half as good as him we’ve got an exciting couple of seasons ahead

[GonzoReturns]

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We also already won 3 1 at Tannadice this season.

Dodgy penalty and a disallowed goal yip good comparison 👍👍

[jacomo]

Great start.

It’s clear that we are trying to press harder and dominate possession, and we’ve got our rewards in the first two games.

However, in both matches we’ve then sat deep the last 10–15 minutes and invited pressure, no doubt because we’ve tired.

Is this something we can fix with new players? Im not sure. I think it’s going to be a feature of our play because we can’t keep that intensity for 90 minutes.

However, if we score the goals and are then holding onto a lead then I will take that every week.

[Northernhibee]

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Great start.

It’s clear that we are trying to press harder and dominate possession, and we’ve got our rewards in the first two games.

However, in both matches we’ve then sat deep the last 10–15 minutes and invited pressure, no doubt because we’ve tired.

Is this something we can fix with new players? Im not sure. I think it’s going to be a feature of our play because we can’t keep that intensity for 90 minutes.

However, if we score the goals and are then holding onto a lead then I will take that every week.

I think that’s where the conditioning coach comes in. If we can get to the point where we can sustain that over 90 minutes then we’re in a really good place.

[B.H.F.C]

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Great start.

It’s clear that we are trying to press harder and dominate possession, and we’ve got our rewards in the first two games.

However, in both matches we’ve then sat deep the last 10–15 minutes and invited pressure, no doubt because we’ve tired.

Is this something we can fix with new players? Im not sure. I think it’s going to be a feature of our play because we can’t keep that intensity for 90 minutes.

However, if we score the goals and are then holding onto a lead then I will take that every week.

I don’t think the intention is to sit deep, it’s just from playing every few days since mid November.

However, when they did score it wasn’t panic stations, we went right up the park and scored.

[Unseen work]

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Great start.

It’s clear that we are trying to press harder and dominate possession, and we’ve got our rewards in the first two games.

However, in both matches we’ve then sat deep the last 10–15 minutes and invited pressure, no doubt because we’ve tired.

Is this something we can fix with new players? Im not sure. I think it’s going to be a feature of our play because we can’t keep that intensity for 90 minutes.

However, if we score the goals and are then holding onto a lead then I will take that every week.

IMO that’s just football and the standard of this level.

We completely dominated the first half. They would have got a rollicking and made a sub which allowed them to press us higher.

It was obvious imo that they’d come flying out the traps second half but what did they create?

For me that’s where January will be important for Maloney. In both post match interviews he has said the importance of being braver, being better and playing out. To me he’ll be specifically meaning when the game is a bit tougher and the opposition press you, don’t panic and play the pass as that’s when the gaps open up.

I imagine he’ll recruit to suit that style which will hopefully help.

But in Scottish football teams will always have a lift after a rollicking from their manager imo.

[roo62]

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Absolutely baffled people can't see the pretty blatant changes. Passing the ball about, 70%+ possession today at times.

Not meaning to be offensive, but it seems to me like night and day. And I was a fan of Ross, but surely everyone can see we're playing different football?

I agree and amazing that someone like Drey Wright comes in and plays so well at pace - looking forward to getting a look at Joe Newell who is a baller upping the tempo and linking the play higher up the pitch and hoping we get a chance to see if Hallberg can fit into the system too. It may be that Ross's style didn't suit a number of players who may surprise us in the second half of the season. Think Gogic and the lad Scott will struggle though, they are careless with the ball and this style calls for quick thinking, control and movement. I see more goals too.
Its early days but this has a good feel about it for the rest of the season for me.

[Nakedmanoncrack]

There have definitely been noticeable changes, its a good start, though we are benefiting at the moment from other teams not knowing exactly how we will set up, which is a big change - every opposition manager knew how we would play during the previous managers reign. Hopefully Shaun's teams never become so predictable.

[brog]

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Dodgy penalty and a disallowed goal yip good comparison 👍👍

We won by the same score at the same ground in the space of 3 months. That seems a pretty valid comparison to me. If you want to analyse it in detail however our dodgy pen last time was matched by our dodgy offside goal today and Dundee United were a much stronger team 3 months ago.

[bingo70]

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We won by the same score at the same ground in the space of 3 months. That seems a pretty valid comparison to me. If you want to analyse it in detail however our dodgy pen last time was matched by our dodgy offside goal today and Dundee United were a much stronger team 3 months ago.

I think this is where the argument about Ross came in.

Ross got a very good 3-1 win there in the cup but after it there was a feeling we got very fortunate and despite a very good start, it wasn’t particularly enjoyable to watch as we got battered and had to withstand lots of heavy pressure.

Same result today but just a much more enjoyable game to watch IMO.

Some people only care about the end result, other people how we get there.

[GonzoReturns]

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We won by the same score at the same ground in the space of 3 months. That seems a pretty valid comparison to me. If you want to analyse it in detail however our dodgy pen last time was matched by our dodgy offside goal today and Dundee United were a much stronger team 3 months ago.

Time will tell. Todays performance was much more dominant all about opinion.

[Ozyhibby]

The change in style is clear for all to see but I would also say that it has still to be put under any real pressure. Aberdeen and Utd were both very poor this week. First half today Utd let Doyle Hayes and Wright have as much room as they wanted. In the second half they got touch tight on them a bit more and it definitely showed. I doubt any of the top 3 will make that mistake v us. I really think we will need better in that position as we go forward.
This is the way I would like to see Hibs play but we will need a lot more creativity in the final third.


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[brog]

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I think this is where the argument about Ross came in.

Ross got a very good 3-1 win there in the cup but after it there was a feeling we got very fortunate and despite a very good start, it wasn’t particularly enjoyable to watch as we got battered and had to withstand lots of heavy pressure.

Same result today but just a much more enjoyable game to watch IMO.

Some people only care about the end result, other people how we get there.

I don't disagree with any of that. I just don't think we can compare today with our shocking home performance against United without also recognising our earlier win at Tannadice. FWIW I also enjoyed today much more, I hated our 2nd half in LC game. I suspect however that right now results are by far the priority, if we can do it with a bit style then that's a bonus.

[brog]

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Time will tell. Todays performance was much more dominant all about opinion.

I agree with that.

[Hibee Mac]

I'm really enjoying watching us build a team with a clear style of play. You can clearly see what we're trying to implement and already it's getting more out of the players we have at our disposal.

Also, I think both games have been a prime example of how the best form of defence is actually to keep hold of the ball and be brave in your passing/ball retention. Utd and Aberdeen barely had a shot on target in 180 mins of football because we've done a great job of keeping a high line and pressing to hurry them into mistakes.

People can take a pessimistic view and say the opposition were poor but that's because we've played well. All with 2 or 3 training sessions maximum, it's a fantastic turnaround and I can't wait to see how Maloney has us playing in a month.

[gbhibby]

Under Jack Ross we were too predictable and too rigid and it was a difficult and a frustrating watch at times.Shaun wants to play at a higher tempo closing down and hunting in packs as was evident today. He does not seem to be scared to play a different formation to suit the opposition we are playing. Today's game showed that. Looking forward to the journey under him and the more entertaining brand of football he wants the team to play

[delbert]

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Under Jack Ross we were too predictable and too rigid and it was a difficult and a frustrating watch at times.Shaun wants to play at a higher tempo closing down and hunting in packs as was evident today. He does not seem to be scared to play a different formation to suit the opposition we are playing. Today's game showed that. Looking forward to the journey under him and the more entertaining brand of football he wants the team to play

The higher tempo is the key to going from a good team to a very good team, if we can continue to close teams down that wee bit quicker (certainly quicker than under Ross) then we deny them the time and space to hurt us, something I think which has cost us dear against pretty average side, St Johnstone and Ross County spring to mind.

[houstonhibbee]

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Absolutely baffled people can't see the pretty blatant changes. Passing the ball about, 70%+ possession today at times.

Not meaning to be offensive, but it seems to me like night and day. And I was a fan of Ross, but surely everyone can see we're playing different football?

Totally agree. Yes we're still keeping possession but the difference as you say is night and day

[Nicho87]

Already loving the style

How the pundits are still saying they are baffled by jack Ross departing is beyond me now

Players had stopped running for him yes

But nothing mentioned on we are already playing and dominating matches.

The football yesterday was superb. Keep it up hibs

[ddoc]

I am confused by those that do not see a marked difference in how the team is playing.

The number of hopefully punts up the park from the back have been minimal.
Macey’s distribution by hand compared to his usual punt into touch.
The fact that the ball is on the ground and not what we have suffered before the change of management.
It is like chalk and cheese, in such a small time frame, to what I have been watching for the last 18 months, and long may it continue.

[hibsbollah]

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Do you say 'could of' and 'should of' as well?

I'd lock the lot of you up for bad grammar.

Maloney shamefully resorted to ‘we go again’ cliche on Hibs tv last night. Horrific chat.

[Keith_M]

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Dodgy penalty and a disallowed goal yip good comparison 👍👍

Versus an offside goal and playing against ten men for the last 15 minutes

Swings and roundabouts.

[Callum_62]

I'm someone who though Ross got harshly treated

I can't see how anyone cant see the changes that have been brought into the team though

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[Keith_M]

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I'm someone who though Ross got harshly treated

I can't see how anyone can see the changes that have been brought into the team though

We can argue all day about what Ross would have done and the quality of the opposition but it's clear to see that our style of play is very different (which is what this thread is discussing).

[Libby Hibby]

Sometimes things just need to change…JR did well for us. Would he have turned the slump around? I believe he wouldn’t but who knows. What is pretty evident is that SM has got us playing at a higher pace, higher up the pitch when we are with or without the ball.

Anyone who says there isn’t an improvement has either not witnessed many games under JR or is simply at it I’m afraid.

[greenlex]

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I'm someone who though Ross got harshly treated

I can't see how anyone can see the changes that have been brought into the team though

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Exactly. Where I am. We will never know if Ross could have this team winning consistently so I reckon it’s actually pointless discussing it. We are certainly progressing under the new regime so far.