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22-12-2021 12:07 PM #58141
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22-12-2021 12:07 PM #58142This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I'd have no problem if they said smothing along the lines of:
Despite early evidence suggesting Omicron is less severe, we'd like to err on the side of caution.
That would be a reasonable statement.
To lie and say there is no evidence is misleading the public.
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22-12-2021 12:08 PM #58143
Fans planning to attend football games on Wednesday are being urged to stay at home, as new Covid rules limiting the size of crowds don’t come into effect until Boxing Day.
Deputy first minister John Swinney said the cancellation of games is a matter for the Scottish Professional Football League (SPFL).
Speaking on BBC Radio Scotland’s Good Morning Scotland programme on Wednesday morning, Swinney said: “Our guidance to people is basically to restrict their social interaction – to stay at home more than they would do so.
“I would encourage people to do exactly that.
“There are clearly dangers of people travelling to football matches, because they’re going to be going on to multiple forms of transport, they will be car-sharing, they may well be using supporters’ buses and all the rest of it.
“These are opportunities for the virus to spread and we know that the Omicron variant spreads much more aggressively than is the case (with other variants).
“If people want to protect their community then I would encourage them to follow the guidance that we have set, which is to stay at home and restrict their social interaction.”
https://news.stv.tv/sport/football-f...-rules-imposed
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22-12-2021 12:09 PM #58144This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
All of them trying to "save Christmas" with their ridiculous rules.
The virus that is so dangerous it takes days off for religious festivals.
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22-12-2021 12:09 PM #58145This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
You are completely right about workies though. Was in Greggs earlier and seems a Hi-viz jacket protects you from covid better than a mask.
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22-12-2021 12:11 PM #58146This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Yes the evidence is incomplete and there are consideration that have to be taken into account but to say there is 'no evidence' or even 'no compelling evidence' is a lie.
I think treading with caution is a sensible policy at this point but actively denying evidence exists is just odd. Aside from anything else it seems to naively underestimate how accessible this is. People aren't getting it from some guy with a YouTube channel. It's respected institutions releasing this stuff.
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22-12-2021 12:12 PM #58147This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
And we will still have the massive staff shortages in the hospital due to isolating staff. That means cancer wards not operating as they should etc.
if it wasn’t for the massive staff shortages in our hospitals just now which is causing them to grind to a halt, I’d be with you 100%. We are all boosted now so let’s get opened up. But the NHS is struggling to cope and it’s a very real problem right now.
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22-12-2021 12:15 PM #58148This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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22-12-2021 12:15 PM #58149This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
United we stand here....
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22-12-2021 12:15 PM #58150This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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22-12-2021 12:16 PM #58151
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https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/ne...s-week-1364554
New restrictions in England could be avoided if hospital admissions in London do not soar this week .There are signs that Omicron cases in the capital and across the UK could be plateauing – but remain at a high level
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22-12-2021 12:18 PM #58152This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
United we stand here....
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22-12-2021 12:19 PM #58153This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
But if the higher transmissibility means that more people are going to hospital then it will still overwhelm an already stretched health service.
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22-12-2021 12:20 PM #58154
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And I agree 30% less virulent could still be a huge problem if massive sustained spike. I'm all for restrictions if that looks likely, all eyes on London. If its a real drop then we're fine
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22-12-2021 12:20 PM #58155This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteLess talk, more gifs.
21.05.16
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22-12-2021 12:21 PM #58156This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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22-12-2021 12:23 PM #58157This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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22-12-2021 12:23 PM #58158This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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22-12-2021 12:24 PM #58159
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22-12-2021 12:26 PM #58160This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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22-12-2021 12:26 PM #58161This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Fwiw I agree with you hence saying we need to tread with caution, and move our isolation into line with England to ease some pressure, but I stand by the point that Drakeford is, along with anyone else who denies a growing body of evidence exists, a liar.
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22-12-2021 12:27 PM #58162
US army scientists have created a vax targeted to work against all SARS-Cov-2 variants and the original SARS as well.
https://www.defenseone.com/technolog...riants/360089/
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22-12-2021 12:27 PM #58163
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https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-new...paign=sharebar
JVCI to recommend children under 12 'should NOT receive Covid vaccine unless vulnerable'
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22-12-2021 12:32 PM #58164This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
United we stand here....
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22-12-2021 12:33 PM #58165This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
My only point in this is that I know the hospitals are really struggling to cope with staff shortages just now and that is why we need to try slow down this wave. After that I think we need to just get on with it. Everyone who wants a vaccine can now get one so we need move to a more normal way of working. After this wave is over, we need to get to a situation where you only isolate if you have it. We can’t have ten people not working every time someone gets it. And the vaccine needs rolled out every winter. And if you don’t get a vaccine and get sick, we’ll that’s on you.
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22-12-2021 12:39 PM #58166This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Control over Scotlands economy is reserved to Westminster. We can’t change VAT, corporation tax, capital gains tax etc. when it comes to who is responsible for what, I would say the SG have more responsibility for health and the UK govt for the economy. It would be great if the SG had both and a more joined up response might be forthcoming but I’m no defender of the current set up.
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22-12-2021 12:41 PM #58167This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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22-12-2021 12:44 PM #58168
Following on from my post yesterday I can now confirm I have had my first two doses removed from my body.
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22-12-2021 12:45 PM #58169This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
United we stand here....
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22-12-2021 12:47 PM #58170This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
A quick thread on pertinent/justified media questions and coverage.
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Dec 17 - Nicola Sturgeon asked about cutting self-isolation time. Reply: “Yeah, that would really help because that would spread infection even further.”
Dec 22 - John Swinney says self-isolation changes being considered.
2/4 https://t.co/Pi7QYwG020
Dec 17 - Nicola Sturgeon ridicules idea of finding more business support cash from her Budget in answer to Press Q. “I don't know where you think I should take it from? The health service?"
Dec 21 - Ms Sturgeon announces “a further £100 million from elsewhere in our budget”
3/4 https://t.co/qwjBk1prV9
Dec 18 - Nicola Sturgeon rubbishes Herald on Sunday front page about recall of parliament between Christmas New Year. Prompts 5.3k likes, accusations of "media lies", "bull****", etc
Dec 21 - It’s confirmed Parliament is to be recalled between Christmas and New Year
4/4 https://t.co/XuwGpsiAnD
https://twitter.com/ChrisMusson/stat...q3vgj3OlA&s=19
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