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    Quote Originally Posted by Half Pint View Post
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    They both stink of desperation signings. The recruitment in recent years has been nothing short of awful.
    That’s absolute guff, you cannot possibly compare them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The 90+2 View Post
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    David Marshall should be a priority for January.

    Macey isn't good enough and is especially ***** with the ball at his feet.
    With the exception of his kicking I actually think Macey is a decent keepers though thought he should have done better with the first yesterday.

    Think he is a good shot stopper though and has saved us plenty this season.

    That said, if we have an opportunity to get Marshall we should be taking it. He would be a fantastic signing and bring some much needed experience

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unseen work View Post
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    With the exception of his kicking I actually think Macey is a decent keepers though thought he should have done better with the first yesterday.

    Think he is a good shot stopper though and has saved us plenty this season.

    That said, if we have an opportunity to get Marshall we should be taking it. He would be a fantastic signing and bring some much needed experience
    I just don't see it with him. Played excellent in the derby mind you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jones28 View Post
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    That’s absolute guff, you cannot possibly compare them.
    What you talking about ? The original post was how poor both signings have been due to injury & time on pitch not comparing them

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    Quote Originally Posted by The 90+2 View Post
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    David Marshall should be a priority for January.

    Macey isn't good enough and is especially ***** with the ball at his feet.
    I agree, macey isn't the answer for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The 90+2 View Post
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    David Marshall should be a priority for January.

    Macey isn't good enough and is especially ***** with the ball at his feet.
    I don't think Macey is that bad, definitely very good for his age and will get better. Doesn't mean to say there aren't better keepers out there and Marshall is one of them....he would improve us. He wouldn't fit in with the policy of developing and selling young player philosophy I read so much about, makes me think we a far more likely to stick with a good young keeper with potential than bring in a better older one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The 90+2 View Post
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    David Marshall should be a priority for January.

    Macey isn't good enough and is especially ***** with the ball at his feet.
    I don’t think we’ll be desperate to bring in a new keeper, Macey has been decent enough. We’d probably give the young lad a try before bringing in someone new.

    United we stand here....

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    Robert Snodgrsss available in January.

    Someone Caldwell and Maloney know very well.

    Bags of quality but getting on a bit.

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    I don’t think we’ll be desperate to bring in a new keeper, Macey has been decent enough. We’d probably give the young lad a try before bringing in someone new.
    He's not even near the top six keepers in the country. We should 100% looking for someone much better to form the core of our side.

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    Macey will probably cost us more points than he wins us. Compare to Gordon for them who will win them 10+ points easy and it’s obvious we need an upgrade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The 90+2 View Post
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    He's not even near the top six keepers in the country. We should 100% looking for someone much better to form the core of our side.
    I’m not seeing what others seem to see with him, other than his kicking I think he’s been good. He’s started coming for a lot more crosses recently and I can’t think of any howlers he’s made.

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    Macey will probably cost us more points than he wins us. Compare to Gordon for them who will win them 10+ points easy and it’s obvious we need an upgrade.
    Can’t think of one situation that’s involved him alone that’s even led to a goal never mind a lost point.

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    To be fair medical science has moved on since the 50's and 70's. If Cropley/Ormond/Reilly picked up those injuries in this era, they may well have carried on playing well in to their 30's. and I can bet they were not being paid anywhere near what guys are being paid today (pro rata obviously).
    Willie actually played until he was 35 and he was capped at about 32 IIRC. Crops played until he was 31. The point is though they both spent long periods out the game through injury. Those injuries were not by choice though Crops was the bravest player I ever saw.

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    With Mueller coming in soon and hopefully MacKay back to full fitness soon I really hope we try offload Murphy, even a mutual consent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tambo View Post
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    With Mueller coming in soon and hopefully MacKay back to full fitness soon I really hope we try offload Murphy, even a mutual consent.

    he only has 4/5 months remaining, if i were him i wouldn't accept anything less than what i'm due


    besides, i think the new manager will want to assess every player first

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    With our new management team in place you’d like to think we’ll make full use of their connections.

    Maloney - Celtic 19s & Belgium first team.

    Surely he’ll have good knowledge of players at the younger age groups and those available to us. If we could get a couple of young Belgian players it could be a huge boost as they’ve a fantastic reputation of bringing through quality.

    Caldwell - Wigan, Chesterfield, Patrick, Newcastle and Man City

    Again I’d hope Caldwell had a list of under 23s from his time coaching and being loans coach that he feels can come in and have an instant impact. Celtic, Aberdeen and Hearts have all used this market very well lately and it’s one we’ve been poor in.

    Valeria Zuddas - Lazio, Reggina, Hadjuk Split, Kolkheti Poti, Spartaki Tskhinvali, UTA Arad in Romania and Budapest Honvéd.

    That’s a large selection of teams from counties we rarely scout or recruit from. Hopefully we can unearth a gem or two from there
    Give me another Denes Rosa 😀. What happened with him in the end anyway, he only played a handful of games and left…was he just rubbish?

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    I’m not seeing what others seem to see with him, other than his kicking I think he’s been good. He’s started coming for a lot more crosses recently and I can’t think of any howlers he’s made.
    Totally agree with you m' Lord. I think he is decent enough and has potential to improve. Can't be easy playing behind that defence. The previous 'keeper was a bombscare in my eyes if I'm allowed to say that? My opinion only... backlash expected!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lord bunberry View Post
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    I don’t think we’ll be desperate to bring in a new keeper, Macey has been decent enough. We’d probably give the young lad a try before bringing in someone new.
    I agree give Dabrowski a run out,looked pretty good in some of the games I’ve seen in him.
    Might save Ron some money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The 90+2 View Post
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    He's not even near the top six keepers in the country. We should 100% looking for someone much better to form the core of our side.
    What games has he been poor in that have cost us and who are the other 6 keepers that are better than him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inconsequential View Post
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    Totally agree with you m' Lord. I think he is decent enough and has potential to improve. Can't be easy playing behind that defence. The previous 'keeper was a bombscare in my eyes if I'm allowed to say that? My opinion only... backlash expected!
    I really liked Rocky as well, it’s a shame he left imo.
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    I agree give Dabrowski a run out,looked pretty good in some of the games I’ve seen in him.
    Might save Ron some money.
    I never understood why Dabrowski didn’t play in the league cup games this season, he’s been here a while, I’d say it’s time to have a look at him in a proper game. Hopefully Maloney will play him against Cove.

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    Can’t think of one situation that’s involved him alone that’s even led to a goal never mind a lost point.
    Really? Beaten at his near post against St Mirren in the last game at ER. Morelos' winner in the last game at Ibrox went straight through him as well. A better keeper (such as Marciano) would've saved Ramsey and Watt's goals against Dons and Motherwell. Carter-Vickers goal at ER is a howler also.

    In addition to his kicking which often puts us under pressure straight from goal kicks and his positional sense is poor.

    But no bother he's fantastic, we shouldn't be looking at better.
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    Can’t think of one situation that’s involved him alone that’s even led to a goal never mind a lost point.
    Hibs v Motherwell recently - Watt equaliser
    Hibs v Celtic - Kyogo - 1st goal think he should have done better

    Macey's kicking is a slight issue though - yesterday the players were raging at him 1s half for hitting it straight down the pitch to the Celtic CB's. He seems to go underneath the ball and it goes higher than lower and more direct.

    I've noticed the back line look at him a few times when he hasn't come for some crosses or dealt with a few balls - happened in Dundee home game giving away a needless corner.

    Keepers mistakes are obviously easy to pick apart more than an outfielder but I still think we downgraded after Marciano (who had his own faults too).

    Macey has been fine but I feel we can get better and a keeper who makes more saves - Gordon is a prime example as mentioned above.

    We need improvement in other areas but if we are to improve the spine of the team is so important to sort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldot View Post
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    What games has he been poor in that have cost us and who are the other 6 keepers that are better than him
    It’s a the classic opinion where someone totally ignores all the saves he makes when deciding he’s not good enough.

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    Dabrowski showed his quality in the Arsenal game and if Macey is faltering (which I don't really see, tbh) than might as well give him a shot. He needs a run of games sooner or later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CallumHibs07 View Post
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    Really? Beaten at his near post against St Mirren in the last game at ER. Morelos' winner in the last game at Ibrox went straight through him as well. A better keeper (such as Marciano) would've saved Ramsey and Watt's goals against Dons and Motherwell. Carter-Vickers goal at ER is a howler also.

    In addition to his kicking which often puts us under pressure straight from goal kicks and his positional sense is poor.

    But no bother he's fantastic, we shouldn't be looking at better.
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    Hibs v Motherwell recently - Watt equaliser
    Hibs v Celtic - Kyogo - 1st goal think he should have done better

    Macey's kicking is a slight issue though - yesterday the players were raging at him 1s half for hitting it straight down the pitch to the Celtic CB's. He seems to go underneath the ball and it goes higher than lower and more direct.

    I've noticed the back line look at him a few times when he hasn't come for some crosses or dealt with a few balls - happened in Dundee home game giving away a needless corner.

    Keepers mistakes are obviously easy to pick apart more than an outfielder but I still think we downgraded after Marciano (who had his own faults too).

    Macey has been fine but I feel we can get better and a keeper who makes more saves - Gordon is a prime example as mentioned above.

    We need improvement in other areas but if we are to improve the spine of the team is so important to sort.
    All opinions rather than hard evidence. If there’s money for wages or transfers there other areas in more need of attention. Obviously IMO.

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    Maloney in his first interview dodged the question about being backed in the transfer window
    Immediately deflected to being backed in other ways and to bring in the backroom staff he wanted
    Then said all players will get a clean sheet to impress and he would look to the academy
    Maybe didn’t want to demotivate the players the way Butcher did when he first came in but found it strange he didn’t at least say Once I have taken stock of what we have I know I will have funds to strengthen squad if needed


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    Hibs v Motherwell recently - Watt equaliser
    Hibs v Celtic - Kyogo - 1st goal think he should have done better

    Macey's kicking is a slight issue though - yesterday the players were raging at him 1s half for hitting it straight down the pitch to the Celtic CB's. He seems to go underneath the ball and it goes higher than lower and more direct.

    I've noticed the back line look at him a few times when he hasn't come for some crosses or dealt with a few balls - happened in Dundee home game giving away a needless corner.

    Keepers mistakes are obviously easy to pick apart more than an outfielder but I still think we downgraded after Marciano (who had his own faults too).

    Macey has been fine but I feel we can get better and a keeper who makes more saves - Gordon is a prime example as mentioned above.

    We need improvement in other areas but if we are to improve the spine of the team is so important to sort.
    Graig Gordon is world class. If he wasn't a Jambo he'd be nowhere near Hearts. There's no way we'd get a keeper of that quality. Macey is probably the best we'll get. No worse than Marciano.

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    Graig Gordon is world class. If he wasn't a Jambo he'd be nowhere near Hearts. There's no way we'd get a keeper of that quality. Macey is probably the best we'll get. No worse than Marciano.
    No worse than Marciano. You're having a laugh eh? With Macey its almost like there is a goal a game he could do better with. Marciano made mistakes occasionally yeah, but he single handedly kept us in games at times. Macey is not a good keeper sadly.

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    No worse than Marciano. You're having a laugh eh? With Macey its almost like there is a goal a game he could do better with. Marciano made mistakes occasionally yeah, but he single handedly kept us in games at times. Macey is not a good keeper sadly.
    A goal a game what utter nonsense...there is far bigger issues in the current squad than Macey

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    A goal a game what utter nonsense...there is far bigger issues in the current squad than Macey
    Maybe there is but he is up there in changes needing made. Maybe not a goal a game, but it feels like it sometimes.

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