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    Quote Originally Posted by marinello59 View Post
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    It’s not just taking a PCR test when you return from abroad, you now have to self isolate until you receive your result, a big change.
    Will people isolate though.


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    Are the government not in the process of scrapping test and trace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverhibee View Post
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    Will people isolate though.
    My friend is from Gauteng province and has just returned from there in the past few days. She is awaiting results of her test and is self-isolating. I would hope that others do too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverhibee View Post
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    Are the government not in the process of scrapping test and trace.
    Reported the other day on the BBC it is extended in Scotland until September '22.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverhibee View Post
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    Will people isolate though.
    I have a family member who will now miss the cup final because of this new requirement. I would be complying as well if I had to. I think most of us would.
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    Liked this tweet from Friday and has proved true. If its more infectious than delta its cute to think we'll stop it, it would be the dominant strain pretty soon and even full lockdown wouldn't stop it.

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    BY THE TIME YOU CLOSE YOUR BORDERS, THE VARIANT IS ALREADY THERE. (my first all caps tweet)

    It's irrelevant.

    There is a incubation delay, diagnostic delay, sequencing delay, reporting delay, and then we hear about it.

    Ie, a minimum of 6 and mostly like a few months of delays have already happened before the government knew to do anything.

    It's just for show.

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    Lots of papers running with South African Medical community saying it looks a milder disease. But surely that's down to vaccines and past infection rather than it being milder. Also to small numbers just now I think

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    Good news for your morning.
    “The new Omicron variant of the Coronavirus results in MILD disease, WITHOUT prominent symptoms.” -Angelique Coetzee, the chairwoman of the South African Medical Association.

    "It presents mild disease with symptoms being sore muscles and tiredness for a day or two not feeling well. So far, we have detected that those infected do not suffer loss of taste or smell. They might have a slight cough. There are no prominent symptoms. Of those infected some

    are currently being treated at home.” Hospitals have NOT been overburdened by Omicron patients and the new strain has not been detected in vaccinated individuals there. We know those vaccinated from other countries infected have been mild or asymptomatic.
    https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...w/87949404.cms

    NOTE: Unvaccinated individuals make up 65% of hospitalizations currently. 35% are partially vaccinated (one dose). 0% (ZERO) vaccinated individuals. Please consider getting vaccinated. This can make a huge difference between a MILD case and a MODERATE/SEVERE one.
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    i was in a still quite busy Asda in Livi at 10pm on thursday night and was so disappointed to see so many(all approx 20-30) without masks, was in the centre last monday and was quite pleased to see an upturn in folk wearing masks i thought, maybe one day all the young ones will realise/understand all the reasons for wearing a freakin mask

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    And Scotland if we follow as we are lateral flow also. But probably sensible for the next few weeks until we get the results of testing the variant

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    Are the government not in the process of scrapping test and trace.
    They've just opened 4 new sites this week, Wishaw, Renfrew, Irvine and Ayr. Contracts for staff running to August. Their not scrapping anything.

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    39,567 cases and 131 deaths registered in the UK today.

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    This certainly seems to be getting taken very seriously. Clearly the scientists advising the government are worried enough about this.

    Just need to keep everything crossed that things look ok after the next few weeks.

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    Same as England on new rules

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    Lots of papers running with South African Medical community saying it looks a milder disease. But surely that's down to vaccines and past infection rather than it being milder. Also to small numbers just now I think

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    Good news for your morning.
    “The new Omicron variant of the Coronavirus results in MILD disease, WITHOUT prominent symptoms.” -Angelique Coetzee, the chairwoman of the South African Medical Association.

    "It presents mild disease with symptoms being sore muscles and tiredness for a day or two not feeling well. So far, we have detected that those infected do not suffer loss of taste or smell. They might have a slight cough. There are no prominent symptoms. Of those infected some

    are currently being treated at home.” Hospitals have NOT been overburdened by Omicron patients and the new strain has not been detected in vaccinated individuals there. We know those vaccinated from other countries infected have been mild or asymptomatic.
    https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...w/87949404.cms

    NOTE: Unvaccinated individuals make up 65% of hospitalizations currently. 35% are partially vaccinated (one dose). 0% (ZERO) vaccinated individuals. Please consider getting vaccinated. This can make a huge difference between a MILD case and a MODERATE/SEVERE one.
    This chart shows how well the vaccine works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg View Post
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    This chart shows how well the vaccine works.
    That's some chart. Wish the world done more collectively to stop vaccine hesitancy. Saw plenty celebrities against but few strongly for, might not be good for sales

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    Same as England on new rules
    I think it's reserved and remains policy until UKGov decide otherwise. RoUK Gov's could have adopted the policy earlier or extend it if they wanted but they can't diverge earlier on a UK Border entry requirement policy afaik.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DH1875 View Post
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    They've just opened 4 new sites this week, Wishaw, Renfrew, Irvine and Ayr. Contracts for staff running to August. Their not scrapping anything.
    I was talking about the English test & trace, the multi billion pound one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverhibee View Post
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    He said they would be injecting 6 million people over the next few days, how does he know this, wear masks on public transport but we aren’t forcing people to do it. Deary me PM,.
    The Prime Minister said it will "boost the booster" programme by doing 6 million booster jabs in the next 3 weeks in England.
    In the last 3 weeks there have been 6.275 million booster jabs in England- does he have any idea what he is talking about?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    Hope so. No sure what's up with right wingers worldwide and being antivax.
    Don’t tread on me, individual is king, a man’s home is his castle, freedom of expression, small government, greed is good, look after number 1.

    All reasons why those on the right are anti vaxxers, anti restrictions, anti lockdown.

    A real shame. Surely they can make more trickle down money if their workforce is healthy.

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    I was talking about the English test & trace, the multi billion pound one.
    The Scottish one ain't cheap. Their paying at least £700000 PER WEEK on wages alone. Then the cost of renting buildings and car parks then the cost of renting stuff like generators, out door lighting, cabins, fences etc....from companies like sunbelt. Throw in the cost of security guards and stuff it must be costing at least £1 million A WEEK to run it.

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    Most immunologists I've read today including two on sage, Vallance and Andrew crowxford seem to be confident vaccines will prevent severe disease, but could cause more systematic disease. Beta was the same with two doses although hammered with three. I think they will try to slow this down and push getting 3 doses quickly and with high uptake.

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    UKHSA thinks Omicron might behave similar to Beta vs vaccines. The difference is, Omicron looks to be more infectious than Beta at least, possibly as much or more infectious than Delta. So absolutely no messing about

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    FWIW I think current triple-dosers are in good shape.
    I think we will lose some VE for protection against symptomatic infection, and also transmission. But to put a % on either at the moment is just speculation so I will perch on this fence with a cautious glare.

    Sir Patrick Vallance said" if you keep boosting you actually get broader coverage, because the immune system knows it has to get broader, also the antibody levels go so high with the boosters it actually causes enough coverage of variants that they are still effective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DH1875 View Post
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    The Scottish one ain't cheap. Their paying at least £700000 PER WEEK on wages alone. Then the cost of renting buildings and car parks then the cost of renting stuff like generators, out door lighting, cabins, fences etc....from companies like sunbelt. Throw in the cost of security guards and stuff it must be costing at least £1 million A WEEK to run it.
    Scotland will spend similar to England as the vast majority goes on testing. 6 billion on labs, 9 billion on lateral flow tests 2 billion on pcr testing, 200 million on testing for variants ect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marinello59 View Post
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    I have a family member who will now miss the cup final because of this new requirement. I would be complying as well if I had to. I think most of us would.
    Maybe if you come from Scotland but the English have had freedom day and think covid is all but finished with, I can’t see many down south isolating when coming back from abroad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875 View Post
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    i was in a still quite busy Asda in Livi at 10pm on thursday night and was so disappointed to see so many(all approx 20-30) without masks, was in the centre last monday and was quite pleased to see an upturn in folk wearing masks i thought, maybe one day all the young ones will realise/understand all the reasons for wearing a freakin mask
    Most young people only wear masks to hide their plooks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DH1875 View Post
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    The Scottish one ain't cheap. Their paying at least £700000 PER WEEK on wages alone. Then the cost of renting buildings and car parks then the cost of renting stuff like generators, out door lighting, cabins, fences etc....from companies like sunbelt. Throw in the cost of security guards and stuff it must be costing at least £1 million A WEEK to run it.
    Still less expensive than trying to cope with 100s more in hospital.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marinello59 View Post
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    It’s not just taking a PCR test when you return from abroad, you now have to self isolate until you receive your result, a big change.
    Oh, I didn't realise that. I'm due to go to Tenerife on Friday so this means I have to isolate on return until I have my result?

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    Oh, I didn't realise that. I'm due to go to Tenerife on Friday so this means I have to isolate on return until I have my result?
    Yep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callum_62 View Post
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    The Prime Minister said it will "boost the booster" programme by doing 6 million booster jabs in the next 3 weeks in England.
    In the last 3 weeks there have been 6.275 million booster jabs in England- does he have any idea what he is talking about?!

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    The erse can’t even bring himself to wear a mask in hospitals when he’s being filmed. A clown of a bloke.

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