Slight change of topic, but I was surprised how much police was around on Sunday in and around Hampden.
Did the march proceed okay? Walk past it with the fans surrounded by police.
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23-11-2021 12:32 PM #61
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23-11-2021 01:52 PM #62This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
That's my point exactly.
Anybody that is happy to sit in a stadium where the majority (yes, the majority) of fans are singing sectarian songs and is happy to go along every week despite that is showing a distinct lack of morals.
A previous poster made the point that if you replaced the sectarian singing with racist singing, how would they feel about that?
Let's be honest, there really is no difference in sitting among thousands of white supremacists singing racist songs and constantly using the N word, to sitting among thousands of bigots singing songs about 'fenians' and calling everybody else tarrier or taigs.
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23-11-2021 02:08 PM #63This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
It seems to be more an anti Irish and more oddly and recently anti Scottish (atleast in terms of Scottish independence).
Im pretty certain a huge proportion of Rangers fans aren't Protestant but are actually atheist, despite what they might think. I think some people in this country think if you aren't a church going Catholic it means you're a Protestant.
Genuinely interested to hear your perspective as someone who lives and works with Rangers supporters.Last edited by Since90+2; 23-11-2021 at 02:17 PM.
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23-11-2021 02:25 PM #64This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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23-11-2021 02:26 PM #65
I think there two kinds of rangers supporters, which I divide into huns and rangers supporters. Huns are the FTP, f the Irish types, who would turn up for orange walks and call anyone and everyone who wasn't like them a tarrier etc. To me they are the majority. The others guys, rangers supporters you often meet through work find the huns to be embarressing, yet nevertheless turn a blind eye and ear to what goes on around them. I have asked guys about it and they think it is a mungo minority of load mouths that are into the FTP stuff. Scratch a bit further and you can a variety of answers like what about the sellic and the idea of the 90 minute bigot, plus its not really as bad as folk make out.
They also do point out that all Hibs fans are casuals and our support is very violent.
A few a limited few have admitted that is embarressing, but would be unable to confront the issues.
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23-11-2021 02:34 PM #66
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23-11-2021 02:43 PM #68
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23-11-2021 03:49 PM #69
You never have to scratch far below the surface with these supposed 'moderate' huns to see it's ingrained in all of them.
A more vile institution in sport you'll struggle to find.
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23-11-2021 04:05 PM #70This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Yeah, you're absolutely right about the anti-Irish thing. I find that really weird as well as the majority of Rangers Fans I know have no issue outside of matches with people that are of an RC persuasion, or are Irish.
Sadly there's a hard core of real bigots, then there's the people that join in with them on match days.
As for the anti-Scottish side; I think I mentioned already that I saw some of them giving abuse to a local resident on Sunday for having a Saltire in their window.
There's actually been quite a few Saltires in people's windows round here because Scotland were playing so well and getting decent results, but those idiots seemed to presume it was only there to wind them up.
Weird bunch
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23-11-2021 08:18 PM #71This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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23-11-2021 08:29 PM #72
The wall of silence around the bottle throwing incidents at the game is an absolute disgrace but no surprise really.
Brushed under the carpet as usual despite being spotted on tv and match photos.
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23-11-2021 08:49 PM #74
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23-11-2021 09:57 PM #75This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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24-11-2021 06:21 AM #76
In an overwhelmingly secular 21st century Scotland the "Protestant" label The Rangers fans attach to themselves is simply that, a tribal label. The vast majority have probably never been in the kirk and are even less likely to be able to name the Moderator of the COS. As others have said it's essentially anti-Irish racism towards anyone or any institution which is deemed to have Irish Catholic connections.
I've a couple of Rangers pals who stopped going decades ago when they were old enough to see the hatred for what it is. I have a couple of extended family members who still go and turn a blind eye to the bigotry. They don't and won't call it out because they feel they are very much in the minority. When I ask them if they would still go if the word fenian in songs was replaced by the n word they become very defensive.
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24-11-2021 06:24 AM #77This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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24-11-2021 07:12 AM #78
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I know of enlighten Hearts fans that are embarrassed by the racist/bigotry from a minority of their fans. I was a Chelsea fan in the mud sixties and early eighties but stopped supporting because of the large Nation Front allegiance amongst their support. Don't know if the attached us correct but does point to a large number of sane Rangers' fans.
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24-11-2021 10:25 AM #79
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My abiding memory of the Sticky Buns as a kid (11/12?) was being spat on down Easter Road by one of them.
Never even remotely anything like that from Celts fans in all the time I went to those fixtures.
The Huns really are THE cesspit of European football.
I loathe them and everything they stand for. Vile, vile pee pul.
They can shove their pathetic majorette twirling, clown dressing, big drum beating nonsense right up there!
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24-11-2021 10:28 AM #80
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