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    Quote Originally Posted by NORTHERNHIBBY View Post
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    Almost like he was asking under orders.

    Editorial. He'll be charged with leading a line or letting loose according to his producers editorial. Newspaper articles are the same. I don't think a flagship BBC political programme should be so heavily trimmed though.


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    As yet more evidence comes forward about just how corrupt the current and former members of this Tory Government are, I lose even more respect for people that express their right to vote for them.



    "Half of all ministers who have left office in the Boris Johnson or Theresa May governments later took up posts with companies relevant to their former government jobs

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    Patrick McLoughlin, a former transport secretary, now lists remunerated employment with Airlines UK, an industry lobbying body, and XRail, a railway services company

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    Former health ministers including Lord O’Shaughnessy, Nicola Blackwood and Steve Brine took jobs with private health companies, while the former energy minister John Hayes accepted a role at an energy company."



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    Levelling up cancelled. That means it will never go on to Edinburgh now either even though we are having to pay for it.


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    Levelling up cancelled. That means it will never go on to Edinburgh now either even though we are having to pay for it.


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    I've never understood how making it faster and easier to get to London from other cities would benefit those cities, surely easier access to London would only exasperate the brain drain from those areas and deprive local businesses of first choice employees.

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    Apparently the PM thinks Starmer is ‘pathetic’ as he has decided to 'congratulate the UK and somehow at the sametime attack myself'


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg View Post
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    I've never understood how making it faster and easier to get to London from other cities would benefit those cities, surely easier access to London would only exasperate the brain drain from those areas and deprive local businesses of first choice employees.
    I still remember the promises around the Euro Tunnel project "jump on a train in Scotland and get off in Paris"

    Was a bit peeved when the "Scotland" bit actually meant euro Central between Edinburgh and Glasgow rather than direct from each city... but you can imagine my dismay when they decided to end the route in Central London!

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    No 10 faces legal challenge to PM’s support for Priti Patel on bullying claims | Boris Johnson | The Guardian

    The government faces a legal challenge to Boris Johnson’s decision to back Priti Patel over bullying allegations, throwing a fresh spotlight on the prime minister’s approach to ethics in public life.
    Alex Allan, Johnson’s independent adviser on the ministerial code, resigned last year after the prime minister chose not to act on a critical report about Patel.
    After a Cabinet Office investigation, citing instances in which she had shouted and sworn at staff, Allan found Patel had displayed “behaviour that can be described as bullying” and that she had “not consistently met the high standards expected of her”.
    His report suggested she had breached the ministerial code, even if unintentionally.


    vile little thing, part of a vile cabinet, led by the most vile crime minister

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    Quote Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875 View Post
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    No 10 faces legal challenge to PM’s support for Priti Patel on bullying claims | Boris Johnson | The Guardian

    The government faces a legal challenge to Boris Johnson’s decision to back Priti Patel over bullying allegations, throwing a fresh spotlight on the prime minister’s approach to ethics in public life.
    Alex Allan, Johnson’s independent adviser on the ministerial code, resigned last year after the prime minister chose not to act on a critical report about Patel.
    After a Cabinet Office investigation, citing instances in which she had shouted and sworn at staff, Allan found Patel had displayed “behaviour that can be described as bullying” and that she had “not consistently met the high standards expected of her”.
    His report suggested she had breached the ministerial code, even if unintentionally.


    vile little thing, part of a vile cabinet, led by the most vile crime minister
    Bozo obviously expects a much higher standard of bullying than was achieved here.

    As the self appointed judge and jury of what is and isn't right in a democracy he decided early on that the viper that is Patel fell short, and could not therefore be found guilty of bullying in the nasty party sense.

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    It's not just the paid advocacy surrounding "2nd jobs" and directorships. Add in the free jollies, beanos and spiffing days out - in return for speeches and questions.



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    Levelling up cancelled. That means it will never go on to Edinburgh now either even though we are having to pay for it.


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    https://mobile.twitter.com/JenWilliamsMEN/status/1460340238811811842

    Loads of northern local papers M.E.N ect all doing the same front page in protest tomorrow. Huge own goal alienating the North, good

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    https://mobile.twitter.com/JenWilliamsMEN/status/1460340238811811842

    Loads of northern local papers M.E.N ect all doing the same front page in protest tomorrow. Huge own goal alienating the North, good
    They probably know the games up and will struggle to keep the wool over their eyes and just said **** it.

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    Its almost as though "levelling up" and the phrase "Northern Powerhouse" has the same gravitas as Trump talking about opening American coal mines.

    Total con merchants. Grifters, but get kudos because they "talk about it".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kato View Post
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    Its almost as though "levelling up" and the phrase "Northern Powerhouse" has the same gravitas as Trump talking about opening American coal mines.

    Total con merchants. Grifters, but get kudos because they "talk about it".

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    Bozo has already moved onto the next photo opportunity and soundbite, no point in spending too much time being associated with the latest u turn.

    Full focus will be on powerfully levelling houses up North. Just as soon as they can find a bus long enough to put it on the side of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bostonhibby View Post
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    Bozo has already moved onto the next photo opportunity and soundbite, no point in spending too much time being associated with the latest u turn.

    Full focus will be on powerfully levelling houses up North. Just as soon as they can find a bus long enough to put it on the side of.
    Johnson might not be in post long enough, now that a senior Tory's turned on his lovable old rogue of a pater.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    Johnson might not be in post long enough, now that a senior Tory's turned on his lovable old rogue of a pater.
    Standard practice, con them at the election, wheels come off before the next election, hide behind a new messiah who instantly becomes an unelected leader, sing their praises and get the snouts back in the trough.

    Gove's been remarkably well hidden lately.

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    Stanley Johnson accused of sexual harassment on two occasions, one in 2003, one in 2009.


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    Do you think your security can keep you in purity, you will not shake us off above or below. Scottish friction, Scottish fiction

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    The Mail seem to be going increasingly anti Johnson.

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    PM Awards General Poster of The Year 2015, 2016, 2017. Probably robbed in other years

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty Boy View Post
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    The Mail seem to be going increasingly anti Johnson.

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    Yes, or "Gove" as he's known in this dimension.

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    Tweet sent from a Conservative councillor yesterday. He's apologised for his "political tweet".


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    Tweet sent from a Conservative councillor yesterday. He's apologised for his "political tweet".
    Disgusting. Goering levels of propaganda there.

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    Interesting stuff in The Times with the letter from the five most recent Cabinet Secretaries.

    Standards rules should be tightened to constrain 'bad people' in government, all living ex cabinet secretaries declare

    The Times this morning publishes a letter (paywall) signed by all living former cabinet secretaries. The main points are moderately interesting although, because they are all English civil servants accustomed to communicating by implication and nuance, the real message is much stronger than a superficial reading suggests.

    In their letter, the five mandarins - Lord Butler of Brockwell, Lord Wilson of Dinton, Lord O’Donnell, Lord Turnbull and Lord Sedwill - say the government should implement the recommendations in the recent report from the Committee on Standards in Public Life. They say the commissioner for public appointments and the independent adviser on ministerial interests should be put on a statutory basis, and that rules about former ministers taking up business jobs need to be strengthened.

    On the ministerial code, they say it should be “strictly enforced”, but with a mechanism for recognising “that some breaches are more important than others”. The committee report says there should be a range of sanctions available for ministers who break the code, including apologies, fines and resignation.

    But the letter gets most interesting at the end. The five peers go on:

    Rules, though, will only take us so far. Good people will behave well. Bad people may find ways round whatever rules there are, and we should aim to frame regulations to make cheating them harder. But ultimately we need all in positions of trust to set an example: as Lord Evans of Weardale [chair of the Committee on Standards in Public Life] said, our political system is a common good that we all have a responsibility to preserve and improve.

    Peter Hennessy, the historian and crossbench peer, is credited with coining what he calls the “good chaps theory of government”. What he means by this is that, because large parts of the British constitution are not codified (or at least weren’t - it has changed a bit in recent years), and depend on informal norms, the whole system depends on the assumption that the key players will behave decently. What the former cabinet secretaries seem to be saying is that this no longer applies, and that tighter rules are needed because the “bad people theory of govenrment” is the one that applies now.

    Who could they possibly be referring to? You don’t need to be as clever as Hennessy to guess, although the ex-mandarins don’t say in their letter. On the Today programme this morning Nick Robinson was similarly coy when he asked Lord O’Donnell what might be done about a theoretical prime minister “who is not much interested in what the rules say”. Could rules ever force someone like that to uphold standards? O’Donnell replied:

    Well ... you could do quite a lot by rules and by legislation, by forcing people to behave in certain ways. But, ideally, you want people who have a strong instinct for public sector ethos and for obeying the rules. Good people make for good governance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibsbollah View Post
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    Disgusting. Goering levels of propaganda there.
    Meanwhile in the real world the nasty party has a fundraiser who actually does appear to think like an actual Nazi.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ind...721.html%3famp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bostonhibby View Post
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    Meanwhile in the real world the nasty party has a fundraiser who actually does appear to think like an actual Nazi.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ind...721.html%3famp

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    I'm guessing that,as heir to the throne of Rosebery, he's a Jambo.😉

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    The Mail seem to be going increasingly anti Johnson.

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    Liz Truss probably.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    I'm guessing that,as heir to the throne of Rosebery, he's a Jambo.
    You don't say

    Caspian primrose is a flump? The sort of guy the wore their pink and yellow fondant fancy top in reverence of?

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    You gotta be pleased with Boris for this....

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59311003

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhileTheChief.. View Post
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    You gotta be pleased with Boris for this....

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59311003
    Maybe more so if they hadn't filled their pockets beforehand and it would end up inevitable that this would be the case...


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    Stanley Johnson accused of inappropriately touching Tory MP Caroline Nokes (msn.com)


    A senior Conservative MP and a journalist have both accused Stanley Johnson of inappropriately touching them.




    no surprise in the slightest his son is a grubby repugnant little man as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhileTheChief.. View Post
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    You gotta be pleased with Boris for this....

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59311003
    Corbyn policy adopted by PM. He was probably a bit pee'd off that other had beaten him to the trough and filled themselves up while he was busy running the country(into the ground)

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