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    Cue mass exodus of Tory people wanting to be MP's.

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    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...box=1636379859

    Nothing to see here. This is why they tried so hard to undermine the system last week.


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    I just watched the clip on the BBC website where Bojo was getting questioned about it whilst visiting a hospital. His opening gambit is to talk about the great personal loss suffered by Paterson. They really are a horrendous shower.

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    I just watched the clip on the BBC website where Bojo was getting questioned about it whilst visiting a hospital. His opening gambit is to talk about the great personal loss suffered by Paterson. They really are a horrendous shower.
    He didn't get things entirely his way with Lord Paterson but, still determined to show that rules don't apply to him, he wanders about a hospital maskless. Posh boy ****wit, as Dorries would say.

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    Strange as they were so interested in it last week!!!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    He didn't get things entirely his way with Lord Paterson but, still determined to show that rules don't apply to him, he wanders about a hospital maskless. Posh boy ****wit, as Dorries would say.





    however, a hospital spokesperson sought to reassure the public he was following the rules
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    Quote Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875 View Post
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    however, a hospital spokesperson sought to reassure the public he was following the rules
    Mask? He should be huckled for that shirt.

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    Mask? He should be huckled for that shirt.

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    His slovenly appearance just shows a total disrespect for the position he holds.

    I don't for a minute believe he actually does respect the role he has, it seems like he sees it as a birthright of sorts, but a bit of a pretence wouldn't go amiss. It's so obviously contrived as well, both he and his advisors know the lovable rogue/Worzel Gummidge look plays well with the sort of people who base their voting intention on 'a guy you could have a pint with'.

    A horrible individual.

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    His slovenly appearance just shows a total disrespect for the position he holds.

    I don't for a minute believe he actually does respect the role he has, it seems like he sees it as a birthright of sorts, but a bit of a pretence wouldn't go amiss. It's so obviously contrived as well, both he and his advisors know the lovable rogue/Worzel Gummidge look plays well with the sort of people who base their voting intention on 'a guy you could have a pint with'.

    A horrible individual.
    The press went after socialists Michael Foot and Corbyn for looking like utter tramps, so I’m not going to get stuck into Bozo for him looking like he’s just fallen out of skip…it’s what he does and says that makes me viscerally despise the man. But there is definitely a double standard at work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kato View Post
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    Mask? He should be huckled for that shirt.

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    Not in the EPL for his ablities as a politician more like the conference league in terms of his ablities as a politician. Some of the stuff he comes out with he clearly has not read or does not understand his briefing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty Boy View Post
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    His slovenly appearance just shows a total disrespect for the position he holds.

    I don't for a minute believe he actually does respect the role he has, it seems like he sees it as a birthright of sorts, but a bit of a pretence wouldn't go amiss. It's so obviously contrived as well, both he and his advisors know the lovable rogue/Worzel Gummidge look plays well with the sort of people who base their voting intention on 'a guy you could have a pint with'.

    A horrible individual.
    Nice view from up there looking down on us?

    You think we’re so uneducated that that’s why we voted for him?

    You’re talking about regular, working class folks here. The same sort of folks that form the SNP base up here I’d imagine or that Labour would love to represent again down south.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhileTheChief.. View Post
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    Nice view from up there looking down on us?

    You think we’re so uneducated that that’s why we voted for him?

    You’re talking about regular, working class folks here. The same sort of folks that form the SNP base up here I’d imagine or that Labour would love to represent again down south.
    Under what education did you vote for him?

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    Nice view from up there looking down on us?

    You think we’re so uneducated that that’s why we voted for him?

    You’re talking about regular, working class folks here. The same sort of folks that form the SNP base up here I’d imagine or that Labour would love to represent again down south.
    I'm talking about the people who say they voted for him because he's the kind of guy they would like to have a pint with. That's it.

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    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.t...eaze-clampdown

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    rds Committee considering a ban on MP holding a second job as advisers or consultants. Seems like a great move. I imagine there’s a lot of MP very worried about their bottom line right now.


    That was a Corbyn policy I think. Quite right as it is starting to get ridiculous in terms of cash for peerages and contracts given to donors

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhileTheChief.. View Post
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    Nice view from up there looking down on us?

    You think we’re so uneducated that that’s why we voted for him?

    You’re talking about regular, working class folks here. The same sort of folks that form the SNP base up here I’d imagine or that Labour would love to represent again down south.
    I’m not sure what exactly you have a problem with there; voting for someone based on ‘who you want to have a pint with’ is massively misguided, don’t you agree?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhileTheChief.. View Post
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    Nice view from up there looking down on us?

    You think we’re so uneducated that that’s why we voted for him?

    You’re talking about regular, working class folks here. The same sort of folks that form the SNP base up here I’d imagine or that Labour would love to represent again down south.
    The reasons you gave for voting Tory the other day were contrary, vague and by your own admission ill-informed, with the idea put forward that your just a working class person so why should you be a politico.

    "I don't go reading every political manifesto or considering every policy before I decide who to vote for. Like a lot of people, I look to the leaders and what they are about."

    You also said you "like Boris".


    Fair enough. You're entitled to vote for someone if their eyes are less close together than their opponents if you want, but are you in a position to complain about appearing ignorant after posting that?

    Working class people used to the sharpest tools in the political box. Using it as an excuse for not being informed is pretty sad.

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    it's a pity they're now only starting to realise what Johnson and his cabal of corruptness have done to their party, it's a start though i guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875 View Post
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    it's a pity they're now only starting to realise what Johnson and his cabal of corruptness have done to their party, it's a start though i guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875 View Post
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    it's a pity they're now only starting to realise what Johnson and his cabal of corruptness have done to their party, it's a start though i guess

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    That was 2 years ago today!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiber-nation View Post
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    That was 2 years ago today!

    in that case it's a pity more,a LOT more haven't followed suit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kato View Post
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    Johnson and his cabal biggest "crime" is getting clumsy. Really good Conservative are adept at hiding their corruption.

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    it's a pity the last tory MP to retire from the house with at least a moral compass(i think) was Ken Clarke


    Leadsom and rees-mogg should own the events from last week and resign, as for the other 250+ ? that voted for corruption they will always be tainted, the 13 that voted against Johnson can at the very least hold their heads high..well at least until they start voting to punish the poor again anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875 View Post
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    it's a pity the last tory MP to retire from the house with at least a moral compass(i think) was Ken Clarke


    Leadsom and rees-mogg should own the events from last week and resign, as for the other 250+ ? that voted for corruption they will always be tainted, the 13 that voted against Johnson can at the very least hold their heads high..well at least until they start voting to punish the poor again anyway.
    Absolutely hilarious that the 250 are presenting themselves as victims.

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    it's a pity the last tory MP to retire from the house with at least a moral compass(i think) was Ken Clarke


    Leadsom and rees-mogg should own the events from last week and resign, as for the other 250+ ? that voted for corruption they will always be tainted, the 13 that voted against Johnson can at the very least hold their heads high..well at least until they start voting to punish the poor again anyway.
    I'm always wary of looking back with rose tinted specs but I think there is an older style conservative (small and big c) who is at best bemused and at worst alarmed by the current state of the Tory party.

    Someone like John Major was vocally anti Brexit and was particularly critical of the underhand tactics used by the leave machine. Equally he has put his head above the parapet last week and unequivocally condemned his party for their attempts to subvert parliament. He seemed genuinely horrified by their behaviour. He has also written extensively in the last few days, across multiple publications, about the folly of the UK triggering Article 16. He's no saint but he seems obviously hurt looking at the current openly corrupt, arch nationalist, populist personality cult guise the Tories have adopted.

    The fundamental issue is large swathes of the public still don't seem to be horrified by them. Either that or they see no realistic alternative. Neither is a good thing.

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    Can't say he doesnt tackle the hard questions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callum_62 View Post
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    Can't say he doesnt tackle the hard questions

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    The press went after socialists Michael Foot and Corbyn for looking like utter tramps, so I’m not going to get stuck into Bozo for him looking like he’s just fallen out of skip…it’s what he does and says that makes me viscerally despise the man. But there is definitely a double standard at work.
    My issue with Johnson is the look is important.

    He's openly admitted in the past he deliberately messed up his hair before TV appearances, maybe still does. It's all part of the buffoon act, his whole image is carefully crafted and the look is part of that. It's all an act. The newspaper columns, the casual jogging shots, HIGNFY, all of it was part of a bigger plan.

    Corbyn and Foot may have lacked sartorial elegance but it was real. With Johnson it's a distfation tactic and part of the painting of him as a bumbling buffoon rather than a dangerous demagogue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibsbollah View Post
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    I’m not sure what exactly you have a problem with there; voting for someone based on ‘who you want to have a pint with’ is massively misguided, don’t you agree?
    Of course.

    I think it’s pretty demeaning to assume that’s why scores of people voted for him though.

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    My issue with Johnson is the look is important.

    He's openly admitted in the past he deliberately messed up his hair before TV appearances, maybe still does. It's all part of the buffoon act, his whole image is carefully crafted and the look is part of that. It's all an act. The newspaper columns, the casual jogging shots, HIGNFY, all of it was part of a bigger plan.

    Corbyn and Foot may have lacked sartorial elegance but it was real. With Johnson it's a distfation tactic and part of the painting of him as a bumbling buffoon rather than a dangerous demagogue.
    I think folk are giving him credit he doesn’t deserve in making him out to be some sort of evil genius, with the appearance part of some sort of master plan.

    Everything I see suggests he’s a ****ing imbecile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty Boy View Post
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    My issue with Johnson is the look is important.

    He's openly admitted in the past he deliberately messed up his hair before TV appearances, maybe still does. It's all part of the buffoon act, his whole image is carefully crafted and the look is part of that. It's all an act. The newspaper columns, the casual jogging shots, HIGNFY, all of it was part of a bigger plan.

    Corbyn and Foot may have lacked sartorial elegance but it was real. With Johnson it's a distfation tactic and part of the painting of him as a bumbling buffoon rather than a dangerous demagogue.
    It's his costume. The Bullingdon Club's get-up when they go around smashing restaurants and bullying bar-staff is a costume. Rees-Mogg wears another one. It's there to annoy/impress/bamboozle, and it works.

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