Tories are still lying *******s

[Moulin Yarns]

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I notice the uk government is raising the living wage to 9.50. The real living wage foundation recommended wage 9.50 already. I wonder if they will raise it, would seem daft to have companies advertising they are a real living wage employer if its the same

In Scotland that applied from April this year. They are just trying to catch up.

[JeMeSouviens]

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Is that the same thing as the minimum wage?

Sort of, it's the min wage for 23+ year olds I think. Obviously under 23s don't get to live.

Having said that, even if just for 23+, it's amazing when the Tories actually do something right for once.

[Stairway 2 7]

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In Scotland that applied from April this year. They are just trying to catch up.

No the living wage for over 23s in Scotland is the same in England 8.91 it's rising in the budget to 9.50.

The Real living wage is a recommended wage from a charity foundation that they say people need to live. They say its 9.50 and 10.80 in London

These numbers are now the same, I've never seen that before. Although the real living wage haven't increased there recommendation in about a year

[Moulin Yarns]

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No the living wage for over 23s in Scotland is the same in England 8.91 it's rising in the budget to 9.50.

The Real living wage is a recommended wage from a charity foundation that they say people need to live. They say its 9.50 and 10.80 in London

These numbers are now the same, I've never seen that before. Although the real living wage haven't increased there recommendation in about a year

Apologies, it was the real living wage I looked at. Teach me for being too left leaning 😉

[Stairway 2 7]

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Apologies, it was the real living wage I looked at. Teach me for being too left leaning 😉

I think it's deliberately confusing. I hope the real living wage foundation counter with a higher number now.

And the tories doing 1 good policy is like a delicious piece of sweetcorn in a massive turn, which is actually what you will also find right now in most of England's beaches and rivers

[lord bunberry]

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Sort of, it's the min wage for 23+ year olds I think. Obviously under 23s don't get to live.

Having said that, even if just for 23+, it's amazing when the Tories actually do something right for once.

Cheers.

[Killiehibbie]

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Is that the same thing as the minimum wage?

Living wage is what used to be known as minimum wage until the government decided to try and confuse people. The real living wage is higher than this

[Ozyhibby]

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Living wage is what used to be known as minimum wage until the government decided to try and confuse people. The real living wage is higher than this

Yip. Unless there is a legal requirement to pay it then it doesn’t really matter what level they set it at.


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Yip. Unless there is a legal requirement to pay it then it doesn’t really matter what level they set it at.


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No there is a legal requirement to pay the living wage which is going up to 9.50. There isn't for the real living wage although that's 9.50 so that is the legal minimum anyway. Thousands of companies try to pay the real living wage so hopefully they raise it

[Killiehibbie]

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Yip. Unless there is a legal requirement to pay it then it doesn’t really matter what level they set it at.


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You have companies who sign up to be Real Living Wage employers, Diageo and GSK are two. They ensure everybody on their sites gets paid the RLW. Better if the just employed all the staff instead of contracting out jobs. Even worse is the RLW usually gets raised in November each year and the likes of WH Malcolm get away with raising it the following April because they get away with not implementing it for 6 months, that makes it half a RLW in my book

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https://twitter.com/ukiswitheu/statu...085121032?s=21

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He’s a f***ing idiot.

[Bostonhibby]

All perfectly in order I'm sure.

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[lapsedhibee]

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All perfectly in order I'm sure.

Careful now. If Owen finds out you've been abusing him on social media you'll likely be added to the list of people who caused his wife's death.

[Bostonhibby]

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Careful now. If Owen finds out you've been abusing him on social media you'll likely be added to the list of people who caused his wife's death.

All you've got to do to avoid this sort of stuff is live off the day jobs very generous package and allowances..........

Oh, and if you want clean hands over the awarding of contracts argue for a free, open and audited tendering process rather than expecting everyone to believe awarding contracts of this size arbitrarily to a business that pays an mp is okay. It's just beyond the pale but is a feature of Nasty Party Britain.

There were apparently existing suppliers who would have loved the chance to compete and deliver but this doesn't seem to have been the preferred option here.

Probably the same rigourous process that seen Matt Hancock's pub landlord win a contract as well.

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All you've got to do to avoid this sort of stuff is live off the day jobs very generous package and allowances..........

Oh, and if you want clean hands over the awarding of contracts argue for a free, open and audited tendering process rather than expecting everyone to believe awarding contracts of this size arbitrarily to a business that pays an mp is okay. It's just beyond the pale but is a feature of Nasty Party Britain.

There were apparently existing suppliers who would have loved the chance to compete and deliver but this doesn't seem to have been the preferred option here.

Probably the same rigourous process that seen Matt Hancock's pub landlord win a contract as well.

The shock is not that Paterson, Hancock and most/all of the rest of them are corrupt, as that's been obvious for a good while to everyone who's been paying attention, but that someone's at last being called out for it! Only now needs 10% of his constituents to call for his head and he's in proper trouble. Will they though? Why would they, when he's such a staunch Brexiter and Brexit's going so well?

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The shock is not that Paterson, Hancock and most/all of the rest of them are corrupt, as that's been obvious for a good while to everyone who's been paying attention, but that someone's at last being called out for it! Only now needs 10% of his constituents to call for his head and he's in proper trouble. Will they though? Why would they, when he's such a staunch Brexiter and Brexit's going so well?

It's about how far many of the supporters of this sort of person, and the wider party are prepared to bend over / doff their caps deferentially, and there's a way to go I fear.

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[ronaldo7]

Tories closing ranks for one of their own. The UK parliament is corrupt.

https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/stat...65781628112897

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59143727

[Bostonhibby]

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Tories closing ranks for one of their own. The UK parliament is corrupt.

https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/stat...65781628112897

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59143727

Yep, dont like how the rules caught one out, so change the rules, imagine there will be quite a few of those campaigning for change who have their snouts in similar troughs and don't fancy getting caught out.

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[hibsbollah]

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Tories closing ranks for one of their own. The UK parliament is corrupt.

https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/stat...65781628112897

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59143727

It’s absolutely astonishing. 3pm the vote is I believe. This Paterson character must have some dirt on someone…

[Ozyhibby]

Guaranteed that Douglas Ross and the rest of the Scottish Tories vote for more corruption. There are people in Scotland who think this is good for Scotland and we can’t do any better.


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[lord bunberry]

Angela Rayner made a good point today. When the Tory MP got away with any punishment for sexual harassment on a technicality, tories claimed there’s nothing they could do as they couldn’t change the rules. Now when one of their own is about to face the music they suddenly can change the rules.

[Hibrandenburg]

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Guaranteed that Douglas Ross and the rest of the Scottish Tories vote for more corruption. There are people in Scotland who think this is good for Scotland and we can’t do any better.


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It's as simple as that, a vote for or against corruption.

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Angela Rayner made a good point today. When the Tory MP got away with any punishment for sexual harassment on a technicality, tories claimed there’s nothing they could do as they couldn’t change the rules. Now when one of their own is about to face the music they suddenly can change the rules.

She was absolutely brilliant at PMQs today. If it was a boxing match it'd have been a referee stoppage in round one.

[Kato]

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Angela Rayner made a good point today. When the Tory MP got away with any punishment for sexual harassment on a technicality, tories claimed there’s nothing they could do as they couldn’t change the rules. Now when one of their own is about to face the music they suddenly can change the rules.

This gaslighting Govt in a nutshell.

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[Northernhibee]

Mogg: "The suicide of his wife is a greater punishment any that a House of Commons committee could inflict".

Utterly despicable from Rees-Mogg.

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Yep, dont like how the rules caught one out, so change the rules, imagine there will be quite a few of those campaigning for change who have their snouts in similar troughs and don't fancy getting caught out.

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Out of the 59 backbench Conservative MPs who have signed up to the motion scrapping the Standards Committee, nearly a quarter (14) have broken the rules themselves.

[Ozyhibby]

Amendment carried. Paid advocacy is no longer a banned practice.


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Amendment carried. Paid advocacy is no longer a banned practice.


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250 corrupt Tories. Who knew.

[ronaldo7]

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Amendment carried. Paid advocacy is no longer a banned practice.


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250 corrupt Tories. Who knew.