Coronavirus

[Allant1981]

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I don't know but I think if your past your 6 months you can or maybe it's if you missed an appt. I'm not at 6 months yet. I can ask and see .

Nope, no drop in for booster yet


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[Sir David Gray]

Breakdown of today's cases by council area;

Glasgow - 273
Fife - 266
North Lanarkshire - 208
Edinburgh - 191
South Lanarkshire - 157
West Lothian - 144
Aberdeenshire - 134
Highland - 124
East Ayrshire - 103
Renfrewshire - 100
Falkirk - 99
Perth and Kinross - 97
Dundee - 89
Aberdeen - 84
Stirling - 78
Dumfries and Galloway - 68
East Dunbartonshire - 63
Angus - 62
East Lothian - 58
Scottish Borders - 56
East Renfrewshire - 53
South Ayrshire - 52
Clackmannanshire - 51
West Dunbartonshire - 50
Argyll and Bute - 50
North Ayrshire - 48
Moray - 45
Midlothian - 41
Inverclyde - 31
Na-h Eileanan Siar - 15
Shetland - 3
Orkney - 2

[Jack]

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Dr Eleanor Gaunt, a virologist at Edinburgh University, said pressure on in Scottish hospitals was “only going to get worse” and called on ministers to reintroduce some restrictions to stem the case numbers.

“If you look at the causes that are underlying that it looks as though this is due to staff sickness and staff having to self-isolate and bed shortages as well and all of those factors are directly attributable to high case numbers of coronavirus.

“This is something we have intervention strategies to bring back under control and . . . in these areas and under this high pressure, it’s something we need to consider enacting now because it’s only going to get worse.”

Experts are warning not to rule out the prospect of a further lockdown if cases are not brought back under control.

Any fresh curbs on freedoms are likely to include capping the number of people allowed to attend indoor gatherings or the possible reintroduction of social distancing rules.

While I agree the good doctor is probably right I can't see anything changing until after COP26.

[hibsbollah]

It seems to be that all travellers back to Scotland will continue to have to get the full PCR test thats £68 each or £272 for this family, despite arrivals at English airports just having to get a lateral flow on return I thought I’d heard scotgov had followed the U.K. lead in this respect? Doesn’t look possible on the testing website.

[Stairway 2 7]

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It seems to be that all travellers back to Scotland will continue to have to get the full PCR test thats £68 each or £272 for this family, despite arrivals at English airports just having to get a lateral flow on return I thought I’d heard scotgov had followed the U.K. lead in this respect? Doesn’t look possible on the testing website.

Still no news. Last scot gov said is they are looking to have parity, but England change on Sunday. From Sunday you can get one in England for £15, rest of Europe don't need testing if vaccinated so I think it's a good compromise

[hibsbollah]

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Still no news. Last scot gov said is they are looking to have parity, but England change on Sunday. From Sunday you can get one in England for £15, rest of Europe don't need testing if vaccinated so I think it's a good compromise

Not for ****ing me it isn’t, gov.uk website seems particularly pleased to inform me I am only able to take advantage of this fantastic £15 lat flow deal if I’m English. Once I’ve booked these £68 PCR tests in scotland, without which I can’t get the passenger locator form, I’ve spent around £400 on testing alone for this holiday, I know a fair few others the same, there’s companies absolutely taking it in from these tests which seem to be run by a bunch of amateurs with rickety equipment doing something the nhs does for free.

The French system has been run like clockwork by comparison.
Thanks for the info incidentally

[DaveF]

I could understand and support these tests if this country was on top of covid and we wanted to keep a lid on it, but since it seems to be fairly rampant then you have to ask what the point is?

[Stairway 2 7]

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Not for ****ing me it isn’t, gov.uk website seems particularly pleased to inform me I am only able to take advantage of this fantastic £15 lat flow deal if I’m English. Once I’ve booked these £68 PCR tests in scotland, without which I can’t get the passenger locator form, I’ve spent around £400 on testing alone for this holiday, I know a fair few others the same, there’s companies absolutely taking it in from these tests which seem to be run by a bunch of amateurs with rickety equipment doing something the nhs does for free.

The French system has been run like clockwork by comparison.
Thanks for the info incidentally

Aye its a money making scam for these pop up private companies, disappointed in scot gov with it. I'm still waiting for my results from August for me my wife and daughter from a company called ctm, £200 on nothing. Luckily I can get pcr tested at work and daughter does at school. An erse at work didn't even send his away and didn't hear anything.

As davef says we've had supposed strictest rules in Europe over the last 3 months on travel, at the same time one of the highest rates.

[hibsbollah]

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Aye its a money making scam for these pop up private companies, disappointed in scot gov with it. I'm still waiting for my results from August for me my wife and daughter from a company called ctm, £200 on nothing. Luckily I can get pcr tested at work and daughter does at school. An erse at work didn't even send his away and didn't hear anything.

As davef says we've had supposed strictest rules in Europe over the last 3 months on travel, at the same time one of the highest rates.

Yeah I’m lucky to be able to get away at all so grateful for that, but it’s basically a shakedown.

[Smartie]

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I could understand and support these tests if this country was on top of covid and we wanted to keep a lid on it, but since it seems to be fairly rampant then you have to ask what the point is?

Maybe it’s to stick a barrier in the way of ordinary people being able to travel easily, which the authorities probably still don’t want?

[Sir David Gray]

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It seems to be that all travellers back to Scotland will continue to have to get the full PCR test thats £68 each or £272 for this family, despite arrivals at English airports just having to get a lateral flow on return I thought I’d heard scotgov had followed the U.K. lead in this respect? Doesn’t look possible on the testing website.

I'm possibly misunderstanding the Scottish Government website but I'm reading it as if you're fully vaccinated and returning from a non-red list country you have the option of choosing from a list of providers in England as long as it's a "self swab at home" test.

The link it takes you to on the UK Government website suggests there's such a test available for £3?

"take a COVID-19 PCR test within 2 days of arriving in Scotland – you can use the CTM booking portal to book and pay £68 for an NHS COVID-19 PCR test, or you can buy a test from a list of private providers In England (at the moment, you should only buy ‘self-swab at home’ tests)"

I'm assuming I have picked something up incorrectly though?

[James310]

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I'm possibly misunderstanding the Scottish Government website but I'm reading it as if you're fully vaccinated and returning from a non-red list country you have the option of choosing from a list of providers in England as long as it's a "self swab at home" test.

The link it takes you to on the UK Government website suggests there's such a test available for £3?

"take a COVID-19 PCR test within 2 days of arriving in Scotland – you can use the CTM booking portal to book and pay £68 for an NHS COVID-19 PCR test, or you can buy a test from a list of private providers In England (at the moment, you should only buy ‘self-swab at home’ tests)"

I'm assuming I have picked something up incorrectly though?

We travel back on Monday and was hoping the SG would follow what's happening in England, but unfortunately not. The tests at £3 and similar are ones you need to pick up yourself, so you physically have to be in say Bristol as an example to pick up the test and then return it there as well. As far as I could see all the other PCR Day 2 tests were about the same price as the £68 the SG are charging.

[Sir David Gray]

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We travel back on Monday and was hoping the SG would follow what's happening in England, but unfortunately not. The tests at £3 and similar are ones you need to pick up yourself, so you physically have to be in say Bristol as an example to pick up the test and then return it there as well. As far as I could see all the other PCR Day 2 tests were about the same price as the £68 the SG are charging.

Ah right ok cheers, I thought that was a bit too good to be true, I don't think the Scottish Government website is very clear on that then.

Very disappointing and as has already been said you could understand the Scottish Government approach if case numbers were currently under control here and we were trying to keep it that way by ensuring people coming here from countries with far higher infection rates were not importing the virus back into Scotland.

As it happens though case numbers are currently out of control here and we have far higher infection rates than most countries in Western Europe where a lot of people will be travelling from and will be on our non-red list status, so there's much more risk for them allowing people into their country from Scotland than there is for us in allowing them to travel back here.

Really don't understand it at all.

[danhibees1875]

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If we need to increase the restrictions up here then there's literally no point in England bringing in "plan B" since we're pretty much already there. The only difference might be stronger guidance for people to work from home but other than that I don't see mask wearing and vaccine passports being enough in England if we maybe need to toughen up with restrictions.

In any case it all seems quite ominous just now.

Can you compare across countries as easily as that? When there's other factors in play that are different between each place that also impact numbers.

For instance, Scotland could be in a much worse place had we not kept those last few measures in place so they would have an impact on the numbers in England?

Conversely to that point, these rules aren't entirely gone in practice in England anyway.
I'm in England now and I forgot my mask on my way in to a supermarket and stopped for a second trying to work out what to do before I realised I was in England and it wouldn't matter. That made me wonder how many were still wearing masks so I made a point of checking down isles out of nosiness and it was a lot more than I'd have expected - c.40% I'd guess.

[Stairway 2 7]

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Can you compare across countries as easily as that? When there's other factors in play that are different between each place that also impact numbers.

For instance, Scotland could be in a much worse place had we not kept those last few measures in place so they would have an impact on the numbers in England?

Conversely to that point, these rules aren't entirely gone in practice in England anyway.
I'm in England now and I forgot my mask on my way in to a supermarket and stopped for a second trying to work out what to do before I realised I was in England and it wouldn't matter. That made me wonder how many were still wearing masks so I made a point of checking down isles out of nosiness and it was a lot more than I'd have expected - c.40% I'd guess.

Since Scotland kept the rules and England stopped them Scotland had much higher cases for over 2 months. Its only dropped now as it burnt through our youth more who went back to school earlier. Wales is much higher than both and has face masks and vaccine passports also for a few weeks now. England's cases should drop a decent bit in the next 2 weeks as it finishes in under 18s, Wales too actually.

[Sir David Gray]

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Can you compare across countries as easily as that? When there's other factors in play that are different between each place that also impact numbers.

For instance, Scotland could be in a much worse place had we not kept those last few measures in place so they would have an impact on the numbers in England?

Conversely to that point, these rules aren't entirely gone in practice in England anyway.
I'm in England now and I forgot my mask on my way in to a supermarket and stopped for a second trying to work out what to do before I realised I was in England and it wouldn't matter. That made me wonder how many were still wearing masks so I made a point of checking down isles out of nosiness and it was a lot more than I'd have expected - c.40% I'd guess.

The point you make that we could be in a much worse position if we hadn't kept these measures in place is almost impossible to argue against but isn't really the point I had hoped to get across.

The point I was trying to make is if there's talk about us possibly needing to increase restrictions up here, despite keeping these measures in place and already being pretty much at the "plan B" stage which is being proposed in England, I doubt if putting "plan B" into place will take England to the point where they need to be going into winter and I think they will need to go much further than that especially when there's now talk starting up about us possibly needing to look at introducing tougher restrictions up here.

[SChibs]

https://youtu.be/9bamaEMftg4

Good video with a Doctor looking through some studies and data regarding natural immunity vs vaccine immunity. The data appears to point to natural immunity being better and more longer lasting than vaccine immunity.

[hibsbollah]

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We travel back on Monday and was hoping the SG would follow what's happening in England, but unfortunately not. The tests at £3 and similar are ones you need to pick up yourself, so you physically have to be in say Bristol as an example to pick up the test and then return it there as well. As far as I could see all the other PCR Day 2 tests were about the same price as the £68 the SG are charging.

That’s my understanding too, although the scotgov helpline and the company helpline are both closed over the weekend and there’s no additional info that I haven’t already got from the websites. Scotgov said they would follow the U.K. stance on allowing the lateral flow/antigen but they seemingly just haven’t provided the service. It’s total bollocks anyway, we’re all double vaxxed, teenagers have received negative antigens tests in France here too, from an area with about a third of the case numbers of Edinburgh.

[speedy_gonzales]

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We travel back on Monday and was hoping the SG would follow what's happening in England, but unfortunately not. The tests at £3 and similar are ones you need to pick up yourself, so you physically have to be in say Bristol as an example to pick up the test and then return it there as well. As far as I could see all the other PCR Day 2 tests were about the same price as the £68 the SG are charging.

There's definitely cheaper out there.
I'm flying out the 29th, returning 4th November. Was holding off booking my 2-day PCR in case the rules changed, but that's looking unlikely just now
Flying with Jet2, they have a list of testers they've recommended, one of them delivered the self swab to your home, guaranteed to be there on your return and you can "drop" the test of at various boxes in Edinburgh, the nearest to me is at a private clinic on Roseburn Street(somewhere near the Screwfix).
The test is about £41 per person.

[Sir David Gray]

A prominent adviser to the UK Government on Covid-19 has said he is “very fearful” there will be another “lockdown Christmas” as he urged the public to do everything possible to reduce transmission of the virus.

Professor Peter Openshaw, a member of the New and Emerging Respiratory Virus Threats Advisory Group (Nervtag), said case numbers and death rates are currently “unacceptable”.

https://news.stv.tv/world/covid-19-g...down-christmas

[James310]

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There's definitely cheaper out there.
I'm flying out the 29th, returning 4th November. Was holding off booking my 2-day PCR in case the rules changed, but that's looking unlikely just now
Flying with Jet2, they have a list of testers they've recommended, one of them delivered the self swab to your home, guaranteed to be there on your return and you can "drop" the test of at various boxes in Edinburgh, the nearest to me is at a private clinic on Roseburn Street(somewhere near the Screwfix).
The test is about £41 per person.

Do you have the name or website please? £41 each would be a saving of over £100.

[silverhibee]

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A prominent adviser to the UK Government on Covid-19 has said he is “very fearful” there will be another “lockdown Christmas” as he urged the public to do everything possible to reduce transmission of the virus.

Professor Peter Openshaw, a member of the New and Emerging Respiratory Virus Threats Advisory Group (Nervtag), said case numbers and death rates are currently “unacceptable”.

https://news.stv.tv/world/covid-19-g...down-christmas

Short Sharp Shock lockdown looming.

[speedy_gonzales]

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Do you have the name or website please? £41 each would be a saving of over £100.

I think it's https://fly.randox.com/ use code TEST21 and it's £43. There are a few drop off boxes around Edinburgh (and elsewhere).

I got the info from the JET2 website, available to all, not just their customers.

Best of luck!

[James310]

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I think it's https://fly.randox.com/ use code TEST21 and it's £43. There are a few drop off boxes around Edinburgh (and elsewhere).

I got the info from the JET2 website, available to all, not just their customers.

Best of luck!

Thanks, looks like I left it too late. It takes 4-6 working days for the kits to be delivered and we would need ours on Wednesday (Day 2?) as we arrive back on Monday. The closest pick up point was North of England.

[Sir David Gray]

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Short Sharp Shock lockdown looming.

See you all in April.

[Sir David Gray]

A top doctor at NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde is urging people to stay away from A&E unless their “condition is life-threatening”.

https://news.stv.tv/west-central/peo...hreatening?top

[Sir David Gray]

Daily Scottish update:

2,403 new cases since yesterday - 8.7% positivity rate
Increase of 2 in the confirmed cases in hospital since yesterday - 896
Increase of 1 in the confirmed cases in intensive care since yesterday - 61
4,302,382 people have now received their first dose of the vaccine - 2,733 people since yesterday
3,890,477 people have now received their second dose of the vaccine - 2,069 people since yesterday
* No deaths registered since yesterday

* Due to a data issue, no new deaths data is available today. We hope to include the latest deaths in tomorrow’s update.

[ardecos]

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It seems to be that all travellers back to Scotland will continue to have to get the full PCR test thats £68 each or £272 for this family, despite arrivals at English airports just having to get a lateral flow on return I thought I’d heard scotgov had followed the U.K. lead in this respect? Doesn’t look possible on the testing website.

You don't have to pay £68 anymore when you return to Scotland; you can use the list England has and it just has to be a PCR test. For example I used a Randox PCR test two weeks ago at £43.

[Just Alf]

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See you all in April.

Don't be silly!

You'll be able to visit all the family and friends, apparently it only spreads from people you don't know. :agree

[Sir David Gray]

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You don't have to pay £68 anymore when you return to Scotland; you can use the list England has and it just has to be a PCR test. For example I used a Randox PCR test two weeks ago at £43.

Seemingly you need pick these up in England though.