Coronavirus

[Sl1010]

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So do you have to download a new/updated app now or does it just perform an update when you go in and give it permission as most other apps do?

I signed out of the app completely then signed in again and it had updated.

[CropleyWasGod]

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I signed out of the app completely then signed in again and it had updated.

Snap.

[Moulin Yarns]

Jesus wept!!!


End Times conspiracy theorist Rick Wiles claims that COVID-19 vaccines contain "an egg that hatches into a synthetic parasite and grows inside your body." https://t.co/mOUHaztXT0

[B.H.F.C]

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So do you have to download a new/updated app now or does it just perform an update when you go in and give it permission as most other apps do?

Looked at the app, my QR codes had disappeared and it said I didn’t meet any criteria but there was no update pending either.

Deleted and reinstalled the app, signed back in (didn’t need to do the full verification thing again) and it’s all there. Now has a single QR code valid in Scotland and the two codes if you’re travelling.

[Moulin Yarns]

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Looked at the app, my QR codes had disappeared and it said I didn’t meet any criteria but there was no update pending either.

Deleted and reinstalled the app, signed back in (didn’t need to do the full verification thing again) and it’s all there. Now has a single QR code valid in Scotland and the two codes if you’re travelling.

That's going to be a lot more convenient for people, both customers and venues.

[B.H.F.C]

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That's going to be a lot more convenient for people, both customers and venues.

Problem will be if it’s not updating automatically, folk turn up somewhere having not checked the app and there is nothing there when they open it. I wouldn’t have known anything about having to update if I had t saw it here.

[Santa Cruz]

This is quite a long cut & paste job (it wasn't easy to avoid the graphs!) which summarises the current position on deaths/vaccination status etc over a period of time.

MORE than 800 people fully vaccinated against Covid have died from the disease in Scotland to date, with figures showing that over-80s now make up a quarter of all hospital admissions linked to the virus.
The latest statistical report from Public Health Scotland shows that there have been 832 Covid deaths in total - where the infection was listed as a cause on the death certificate - since December 2020 in people who tested positive for the virus 14 or more days after their second vaccination.

The vast majority of these - 596 (72%) - have occurred since Scotland lifted restrictions on August 9, bringing an end to measures such as physical distancing.
The report notes that these individuals "had several comorbidities which contributed to their deaths" and that 79.2% "were in the 70 and over age group".

In total, there have been almost 9000 confirmed Covid deaths in Scotland since the beginning of the pandemic in March 2020.

As more than 85% of the population aged 16-plus is now fully vaccinated, this group will inevitably account for the largest number of hospitalisations.
Furthermore, as the elderly are more likely than other age groups to be fully vaccinated, but also more vulnerable to severe complications if they suffer a breakthrough infection, it is also expected that fully-vaccinated people will account for the largest proportion of deaths.
In the week ending October 8, there were 100 Covid deaths in fully-vaccinated Scots compared to 19 in unvaccinated individuals.

However, once the figures are adjusted to take into account the size of each population and their different demographic profiles, the mortality rate for the unvaccinated group is more than 2.5 times higher than it is among the fully vaccinated: 5.29 deaths per 100,000 compared to 1.96 per 100,000.

Hospitalisations show a similar pattern.
In the 60-plus age group in the week ending October 15 there were 275 Covid hospital admissions in fullyvaccinated people compared to 29 for the unvaccinated. However, unvaccinated over-60s were actually twice as likely to have required hospital treatment, with 39 per 100,000 unvaccinated over-60s admitted to hospital compared to 20 per 100,000 who were fully vaccinated.
In the 16 to 29 age group, unvaccinated individuals were five times more likely to end up in hospital.
The data also shows that 146 Covid positive children under 16 have been admitted to hospital in the past four weeks - compared to one who had had a single vaccine dose - though not all admissions are necessarily due to the virus.
Nearly half (48%) of 12 to 15-year-olds in Scotland had been vaccinated to date. Most children in this age group are only being offered one dose, unless they are severely immunocompromised. The report also shows that over-80s in Scotland now make up 25% of Covid hospital admissions, up from 19% in mid-September. The data also shows that 146 Covid positive children under 16 have been admitted to hospital in the past four weeks - compared to one who had had a single vaccine dose - though not all admissions are necessarily due to the virus.

[Sir David Gray]

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Looked at the app, my QR codes had disappeared and it said I didn’t meet any criteria but there was no update pending either.

Deleted and reinstalled the app, signed back in (didn’t need to do the full verification thing again) and it’s all there. Now has a single QR code valid in Scotland and the two codes if you’re travelling.

My app has managed to update overnight so I now have the new setup with the clock etc.

It's obviously now harder for screenshots to take place, although I wonder why it's not been possible to stop a screenshot being taken in the first place.

[JeMeSouviens]

Anyone know? Is our app compatible with/accepted as an EU digital covid certificate? The Swiss one is so it must be possible for "3rd countries".

[Sir David Gray]

ONS estimates state in the week ending 16th October;

1 in 45 people in Wales were positive

1 in 55 people in England were positive

1 in 90 people in Scotland were positive

1 in 130 people in Northern Ireland were positive

[degenerated]

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Problem will be if it’s not updating automatically, folk turn up somewhere having not checked the app and there is nothing there when they open it. I wouldn’t have known anything about having to update if I had t saw it here.

It was published on gov website but only the courier chose to run a story about it as far as I can see, and that was only about how much chaos the update would cause.

It would be helpful if the media actually did its job instead of sitting on this till it causes a problem and then using it to score points.

[marinello59]

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Anyone know? Is our app compatible with/accepted as an EU digital covid certificate? The Swiss one is so it must be possible for "3rd countries".

It is accepted.

[Sir David Gray]

Daily Scottish update:

2,902 new cases since yesterday - 8.8% positivity rate
Decrease of 23 in the confirmed cases in hospital since yesterday - 894
Increase of 2 in the confirmed cases in intensive care since yesterday - 60
4,299,649 people have now received their first dose of the vaccine - 2,621 people since yesterday
3,888,408 people have now received their second dose of the vaccine - 2,232 people since yesterday
19 deaths registered since yesterday

[Pretty Boy]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-59007171

Another lockdown is not the answer in Wales, according to this one public health expert anyway.

[ardecos]

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Looked at the app, my QR codes had disappeared and it said I didn’t meet any criteria but there was no update pending either.

Deleted and reinstalled the app, signed back in (didn’t need to do the full verification thing again) and it’s all there. Now has a single QR code valid in Scotland and the two codes if you’re travelling.

I updated the App last night but still only had the international version today. I did the same as you by deleting the App and reinstalling it and now I get the domestic QR code as well as the international one.

[AugustaHibs]

With the talk of new lockdowns, how would it even work?

Fair enough you can shut businesses but then you have to pay furlough.

Individually people aren’t going to stop meeting others etc. The fear factor is over for the vast majority

[Sir David Gray]

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With the talk of new lockdowns, how would it even work?

Fair enough you can shut businesses but then you have to pay furlough.

Individually people aren’t going to stop meeting others etc. The fear factor is over for the vast majority

I'm pretty sure it won't work except to obviously prevent people from going to pubs, restaurants, football matches etc.

I believe people will continue to travel around the country and meet up with friends and family etc in far larger numbers than during the previous lockdowns.

Previously the restrictions were by and large respected by the majority of decent people and those who failed to comply were the kind of people who think this is all a hoax and who think rules don't apply to them.

Now I think you're also going to get people who are fully vaccinated and who were previously supportive of lockdowns viewing any further restrictions as something which is only coming about due to a minority of people who are not willing to be vaccinated and who are spoiling it for everyone else.

I don't see any huge compliance happening with any further lockdowns, at least not on the same scale that we saw in previous lockdowns.

[Sir David Gray]

Scientists advising the UK government say plans for reintroducing stricter Covid measures should be undertaken now and be ready for "rapid deployment".

Advising people to work from home could have the greatest impact on stopping viral spread, the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) says.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59011321

[Sir David Gray]

NHS Lanarkshire has moved to the "highest risk level" as its three hospitals are at maximum capacity.

The military is already providing additional support at University hospitals Hairmyres, Monklands and Wishaw.

But the health board described occupancy levels as "critical" and said the "sustained pressure" shows no signs of easing.

It also confirmed some elective cancer procedures have been cancelled.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...-west-59010932

[Sir David Gray]

49,298 cases and 180 deaths registered in the UK today.

[Sir David Gray]

A new mutated form of coronavirus that some are calling "Delta Plus" may spread more easily than regular Delta, UK experts now say.

The UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA) has moved it up into the "variant under investigation" category, to reflect this possible risk.

There is no evidence yet that it causes worse illness.

And scientists are confident that existing vaccines should still work well to protect people.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59009293

[Killiehibbie]

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NHS Lanarkshire has moved to the "highest risk level" as its three hospitals are at maximum capacity.

The military is already providing additional support at University hospitals Hairmyres, Monklands and Wishaw.

But the health board described occupancy levels as "critical" and said the "sustained pressure" shows no signs of easing.

It also confirmed some elective cancer procedures have been cancelled.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...-west-59010932

Is there such a thing as elective cancer treatment?
I would've thought maybe semi-elective for some but most come under urgent.

[JeMeSouviens]

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It is accepted.

Great, thanks!

[Stairway 2 7]

Can't see there being any major restrictions coming in. This is the model that sage gave the uk governments for is estimated hospital admissions this autumn. Red line is what we have had , between the 2 gray lines was what was expected.
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Also cases are 50% in the young groups still. An insane 8% of teens estimated to be catching it each week and ons say 75% have previously had it there can't be much to go.
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Probably most optimistic thing is sages new usually pessimistic models out today, most centrally say no more than 1500 admissions per day (down from between 2 and 7k) this winter.

Many thought a firebreak would be enforced this month but hospitalisations have been flat. If the Pfizer booster figures are correct and between 98 and 99% protection against symptomatic covid, covid is finished for those that get vaccinated. It will be bad news for poorer nations though, as they numbers mean richer countries will be all wanting 3 doses for all

[Stairway 2 7]

Looks like pfizer will be approved for 5-11yo in the US. By the time a decision was approved most kids that age will have already caught it in the uk unfortunately

[Jay]

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Is there such a thing as elective cancer treatment?
I would've thought maybe semi-elective for some but most come under urgent.

That was my first thought too . I wonder if things like breast reconstruction and stoma reversals would be classed as elective cancer ops. I'd like to think there's not people with cancer having ops being postponed. What a worry for them

[Sir David Gray]

Northern Ireland is "facing into the most difficult winter ever experienced", Robin Swann has warned.

The health minister said there were "unscheduled pressures" facing the health and social care system.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-59007006

[Sir David Gray]

Anti-vaccination and anti-lockdown protesters are organising themselves online to confront MPs in person, Sky News has found.

One online group is going after politicians because of their "evil actions" - and shares tips on how to find constituency offices and MPs' homes.

https://news.sky.com/story/how-do-i-...rules-12440222

[SteveHFC]

Dr Eleanor Gaunt, a virologist at Edinburgh University, said pressure on in Scottish hospitals was “only going to get worse” and called on ministers to reintroduce some restrictions to stem the case numbers.

“If you look at the causes that are underlying that it looks as though this is due to staff sickness and staff having to self-isolate and bed shortages as well and all of those factors are directly attributable to high case numbers of coronavirus.

“This is something we have intervention strategies to bring back under control and . . . in these areas and under this high pressure, it’s something we need to consider enacting now because it’s only going to get worse.”

Experts are warning not to rule out the prospect of a further lockdown if cases are not brought back under control.

Any fresh curbs on freedoms are likely to include capping the number of people allowed to attend indoor gatherings or the possible reintroduction of social distancing rules.

[Sir David Gray]

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Dr Eleanor Gaunt, a virologist at Edinburgh University, said pressure on in Scottish hospitals was “only going to get worse” and called on ministers to reintroduce some restrictions to stem the case numbers.

“If you look at the causes that are underlying that it looks as though this is due to staff sickness and staff having to self-isolate and bed shortages as well and all of those factors are directly attributable to high case numbers of coronavirus.

“This is something we have intervention strategies to bring back under control and . . . in these areas and under this high pressure, it’s something we need to consider enacting now because it’s only going to get worse.”

Experts are warning not to rule out the prospect of a further lockdown if cases are not brought back under control.

Any fresh curbs on freedoms are likely to include capping the number of people allowed to attend indoor gatherings or the possible reintroduction of social distancing rules.

If we need to increase the restrictions up here then there's literally no point in England bringing in "plan B" since we're pretty much already there. The only difference might be stronger guidance for people to work from home but other than that I don't see mask wearing and vaccine passports being enough in England if we maybe need to toughen up with restrictions.

In any case it all seems quite ominous just now.