Brexit - What Now.

[lapsedhibee]

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An article from the New Statesman that felt about right to me.



https://www.newstatesman.com/comment...nal-and-absurd

It'll be more than just from Germany, though. The whole world and half of Britain, if they're paying attention, will be thinking the same way.

[Hibrandenburg]

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Thanks JMS and Oz. That is a decent description of the current situation, although I can't agree with his conclusion as to how we get out of it. The next Westminster Labour government is only a prelude to the next Westminster Tory government, there's another way out of this for Scotland.

[ronaldo7]

https://twitter.com/bbcdebatenight/s...05789857751044

[JimBHibees]

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https://twitter.com/bbcdebatenight/s...05789857751044

Ironic the programme was on BBC who are in a similar state of denial re brexit as Uk ministers.

[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/peston/status/14...189885963?s=21

Peston now saying we are heading into recession. He has form for predicting financial meltdown. The Brexit recession is on the way.


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[Kato]

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https://twitter.com/peston/status/14...189885963?s=21

Peston now saying we are heading into recession. He has form for predicting financial meltdown. The Brexit recession is on the way.


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A big money maker for those in a position to bet on it happening.



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[Ozyhibby]

Brexit bonus.


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[Ozyhibby]

https://sluggerotoole.com/2021/10/11...e-ni-protocol/


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[Kato]

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https://sluggerotoole.com/2021/10/11...e-ni-protocol/


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The number of which is....


"The UK government is doing this not because it has a practical dispute over trade flow, but because it wishes to divert attention away from its own incompetence back home."

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[norhfc]

I recognised myself in that New Statesman piece. Last month I received my Norwegian citizenship after about a years process with language/citizenship tests. I have an appointment next month for my new Norwegian passport. I was so fuming with the Brexit result it was a very easy decision for me. Most of the expat community here have done the same thing, although there are a couple of little Englanders I know who refuse, claiming they would never carry another countries passport. I on the other hand am embarrassed with the British one, I will keep it but cant see me using it anytime soon. I do travel regulary and there was no way anybody was taking my freedom of movement away from me.

[Ozyhibby]

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I recognised myself in that New Statesman piece. Last month I received my Norwegian citizenship after about a years process with language/citizenship tests. I have an appointment next month for my new Norwegian passport. I was so fuming with the Brexit result it was a very easy decision for me. Most of the expat community here have done the same thing, although there are a couple of little Englanders I know who refuse, claiming they would never carry another countries passport. I on the other hand am embarrassed with the British one, I will keep it but cant see me using it anytime soon. I do travel regulary and there was no way anybody was taking my freedom of movement away from me.

Got Irish passports for myself and the family. I genuinely thought we wouldn’t leave the SM and CU. More fool me.


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[Peevemor]

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Got Irish passports for myself and the family. I genuinely thought we wouldn’t leave the SM and CU. More fool me.

I recently had my application for a French 10 year resident's permit approved and have been summoned to the regional council headquarters on Tuesday afternoon for fingerprinting etc..

I'm hoping that Scotland is independent & back in the EU by the time it expires!

[greenginger]

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Brexit bonus.


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I don’t know where these charts come from.

here are the latest IMF

https://researchbriefings.files.parl...84/SN02784.pdf

[wookie70]

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I don’t know where these charts come from.

here are the latest IMF

https://researchbriefings.files.parl...84/SN02784.pdf

Different time periods

[greenginger]

Y

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Different time periods

The data I posted was from 12 th October 2021

[wookie70]

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Y


The data I posted was from 12 th October 2021

I think one set started a year before the other

[mjhibby]

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Ironic the programme was on BBC who are in a similar state of denial re brexit as Uk ministers.

Not just denial but totally devoid of reality. An utter disgrace that the bbc has been beaten down by the last tory govts and is now scared to report what is palpably true. I don't watch any TV news anymore. Its so obvious it's a doctored version of what I see day to day. Dare I say propaganda.

[greenginger]

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I think one set started a year before the other

It still shows UK GDP to down 3.3% on pre-covid figures , exactly the same as France, exactly the same as Germany, and 0.2 % better than Italy .

Hardly worst in the G7 as the poster claimed.

[Jack]

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Not just denial but totally devoid of reality. An utter disgrace that the bbc has been beaten down by the last tory govts and is now scared to report what is palpably true. I don't watch any TV news anymore. Its so obvious it's a doctored version of what I see day to day. Dare I say propaganda.

They're not scared of the tory government they are governed by one of their poster boys. Game, set and match.

[mjhibby]

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They're not scared of the tory government they are governed by one of their poster boys. Game, set and match.

Not sure that's true. More concerned with the continuation. Of the licence fee.

[Jack]

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Not sure that's true. More concerned with the continuation. Of the licence fee.

It's not just one poster boy, the text below is from Wiki. There was controversy when Davie axed the Mash Report and was quoted as saying too much of BBC comedy was left wing. He also issued guidelines saying BBC staff should not be critical of the government when using [even private] social media.

"Some commentators, such as*Peter Oborne, have argued that there is a culture of "client journalism" which has flourished in recent years due to a closeness between the BBC and the ruling Conservative Party, which has led to their bias in favour of the establishment.[11]*For example, from 2008 to 2017,*Robbie Gibb*was head of the BBC Westminster and therefore in charge of the BBC's political programming. His brother,*Nick Gibb, is a Conservative MP and Minister for Schools, and Robbie Gibb took a job with*Theresa May*as Director of Communications immediately after resigning from the BBC. The incoming Director-General as of September 2020,*Tim Davie, is a former Conservative Party councilor. In addition, the new Chairman of the BBC, Richard Sharp, has donated over £400,000 to the Conservative Party since 2001

[Ozyhibby]

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[neil7908]

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Absolute cringe. Country is suffering crisis on multiple fronts and this is what they are talking about?

[lapsedhibee]

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Absolute cringe. Country is suffering crisis on multiple fronts and this is what they are talking about?

UKGov needs people to continue talking about the badness of the EU, indefinitely. Will not stop unless England wakes up, of which there is no sign.

[Northernhibee]

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Criminal to say pound, yet there she is outside a court not being arrested.

[lord bunberry]

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Criminal to say pound, yet there she is outside a court not being arrested.

Who cares about this enough to make up a sign and go out and protest? How little has she got going on in her life for this to be so important, it’s laughable. It’s just another deflection from our government and idiots like her lap it up.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Australian trade minister leaves UK with no deal – POLITICO


Australian trade minister leaves UK with no deal

Dan Tehan hoped to strike an agreement with his UK counterpart, but it wasn’t to be.


oh well

[Smartie]

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Australian trade minister leaves UK with no deal – POLITICO


Australian trade minister leaves UK with no deal

Dan Tehan hoped to strike an agreement with his UK counterpart, but it wasn’t to be.


oh well

Was this not meant to be Beefy Botham's department?

[ballengeich]

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These people are not the full shilling.

[Lendo]

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Who cares about this enough to make up a sign and go out and protest? How little has she got going on in her life for this to be so important, it’s laughable. It’s just another deflection from our government and idiots like her lap it up.

I said the same thing about the old boy that blocked a roundabout at Silverknowes because he was so upset about Spaces for People. How can this be the most important thing in their life to be upset about?