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29-09-2021 04:28 PM #61
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29-09-2021 04:36 PM #62This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
In Scotland it's 54,000 so yes it does skew the numbers having 2 huge clubs so far ahead of the others in attendance.
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29-09-2021 04:43 PM #63
There won't be another country in the world of less than 10M population where if you disregard the 2 best supported sides you have an average attendance of close on 9,000 for the remaining top flight clubs.
When you also consider the scale of support the old firm get then the passion for football in Scotland is quite remarkable.
Ron gets this.
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29-09-2021 04:52 PM #64This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Hibs averaged 17,740
Hearts averaged 17, 564
Aberdeen 14, 924
No Danish team had average attendances as high as Hibs or Hearts that season
That includes Copenhagen the only Danish side to exceed Aberdeens average
Hamilton, Livingston and St Johnstone were the only poorly supported teams that season.
We have eventually shaken of Hamilton and hopefully Livingston fall this season to be replaced by Kilmarnock.
SPFL have already added Dundee Utd to the league since 2019 and they should be good for an average 8,000 at home games especially with Dundee also in the league.
Kilmarnocks return will leave only Dunfermline and Falkirk of the decent supported teams outside of the top league.
Stirling is the Scottish anomaly. Should have a decent supported teamLast edited by CMurdoch; 29-09-2021 at 04:56 PM.
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29-09-2021 04:59 PM #65This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Last edited by CMurdoch; 29-09-2021 at 05:01 PM.
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29-09-2021 05:30 PM #66This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Do you know how the Danish viewing figures compare to those for our leagues?
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29-09-2021 06:28 PM #67This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
You claim that Danish attendances are poor as a result of their TV deal but present no evidence of that in your post. The Danish top flight was rebranded in 1991 and since then the average attendance of Danish top flight matches has more than doubled while the league has expanded to include more teams. As you can see from the table below, attendances have remained stable despite the TV deal, in fact average attendances are currently at their highest number in over a decade despite Covid still being an issue.
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You have called people fools for “only looking at the top line”, yet you have done exactly this with regards to the Danish attendances by not presenting them in context and omitting the historical trends. Fortunately, I am confident that the analysts at Deloitte who will be tasked with reviewing our game and presenting possible improvements will have a better grasp of statistical analysis than yourself.Last edited by CapitalGreen; 29-09-2021 at 06:34 PM.
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29-09-2021 06:57 PM #68This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
spot on
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29-09-2021 07:26 PM #69This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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29-09-2021 08:06 PM #70
Somebody mentioned the comparison to Austria, but there's only one team in Austria that gets higher than 10k average attendances per season.
The biggest issue they have is that football is only the second most popular sport, after skiing. Plus the fact that a very large proportion of people in Vienna have links to Eastern and Southern Europe and are more likely to support the likes of Ferencvaros or Partisan Belgrade than their local team.
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29-09-2021 08:33 PM #71
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It is widely agreed that the Scottish game could be improved, grown and made more competitive.Last edited by Allez Hibs; 29-09-2021 at 08:37 PM.
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29-09-2021 08:55 PM #72
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If Ron and the others manage to get the alcohol ban lifted that would be a huge step forward. Clubs should at least be allowed to try it and if there's any trouble then the club loses its licence. If England can manage to do it then I don't see why we can't manage to as well.
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29-09-2021 11:13 PM #73This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Re your comment re Deloitte, they will be paid a fortune and will take 6 months to produce their report so hardly fair to make a comparison with a post I put together in 5 minutes for Social Media.
I look forward to the vast tomb of the blindingly obvious which they will produce ably supported by a vast array of statistics and graphs. This report will eventually be used to bludgeon Scotland's part time teams and Doncaster with after the Old Firm tell the payees that they can have whatever league structure they want but the 11-1 majority needed for major decisions will remain as is so that they can continue to veto any wee team driven reforms they don't support.Last edited by CMurdoch; 29-09-2021 at 11:52 PM.
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29-09-2021 11:40 PM #74This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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30-09-2021 10:03 AM #75This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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30-09-2021 09:35 PM #76
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30-09-2021 10:16 PM #77This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
At the moment nearly half the SPFL is semi pro. The argument is that a few of them step up to join the 22 professional clubs. That’s a step up in quality.
If a club got relegated out of the two pro leagues, they’d have to decide whether to maintain their budget or cut their cloth. A promoted team would likewise have to adapt very quickly to stay up.
It would be a big step between two leagues, obviously, but possible.
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30-09-2021 10:20 PM #78This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I think your pretty spot on here. Unfortunately Sevco get more unreasonable by the day and Celtc are in turmoil. It will be hard to get anything out of them.
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30-09-2021 11:15 PM #79This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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01-10-2021 04:46 PM #80This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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