SPFL Strategic Review

[Wakeyhibee]

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Junior football is literally dying on its arse. Superb comparison. All their clubs are joining the senior set up.

I want a football set up that is based on a clubs footballing ability. Very simple!

Agree, and one that promotes without the need for extended play offs designed to give the higher club an advantage as there is in the Championship and Highland/Lowland leagues.

Totally for playoffs not the top and bottom ones the way they are.

[Allez Hibs]

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It’s interesting that “the next biggest 5” are getting together to discuss what might be done. This is the size of Scottish club who have underperformed quite horrendously over the past 30 years or so. Rangers and Celtic do what they do, their big crowds and European appearances generate results generally proportionate to that revenue. Clubs like St Johnstone, Ross County, Motherwell should really be applauded for the trophies they’ve won and players they’ve produced.

The 5 clubs mentioned? Ok, Aberdeen haven’t been relegated, but between Hibs, Hearts, Dundee United and Dundee you’ve got a couple of relegations each. Hearts and Dundee (at least once) have an insolvency event. There’s the odd cup win in there, and we shouldn’t easily dismiss the work these clubs have had to do since Hillsborough to get their grounds in order but the underachievement of Scotland’s biggest clubs out with the OF over the past quarter century or so has been shameful.

I’m glad they’re getting together to discuss it but remain a wee bit cynical about what they might come up with.

Very good post.

[Allez Hibs]

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Two full time leagues of 12 teams
Phase 1 22 qualifying games
Phase 2 split 8/8/8
All points returned to Zero round of 14 games.
Phase 3 top 4 play off for Premiership
38 game season

Bottom 4 seeded play off against top 4 in tier 2 home and away 38 game season.

Middle 8 see above

Bottom 8 same up to play offs then bottom 4 play off to avoid a relegation play off against the pyramid winners

Sound familiar? You can bet your 'tache on it

Far too messy that.

[hibbysam]

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Agree, and one that promotes without the need for extended play offs designed to give the higher club an advantage as there is in the Championship and Highland/Lowland leagues.

Totally for playoffs not the top and bottom ones the way they are.

100%. Not helped by the amount of different bodies overseeing leagues. For example 2 different ones at tier 5, 3 at tier 6 - meaning clubs depending on their location start at a different point of the pyramid.

[Billy Whizz]

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/s...20see%20change.

Interview with Ron Gordon in The Times today re this. I don’t have a subscription unfortunately
He’s also done with Brian McLaughlin of the BBC, not sure when it will be aired

[Danderhall Hibs]

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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/s...20see%20change.

Interview with Ron Gordon in The Times today re this. I don’t have a subscription unfortunately
He’s also done with Brian McLaughlin of the BBC, not sure when it will be aired

I didn’t hear it but I think I was on before the matches today with Willie Miller being dubious due to Gordon using “big words”.

[Billy Whizz]

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I didn’t hear it but I think I was on before the matches today with Willie Miller being dubious due to Gordon using “big words”.

They played a snippet of it, Willie Miller etc said they’d seen so many reviews over the years, and nothing ever happened

[Stairway 2 7]

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They played a snippet of it, Willie Miller etc said they’d seen so many reviews over the years, and nothing ever happened

That's the attitude willie 😆 Ron and dare I say it budge ect, are a breath of fresh air compared to the same old mouth pieces

[bingo70]

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I didn’t hear it but I think I was on before the matches today with Willie Miller being dubious due to Gordon using “big words”.

😂 Brilliant.

The likes of Willie Miller will be terrified the SPFL gets it’s actually together and starts to promote itself properly as he should be nowhere near it now.

Remember the day before the season started last season I was really excited about football starting up again, tuned into the BBC season preview and they spent around 15 minutes of a 45 minutes build up to the season ahead discussing whether it would be a problem that we’d be able to hear swearing from the dug outs.

[Danderhall Hibs]

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That's the attitude willie 😆 Ron and dare I say it budge ect, are a breath of fresh air compared to the same old mouth pieces

No idea why this guys still on the radio. I’m 43, he was a great player when I was at primary school, a crap manager when I was at high school and he’s been a ***** pundit ever since. Doesn’t understand stuff, played in an era of football that’s not relevant to todays games but still gets airtime?

[chippy]

1) Spfl. Full time clubs only. Each club will have to have minimum of x players on full time contracts with likely minimum wage set by spfl
2) 24-28 clubs likely outcome 2 divisions. Splits up and down leagues.
3) no direct relegation from 2nd tier, club bottom for 2 consecutive seasons must be re elected
4) u 23 B team/reserve league for minimum of 10 clubs. Clubs that can’t afford a B team can share a team with another club e.g Dundee and St Johnstone, Ross Couny and ICT, St Mirren and Killie, etc. These players can be utilised by the first team.
5) Similarly under 18/19 league minimum of 10 teams. Can be utilised by B and even A team.
6) League Cup still open to semi pro teams through a qualification phase
7) Streamed live away games per club, on a season subscription or ppv basis. Home season ticket gets you live stream if not attending. Potential return of Spl TV? Ron knows his stuff
8) Exploration of potential new additional tournament with Scandic clubs

[Gatecrasher]

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1) Spfl. Full time clubs only. Each club will have to have minimum of x players on full time contracts with likely minimum wage set by spfl
2) 24-28 clubs likely outcome 2 divisions. Splits up and down leagues.
3) no direct relegation from 2nd tier, club bottom for 2 consecutive seasons must be re elected
4) u 23 B team/reserve league for minimum of 10 clubs. Clubs that can’t afford a B team can share a team with another club e.g Dundee and St Johnstone, Ross Couny and ICT, St Mirren and Killie, etc. These players can be utilised by the first team.
5) Similarly under 18/19 league minimum of 10 teams. Can be utilised by B and even A team.
6) League Cup still open to semi pro teams through a qualification phase
7) Streamed live away games per club, on a season subscription or ppv basis. Home season ticket gets you live stream if not attending. Potential return of Spl TV? Ron knows his stuff
8) Exploration of potential new additional tournament with Scandic clubs

The first three can bolt lol
4 and 5,meh another reserve restructuring that will be changed again a few years later.
6 meh same as above.
7 yes please
8 lol

[Allez Hibs]

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1) Spfl. Full time clubs only. Each club will have to have minimum of x players on full time contracts with likely minimum wage set by spfl
2) 24-28 clubs likely outcome 2 divisions. Splits up and down leagues.
3) no direct relegation from 2nd tier, club bottom for 2 consecutive seasons must be re elected
4) u 23 B team/reserve league for minimum of 10 clubs. Clubs that can’t afford a B team can share a team with another club e.g Dundee and St Johnstone, Ross Couny and ICT, St Mirren and Killie, etc. These players can be utilised by the first team.
5) Similarly under 18/19 league minimum of 10 teams. Can be utilised by B and even A team.
6) League Cup still open to semi pro teams through a qualification phase
7) Streamed live away games per club, on a season subscription or ppv basis. Home season ticket gets you live stream if not attending. Potential return of Spl TV? Ron knows his stuff
8) Exploration of potential new additional tournament with Scandic clubs

Nope. That would make things even worse.

[Allez Hibs]

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😂 Brilliant.

The likes of Willie Miller will be terrified the SPFL gets it’s actually together and starts to promote itself properly as he should be nowhere near it now.

Remember the day before the season started last season I was really excited about football starting up again, tuned into the BBC season preview and they spent around 15 minutes of a 45 minutes build up to the season ahead discussing whether it would be a problem that we’d be able to hear swearing from the dug outs.

Did anyone hear him say Ron is using American type words like "increased revenue" then went on to say OK they are just words. Bizzare. You are part of th eproblem Willie. Time to be part of the solution Willie.

[Wakeyhibee]

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1) Spfl. Full time clubs only. Each club will have to have minimum of x players on full time contracts with likely minimum wage set by spfl
2) 24-28 clubs likely outcome 2 divisions. Splits up and down leagues.
3) no direct relegation from 2nd tier, club bottom for 2 consecutive seasons must be re elected
4) u 23 B team/reserve league for minimum of 10 clubs. Clubs that can’t afford a B team can share a team with another club e.g Dundee and St Johnstone, Ross Couny and ICT, St Mirren and Killie, etc. These players can be utilised by the first team.
5) Similarly under 18/19 league minimum of 10 teams. Can be utilised by B and even A team.
6) League Cup still open to semi pro teams through a qualification phase
7) Streamed live away games per club, on a season subscription or ppv basis. Home season ticket gets you live stream if not attending. Potential return of Spl TV? Ron knows his stuff
8) Exploration of potential new additional tournament with Scandic clubs

As above replies but also.

No 3 - how does pullimg the ladder up further, stifeling competition, get a look in to any set up? Sends a clear message "dont invest, advertise in or sponsor in grass roots Scottish football"

[Phil MaGlass]

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As above replies but also.

No 3 - how does pullimg the ladder up further, stifeling competition, get a look in to any set up? Sends a clear message "dont invest, advertise in or sponsor in grass roots Scottish football"

To be fair, I think he is just putting out a load of ideas for folk to debate and talk about and get folk to give their input on how they could see the game panning out? If folk are going to disagree, say why and they can give their ideas. Building blocks.