Vaccine Passports for Easter Road

[Callum_62]

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App available at the end of month I think.

An app?

What about all they folk that use a Nokia 3310?

SHAMBLES.

[Antifa Hibs]

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App available at the end of month I think.

What does that mean? Its just going to have to be shown to a steward or door person?

[BILLYHIBS]

This from Sky Sports specific to Scottish Football fans

https://www.skysports.com/share/12403044

[SteveHFC]

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An app?

What about all they folk that use a Nokia 3310?

SHAMBLES.

Paper copy I think.

[Magpie]

I’m intrigued to see how this is going to work with football clubs.

[JohnM1875]

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The companies we get stewards at ER with already struggle to scrape together enough stewards, be a logistical nightmare.

If the checks are as thorough as the ones that advised we'd need ID to get into the first few games I wouldn't worry too much about it.

Took my passport to three games and wasn't asked once to show ID.

[SteveHFC]

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What does that mean? Its just going to have to be shown to a steward or door person?

Will be interesting to see how they will cope with this.

[hibbybob]

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Shambles.

Is it going to be scanned via phone? Printed on paper? Manually checked? Who's going to pay for the infrastructure - if any? What about the extra stewards needed etc etc?

This ****ng government!

How can you call it a “shambles” before you know the answers to the questions you have raised?

[Callum_62]

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Paper copy I think.

Paper copy?

Will no one think of the environment?

Im upgrading this from shambles to disgrace.

In all seriousness I hope this can be incorporated with the scanners we use for tickets now - that would be the far least disruptive method

[Magpie]

I assume all season ticket holders will be required to hand in proof of double vaccination or risk their season ticket cards not being authorised for entry.

I’m sure there are many season ticket holders who haven’t had one dose of the vaccine never mind two, with an eight week gap for both jabs and this legislation coming into play in just over three weeks, it’s going to cause issues.

[CropleyWasGod]

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I assume all season ticket holders will be required to hand in proof of double vaccination or risk their season ticket cards not being authorised for entry.

I’m sure there are many season ticket holders who haven’t had one dose of the vaccine never mind two, with an eight week gap for both jabs and this legislation coming into play in just over three weeks, it’s going to cause issues.

ST holders should have to show their certificate at every game, no? Otherwise, there's a risk that they could lend their ST to someone who isn't vaccinated.

[Antifa Hibs]

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How can you call it a “shambles” before you know the answers to the questions you have raised?

Because in 3 weeks time certain people won't be able to attend a football match because there is a few extra people at the game. 9999 at the match, jabbed or not it doesn't matter. 10,001 at the game sorry its now very unsafe and everyone needs 2 vax's.

Ridiculous.

[Magpie]

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ST holders should have to show their certificate at every game, no? Otherwise, they could lend their ST to someone who isn't vaccinated.

Isn’t lending your ST technically not legal anyway? I don’t think the club will have that in mind when deciding the best form of action to take.

Majority of supporters don’t tend to enter the stadium until 10-15 minutes before kick off. I’m not sure how they are going to have the numbers to individually check thousands of folk’s certificates in that amount of time.

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3. This season ticket is not transferable. It may only be used by the season ticket mem- ber detailed on the front in connection with the seat noted, subject to paragraph 6. If it is discovered through the verification process at turnstiles that a season ticket has been transferred to another, the Club reserves the right to confiscate the ticket. If, for exam- ple, a child's ticket is used by an adult, the Club reserves the right to cancel the season ticket and no refund shall be given.

[CropleyWasGod]

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Isn’t lending your ST technically not legal anyway? I don’t think the club will have that in mind when deciding the best form of action to take.

Majority of supporters don’t tend to enter the stadium until 10-15 minutes before kick off. I’m not sure how they are going to have the numbers to individually check thousands of folk’s certificates in that amount of time.

I think they should. Otherwise, there's a big hole in their processes, and they could be taken to task for it.

Much of what you say is relevant, of course, and the SFA have raised a lot of issues with the SG already.

[LunasBoots]

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I assume all season ticket holders will be required to hand in proof of double vaccination or risk their season ticket cards not being authorised for entry.

I’m sure there are many season ticket holders who haven’t had one dose of the vaccine never mind two, with an eight week gap for both jabs and this legislation coming into play in just over three weeks, it’s going to cause issues.

It would have to be checked every game sadly.

[Magpie]

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I think they should. Otherwise, there's a big hole in their processes, and they could be taken to task for it.

Much of what you say is relevant, of course, and the SFA have raised a lot of issues with the SG already.

The club have already stated in the terms and conditions that the season ticket is not transferable so they have covered themselves in that aspect.

[jgl07]

There are two likely scenarios that could follow.

The first is that there will be notices up at the stadium but no-one will bother to enforce it.

The second is there will be staff checking everyone coming in and queues will build up and chaos will ensue.

Since the Scottish Government, unlike their counterparts in England, has yet to produce a smartphone app showing vaccination status. All I have is a sheet of paper which could be used by anyone. That is unless we also require photo id to get into a football match.

I smell a total fiasco coming up.

[CropleyWasGod]

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The club have already stated in the terms and conditions that the season ticket is not transferable so they have covered themselves in that aspect.

Maybe I'm not explaining masel

I'm trying to make the point that a ST holder will have to show their certificate at every game.

[Ronniekirk]

It’s to run till February 2022 according to article I saw Assume it can be dispensed with if not deemed needed
But how can they be so sure it will end then
A difficult winter would scupper that you would think


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[hibbysam]

As has been said, logistical nightmare if they want it done properly. ID plus vax passport will need to be shown by every single person going through the turnstile. Just shy of 4000 people in the famous five through 8 turnstiles, around 500 per turnstile, taking around a minute to get through and be checked properly. Maths don’t add up for me.

[CropleyWasGod]

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It’s to run till February 2022 according to article I saw Assume it can be dispensed with if not deemed needed
But how can they be so sure it will end then
A difficult winter would scupper that you would think


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It is to be reviewed every 3 weeks.

[Magpie]

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Maybe I'm not explaining masel

I'm trying to make the point that a ST holder will have to show their certificate at every game.

I understand that. I’m just stating that the club have already made it clear that lending your season ticket breaches the terms and conditions.

[Chorley Hibee]

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There are two likely scenarios that could follow.

The first is that there will be notices up at the stadium but no-one will bother to enforce it.

The second is there will be staff checking everyone coming in and queues will build up and chaos will ensue.

Since the Scottish Government, unlike their counterparts in England, has yet to produce a smartphone app showing vaccination status. All I have is a sheet of paper which could be used by anyone. That is unless we also require photo id to get into a football match.

I smell a total fiasco coming up.

It's going to turn a lot of people away from football, and it will impact clubs with greater attendances in Scotland more so.

[Magpie]

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As has been said, logistical nightmare if they want it done properly. ID plus vax passport will need to be shown by every single person going through the turnstile. Just shy of 4000 people in the famous five through 8 turnstiles, around 500 per turnstile, taking around a minute to get through and be checked properly. Maths don’t add up for me.

That’s the way I look at it too. Hopefully some clarification on how they tend to go about it soon.

[brianmc]

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ST holders should have to show their certificate at every game, no? Otherwise, there's a risk that they could lend their ST to someone who isn't vaccinated.

So if you lend a pal your season ticket you do the same with your vaccine certificate, simple 🤔. After all, the names on each would have to match.

[JimBHibees]

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It's going to turn a lot of people away from football, and it will impact clubs with greater attendances in Scotland more so.

You would hope some sort of sensible solution could be worked out. Maybe season ticket holders could email to the club their vaccination status which would then not require an on the day check as some sort of validation.

[Ronniekirk]

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It is to be reviewed every 3 weeks.

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[Magpie]

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It's going to turn a lot of people away from football, and it will impact clubs with greater attendances in Scotland more so.

Definitely. I don’t know what the club are going to do about the season ticket holders who aren’t double vaccinated by the Dundee United game on the 16th October. Will they be entitled to a refund?

[jeffers]

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As has been said, logistical nightmare if they want it done properly. ID plus vax passport will need to be shown by every single person going through the turnstile. Just shy of 4000 people in the famous five through 8 turnstiles, around 500 per turnstile, taking around a minute to get through and be checked properly. Maths don’t add up for me.

ID as in photo ID ?

[hibbysam]

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ID as in photo ID ?

Not sure, but they’d have to do something to prove you are who the passport says, otherwise anyone can use anyone’s passports and nobody would know - thus defeating the purpose of the exercise.