Scottish Independence

[lapsedhibee]

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Presumably we should have just followed England?

"They refused to use the government's messaging, confusing the public."

In The Spectator's parallel world, Matt Lucas hasn't been born yet.

[Jack]

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Presumably we should have just followed England?


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It's almost as if the Scottish Government was advertising in England.

God forbid either goverment step into the wrong devolved/reserved areas.

[Tommy75]

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Presumably we should have just followed England?


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I'm not sure that any of the devolved nations should have just followed England. I would like to have seen something along the lines of a 'pandemic coalition' between devolved governments and the UK government that put out 1 set of rules/regulations for the UK as a whole.

[Glory Lurker]

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I'm not sure that any of the devolved nations should have just followed England. I would like to have seen something along the lines of a 'pandemic coalition' between devolved governments and the UK government that put out 1 set of rules/regulations for the UK as a whole.

No chance. There is no reason at all for England to do anything that the anybody else suggests. There's 55 million of them. Why should they do anything other than suits them? I wouldn’t blame them. It does show up how it's a union of unequals, though.

[Ozyhibby]

Alex Cole Hamilton laying the groundwork for a unionist merger. How long before Labour join? Or will they carry on with the current non aggression pact?



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[ronaldo7]

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Alex Cole Hamilton laying the groundwork for a unionist merger. How long before Labour join? Or will they carry on with the current non aggression pact?



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https://twitter.com/Ross_Greer/status/1426548435189129216?s=09

[Ozyhibby]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-58256028.amp

GERS figures are out and unionists can rejoice in the fact we seem to have got poorer once again.


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[Kato]

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-58256028.amp

GERS figures are out and unionists can rejoice in the fact we seem to have got poorer once again.


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It's a sure fire sign, to Unionists, that we are too poor and too stupid to take care of things for ourselves.

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[Hibrandenburg]

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It's a sure fire sign, to Unionists, that we are too poor and too stupid to take care of things for ourselves.

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If only we were genetically wired to be able to lead ourselves.

[Jack]

The Scottish Government, as we all know, has to run within budget. If GERS shows Scotland is running over budget it must be someone else running up the debt. Whoever it is they don't seem to be very competent!

[Ozyhibby]

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The Scottish Government, as we all know, has to run within budget. If GERS shows Scotland is running over budget it must be someone else running up the debt. Whoever it is they don't seem to be very competent!

Or very competent in their plan to make us the poorest country in this part of Europe and then use that to tell us we need them?


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[CloudSquall]

If unionists were able to admit that they rejoice in living off the dole I could have a shred of respect for their position.

Or, even better, if they were willing to show strategies out of a (supposed) 22% deficit instead of chanting "Fiscal transfers! Fiscal transfers! Fiscal transfers!" within their beloved UK I'd be more than willing to hear them.

[Ozyhibby]

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If unionists were able to admit that they rejoice in living off the dole I could have a shred of respect for their position.

Or, even better, if they were willing to show strategies out of a (supposed) 22% deficit instead of chanting "Fiscal transfers! Fiscal transfers! Fiscal transfers!" within their beloved UK I'd be more than willing to hear them.

No chance now. Scotland will always be kept this way so that they can say we would not manage on our own.
They are in charge of our economy and plan to keep it as small as possible.


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[Glory Lurker]

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No chance now. Scotland will always be kept this way so that they can say we would not manage on our own.
They are in charge of our economy and plan to keep it as small as possible.


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Spot on.

[Ozyhibby]

https://youtu.be/KK9f0rB2Bdk


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[The Pointer]

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No chance now. Scotland will always be kept this way so that they can say we would not manage on our own.
They are in charge of our economy and plan to keep it as small as possible.


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What does Kate Forbes do and where did the Covid money go?

[Ozyhibby]

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What does Kate Forbes do and where did the Covid money go?

She manages Scotland’s spending. And does a fine job, balancing the books. She is not the chancellor though. She has no control over taxation, borrowing, monetary policy etc that people in her position in normal countries have.
Not sure what you mean by where did the Covid money go?


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[ronaldo7]

New Unite general secretary, Sharon Graham, is open to Scotland having another independence referendum.

The times are changing, as she puts pressure on Sir keir, and Anas Sarwar

[cabbageandribs1875]

Mauritius wrestling control of chagos islands from the not-so great britain, go them


British stamps banned from Chagos Islands in Indian Ocean - BBC News

All indications so far show that on the Chagos issue Britain has almost no allies left, our correspondent says

go Tories

[Moulin Yarns]

https://www.fiscalcommission.scot/pu...s-august-2021/

All forecasts revised favourably 👍

[Moulin Yarns]

https://news.stv.tv/politics/jack-in...s-above-60?top

That’s very honourable of him. 🙄

Define consistently and for a reasonable length of time????


And who decides?

[Ozyhibby]

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https://news.stv.tv/politics/jack-in...s-above-60?top

That’s very honourable of him.

Define consistently and for a reasonable length of time????


And who decides?

Who we elect doesn’t matter to unionists.


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[McSwanky]

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"Alister Jack’s statement is the first time a minister has defined conditions for allowing another vote on Scottish independence to take place."


It really isn't.

[Crunchie]

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Who we elect doesn’t matter to unionists.


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You can rattle out that nonsense till the cows come home, it doesn't make it true and your fantasy that anyone who doesn't vote for Independence is a unionist is more rubbish as you must know but you spout it repeatedly anyway.

[Peevemor]

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You can rattle out that nonsense till the cows come home... .

[ACLeith]

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"Alister Jack’s statement is the first time a minister has defined conditions for allowing another vote on Scottish independence to take place."


It really isn't.

Seems fair to me. Provided he accepts that they can only form a government if they get more than 60% of the vote

[greenlex]

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You can rattle out that nonsense till the cows come home, it doesn't make it true and your fantasy that anyone who doesn't vote for Independence is a unionist is more rubbish as you must know but you spout it repeatedly anyway.

If you don’t want independence then by definition you are a unionist. Maybe you want to be the 51st state of the USA of course ?

[CloudSquall]

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https://news.stv.tv/politics/jack-in...s-above-60?top

That’s very honourable of him. 🙄

Define consistently and for a reasonable length of time????


And who decides?

I had a quick look on Wiki and since 2014 there has never been one poll with No anywhere near 60% support.


Why is 60% only a requirement for one side of the debate?

[ronaldo7]

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I had a quick look on Wiki and since 2014 there has never been one poll with No anywhere near 60% support.


Why is 60% only a requirement for one side of the debate?

It's what they do. Tell us that we can't have this or that unless the rules they've made up are adhered to. It's like asking for a positive case for the union, all you get is serving flags and telling people how global we are.

Let's hope the electorate have been watching when we eventually get to vote again.

[CloudSquall]

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You can rattle out that nonsense till the cows come home, it doesn't make it true and your fantasy that anyone who doesn't vote for Independence is a unionist is more rubbish as you must know but you spout it repeatedly anyway.

Surely by voting against independence the voter in question supports a union with England and therefore is a unionist?