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    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
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    I would agree. Too soft from McGinn again, easily beaten to get the cross in for their goal tonight and no one challenging the header.
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    McGinn was excellent last season but has had quite a few sloppy moments this season already. As it stands just now though he has no competition for his place.
    Agree both.

    And we can add Gogic to the "was ok last season but isnae really good enough" list............

    We have now lost a soft headed goal Scottish Cup Final, Two soft headed goals on Sunday and one tonight.

    We simply dont have a commanding presence in the middle................so might as well add Hanlon to that list too.

    I dont want to sound like Mr Doom, as we have great midfield and attacking options now, but we are soft as my first ***** at the back.


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    McGinn was excellent last season but has had quite a few sloppy moments this season already. As it stands just now though he has no competition for his place.
    Yip. He was probably my worst man of the match tonight. Some poor play and decision making by him. He failed to control an easy enough pass to him and it went straight out of play which is criminal against european sides. Has to pull his socks up in the games ahead which he is capable of as we've seen in the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoboHarry View Post
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    Do you think that McGinn is unprofessional enough to let his standards fall because he has no competition? Seriously?
    It wasn’t really the point I was making, more so even if he has poor games he’s not going to be dropped. But to answer your question no, not intentionally, but having competition for your place is never a bad thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by green day View Post
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    Agree both.

    And we can add Gogic to the "was ok last season but isnae really good enough" list............

    We have now lost a soft headed goal Scottish Cup Final, Two soft headed goals on Sunday and one tonight.

    We simply dont have a commanding presence in the middle................so might as well add Hanlon to that list too.

    I dont want to sound like Mr Doom, as we have great midfield and attacking options now, but we are soft as my first ***** at the back.
    Gogic has looked really poor the past few games, he has his strengths but to me although a different type of player JDH plays instead of him. Bar the goal I thought PH was good tonight, but thought Porto was excellent, a really measured mature performance from him.

    We definitely need another centre back though. I don’t think we’ll sign another striker unless we lose one of Boyle or Nisbet, I think Mueller will provide that cover assuming we can get him in early.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northernhibs View Post
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    Yip. He was probably my worst man of the match tonight. Some poor play and decision making by him. He failed to control an easy enough pass to him and it went straight out of play which is criminal against european sides. Has to pull his socks up in the games ahead which he is capable of as we've seen in the past.
    Criminal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northernhibs View Post
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    Yip. He was probably my worst man of the match tonight. Some poor play and decision making by him. He failed to control an easy enough pass to him and it went straight out of play which is criminal against european sides. Has to pull his socks up in the games ahead which he is capable of as we've seen in the past.
    Very over the top. Not his best game but nobody let themselves down tonight.

    An extra couple of options across the back in this window and a striker and I’m happy.


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    Still think we will have a busy few weeks in the transfermarket, we currently have a squad of 24 according to transfermarket

    Out of the 24 there are a few mid to long term injury concerns, Makie, Cadden and Hallberg.

    There are a few who are struggling to get into the 1st team I-e Gullan, Bradley, Wright and McGregor.

    Obviously some of the above give is some depth and can help from the bench but still expect 3 more in maybe 4 if we can get Mueller in.

    Enjoyed what is seen tonight to be fair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordy M View Post
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    Another striker would be nice but our front three scored almost 50 goals last year, they are all still here, we have averaged over 2 goals a game so far this season. Because we missed a couple of chances doesnt mean that bringing in a 3rd striker, who will pribably be a back up will change anything radically.
    But if you go with 2 up top which I think we might do for the rest of the season (don’t think one up there suits us or Kev) you’ve got no-one to bring on off the bench. Bringing on Mackay tonight and putting him up top highlighted that. A striker finishes his chance

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    Still think we need:
    A first choice left back (assuming Doig goes)
    A good back up RB to keep McGinn’s standards up.
    A genuinely commanding centre half.
    A keeper who can deal with crosses (it is no coincidence we lost headed goals in the cup last year when Rocky didn’t play. Macey is decent but does not command his area.)
    A nasty defensive mid who can break the play up and wind up opponents.
    A “number 10” attacking mid.
    A decent back up striker option.
    A left winger.

    Best of luck, Hibs. 🤣

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    Quote Originally Posted by AL-Qaholik View Post
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    Still think we need:
    A first choice left back (assuming Doig goes)
    A good back up RB to keep McGinn’s standards up.
    A genuinely commanding centre half.
    A keeper who can deal with crosses (it is no coincidence we lost headed goals in the cup last year when Rocky didn’t play. Macey is decent but does not command his area.)
    A nasty defensive mid who can break the play up and wind up opponents.
    A “number 10” attacking mid.
    A decent back up striker option.
    A left winger.

    Best of luck, Hibs. 🤣
    You’re well off the mark here. A left winger? We’ve got Murphy and Mackay for left wing. Agree with maybe LB if doig goes, striker and a CB but not the rest

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuart93 View Post
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    But if you go with 2 up top which I think we might do for the rest of the season (don’t think one up there suits us or Kev) you’ve got no-one to bring on off the bench. Bringing on Mackay tonight and putting him up top highlighted that. A striker finishes his chance
    Do they? How do you know that? So no striker has missed a one on one?This is getting silly now, first we have if Hanlon and Stevenson werent playing then it would have been 2-0 and if a 'striker' was playing instead of McKay then it would have been 2-1??

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    Agree both.

    And we can add Gogic to the "was ok last season but isnae really good enough" list............

    We have now lost a soft headed goal Scottish Cup Final, Two soft headed goals on Sunday and one tonight.

    We simply dont have a commanding presence in the middle................so might as well add Hanlon to that list too.

    I dont want to sound like Mr Doom, as we have great midfield and attacking options now, but we are soft as my first ***** at the back.
    Hanlon and Porteous were absolutely immense tonight and even played 3 against 3 for the last 15 minutes. Yes McGinn was too easily beaten but mistakes happen. To criticise our central defenders tonight in any way is way out of line. Porteous in particular I thought was probably the best player on the park.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordy M View Post
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    Do they? How do you know that? So no striker has missed a one on one?This is getting silly now, first we have if Hanlon and Stevenson werent playing then it would have been 2-0 and if a 'striker' was playing instead of McKay then it would have been 2-1??
    I’d have fancied a striker more in that position than a winger aye, of course I don’t know for certain.

    There’s nout silly about what I’ve said. We need another striker to bring on and have done since last season

    I’ve not said **** all either about Stevenson or Hanlon not playing would’ve meant it was 2-0 😂

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffers View Post
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    McGinn was excellent last season but has had quite a few sloppy moments this season already. As it stands just now though he has no competition for his place.
    And has to play most games There were times last season he needed rested


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    I’d have fancied a striker more in that position than a winger aye, of course I don’t know for certain.

    There’s nout silly about what I’ve said. We need another striker to bring on and have done since last season

    I’ve not said **** all either about Stevenson or Hanlon not playing would’ve meant it was 2-0 😂
    You never said you’d fancy a striker more, you said a striker would finish that. There’s a big difference, would a striker have peeled off to the left and had the pace for it? Mackay has scored plenty of goals, we could do with another but I’ve no issue whatsoever with Boyle and Mackay being able to go play up there if our two first choice are out for whatever reason.

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    You never said you’d fancy a striker more, you said a striker would finish that. There’s a big difference, would a striker have peeled off to the left and had the pace for it? Mackay has scored plenty of goals, we could do with another but I’ve no issue whatsoever with Boyle and Mackay being able to go play up there if our two first choice are out for whatever reason.
    Aye because I think a striker would finish that chance. In fact i think any player with a bit more composure would’ve finished that.

    Na I’d rather we brought in a striker who plays as a striker as oppose to moving in winger in there. So does our manager it would seem as he wants one in

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    Quote Originally Posted by AL-Qaholik View Post
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    Still think we need:
    A first choice left back (assuming Doig goes)
    A good back up RB to keep McGinn’s standards up.
    A genuinely commanding centre half.
    A keeper who can deal with crosses (it is no coincidence we lost headed goals in the cup last year when Rocky didn’t play. Macey is decent but does not command his area.)
    A nasty defensive mid who can break the play up and wind up opponents.
    A “number 10” attacking mid.
    A decent back up striker option.
    A left winger.

    Best of luck, Hibs. 🤣
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuart93 View Post
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    I’d have fancied a striker more in that position than a winger aye, of course I don’t know for certain.

    There’s nout silly about what I’ve said. We need another striker to bring on and have done since last season

    I’ve not said **** all either about Stevenson or Hanlon not playing would’ve meant it was 2-0 ��
    I never said you said anything about hanlon or stevenson so calm down pettel, you said another striker would have scored which you cant know, like a another poster who said we wouldve won 2-0 if PH and LS werent playing which they cant know.
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    Aye because I think a striker would finish that chance. In fact i think any player with a bit more composure would’ve finished that.

    Na I’d rather we brought in a striker who plays as a striker as oppose to moving in winger in there. So does our manager it would seem as he wants one in
    ‘A striker finishes that’ to ‘of course I don’t know for certain’ to ‘I think a striker would finish that’… impressive.

    He is trying to bring one in, it would be handy, but it’ll be difficult to find a third choice striker who is better in that position that Boyle for example who has been outstanding there at times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordy M View Post
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    I never said you said anything about hanlon or stevenson so calm down pettle, you said another striker would have scored which you cant know, like a another poster who said we wouldve won 2-0 if PH and LS werent playing which they cant know.
    I think you’re the one who needs to relax mate, I’d fancy a striker in that situ.

    You keep bringing up this Stevenson Hanlon 2-0 debate which has nothing to do with my post. Weird.

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    ‘A striker finishes that’ to ‘of course I don’t know for certain’ to ‘I think a striker would finish that’… impressive.

    He is trying to bring one in, it would be handy, but it’ll be difficult to find a third choice striker who is better in that position that Boyle for example who has been outstanding there at times.
    Aye, a striker finishes that as in I’m confident a striker would finish that chance. Christ, incredibly pedantic.

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    Just back home from the game and thought I’d log on to see what was being said about a good European performance against a side with a much better recent pedigree.

    Did not expect to see infighting about players who were immense individually and as a unit. Pretty poor, in my opinion of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuart93 View Post
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    I think you’re the one who needs to relax mate, I’d fancy a striker in that situ.

    You keep bringing up this Stevenson Hanlon 2-0 debate which has nothing to do with my post. Weird.
    Thats not what you said initially but crack on. If you cant underdtand the relevance of what another poster wrote and what you wrote......then what can i tell you. The 2 of you seem to have a crystal ball as to what would have happened if different players were playing.

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    Aye, a striker finishes that as in I’m confident a striker would finish that chance. Christ, incredibly pedantic.
    Nothing pedantic about it, you made a statement that you then agreed that you don’t really believe. I don’t think a striker makes the movement Mackay makes or has the pace Mackay does to get there. It was a good save and he was obviously disappointed but I’ve seen our own two first choice strikers Miss far easier chances than that, and plenty of them! Nisbet couldn’t hit a barn door tonight.

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    Nothing pedantic about it, you made a statement that you then agreed that you don’t really believe. I don’t think a striker makes the movement Mackay makes or has the pace Mackay does to get there. It was a good save and he was obviously disappointed but I’ve seen our own two first choice strikers Miss far easier chances than that, and plenty of them! Nisbet couldn’t hit a barn door tonight.
    It had nothing to do with pace, Allan laid the ball on a plate for Mackay he’s not had to get a sprint on to get there

    I disagree it was a good save, it was a really poor miss imo. Opportunities you can’t really be missing at this level.

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    It had nothing to do with pace, Allan laid the ball on a plate for Mackay he’s not had to get a sprint on to get there

    I disagree it was a good save, it was a really poor miss imo. Opportunities you can’t really be missing at this level.

    Disagree, Allan played it to his feet but Mackay touch and pace got him across the defender and gave him the opportunity.

    Poor finish but it was rushed, think he should have opened up and went with his right.

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    Disagree, Allan played it to his feet but Mackay touch and pace got him across the defender and gave him the opportunity.

    Poor finish but it was rushed, think he should have opened up and went with his right.
    I’d maybe need to see it again then but I thought it was on a plate

    Aye or low and hard to a corner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibernian Verse View Post
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    Just back home from the game and thought I’d log on to see what was being said about a good European performance against a side with a much better recent pedigree.

    Did not expect to see infighting about players who were immense individually and as a unit. Pretty poor, in my opinion of course.
    I’m the same mate.

    We were the much better team and that’s a Rijeka team that are in Europe most seasons and so well.

    It was a poor goal but I could see I weirdly saw it coming when it started over on the right. They upped the tempo and I don’t know if it’s just that Hibs fans feeling you get.

    But on another night we score some of the great chances we created

    They labelled us a long ball team and plenty fans moan about our style. We passed them off the park and we’re brilliant on the ball.

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    I’m the same mate.

    We were the much better team and that’s a Rijeka team that are in Europe most seasons and so well.

    It was a poor goal but I could see I weirdly saw it coming when it started over on the right. They upped the tempo and I don’t know if it’s just that Hibs fans feeling you get.

    But on another night we score some of the great chances we created

    They labelled us a long ball team and plenty fans moan about our style. We passed them off the park and we’re brilliant on the ball.

    Agree 100% I don’t think people realise how good we actually are. Compared to not so long ago

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