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    Quote Originally Posted by RyeSloan View Post
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    Most transfer fees are kind of relevant to what the player has done since his last transfer!

    Player moves, does well, price goes up. Player moves, doesn’t do anything of note apart from getting sent off then gets a long term injury, price goes down.

    Paying €4m for Hickey now would be a rather strange thing to do considering his lack of impact since his move to Italy. There can’t be many examples of a players fee doubling after such a underwhelming season like Hickey had.

    And if Bologna are happy to get rid why would Celtic start negotiations at twice the price? Boy must have a good agent if that is the case!
    What Nisbet has done since has nothing to do with the very simple point.

    The question was why anyone would pay double for a player they could have got a year ago.

    We had an example after 6 months of an offer ten times what that club could have paid when we did.

    Not complicated.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CMurdoch View Post
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    That rumour makes no sense.
    They need real established quality players in to get anywhere near Rangers this season especially when their best players are on the leaving launch pad and the loan striker has gone back to Southampton.

    Hickey will be a lot better than Laxalt.

    On that basis, it’s an upgrade.

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    Yes, as do Celtic.

    So if Celtic buy him they get a refund from themselves.
    I think Hickeys dad is trying very hard to get his son to Celtic, he seemed to play a big part in getting him to Bologna as well. Good luck to the lad and Celtic need a new left back. They need a lot better than Hickey though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3pm View Post
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    But is better than Shankland at the end of the day? Which was the point.
    Only for a brief period, Nisbet lost form but managed to get it back at the right time, whereas Shankland didn't, if Leigh hadn't been so pants this past 2 seasons, probably neither would've got in the team. I don't think there's much between them TBH, in a decent team like Hibs, Shankland would've scored plenty too.

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    If these two Russian clubs are also in the mix for Nisbet we could be talking serious cash

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuart93 View Post
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    If these two Russian clubs are also in the mix for Nisbet we could be talking serious cash
    Not really, they’ll just meet our valuation, if we ask for too much theyll just sign someone else. Auctions for players doesn’t happen.

    Will be extremely lucrative for the player no doubt and the more clubs interested the better for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bingo70 View Post
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    Not really, they’ll just meet our valuation, if we ask for too much theyll just sign someone else. Auctions for players doesn’t happen.

    Will be extremely lucrative for the player no doubt and the more clubs interested the better for him.
    But if a club really wants a player it drives up the price surely? If they want them and they have a decent bit of cash to spend surely they don’t walk away for the sake of a £1m for example? Pocket money for them but could be the difference between us getting £4m or £5m

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuart93 View Post
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    If these two Russian clubs are also in the mix for Nisbet we could be talking serious cash
    Only if he wants to go there. Not entirely sure he would if the reported Celtic interest is true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnM1875 View Post
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    Only if he wants to go there. Not entirely sure he would if the reported Celtic interest is true.
    But what do we do as a club? Celtic offer you £3m and the Russians come in with £4m? You tell Celtic to up it or **** off

    We won’t be held to ransom by a player that still has 3 years on his deal

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    Quote Originally Posted by bingo70 View Post
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    Not really, they’ll just meet our valuation, if we ask for too much theyll just sign someone else. Auctions for players doesn’t happen.

    Will be extremely lucrative for the player no doubt and the more clubs interested the better for him.
    Personally I would be delighted if they meet our valuation, more than can be said of the lesser greens, we take the money and put it to good use with finding a replacement, hopefully using the same model, with another young talent and we continue to progress as a club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuart93 View Post
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    But what do we do as a club? Celtic offer you £3m and the Russians come in with £4m? You tell Celtic to up it or **** off
    Totally get what you're saying, but he can easily turn down a move to Russia, regardless of what they offer us transfer wise.

    So then as a club, we'd probably accept the next best offer, which might or might not be Celtic.

    When it comes to transfers where there's a few clubs reportedly interested, the power is well and truly in the players hands.

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    But the player can always refuse to go then your left with the player thinking he’s not wanted at the club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CMurdoch View Post
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    Probably not a runner if you are actually a huge Hibby
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs View Post
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    Says snake hips Bremner! 😁
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    Bottom line, we are in no hurry to sell for a price lower then our valuation. Hibs hold the cards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuart93 View Post
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    But what do we do as a club? Celtic offer you £3m and the Russians come in with £4m? You tell Celtic to up it or **** off

    We won’t be held to ransom by a player that still has 3 years on his deal
    I do agree with you, but if he point blank doesn't want to go to Russia and everyone else is only willing to pony up £3m/£3.5m then we're stuck in a situation where we have a player who perhaps wants to leave still. Celtic would simply turn around and go "We don't care what the Russians offered, he's not going there."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centre Hawf View Post
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    I do agree with you, but if he point blank doesn't want to go to Russia and everyone else is only willing to pony up £3m/£3.5m then we're stuck in a situation where we have a player who perhaps wants to leave still. Celtic would simply turn around and go "We don't care what the Russians offered, he's not going there."
    Then we don’t sell him …and tell him to get his head down and get playing ….

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    Then we don’t sell him …and tell him to get his head down and get playing ….
    Which I'm sure we will, like we did in January. My only concerns with that approach is that we can only hold out for so long like that. Yes he has 3 years left but is he guaranteed to bang 20 goals a season for us in all 3? Then will he probably up and leave for free having maybe been a bit of a burden in that time?

    I also find you need to be wary of how the clubs position looks to potential new signings. It must be easier to persuade the next Kevin Nibset we're the best place for him when we point to the last one having a wonderful time with us and moving on to a bigger club and playing for Scotland regularly. Rather than trying to milk every single penny we could out of him and not letting him leave for years at numerous points for what could be described as very fair bids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centre Hawf View Post
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    Which I'm sure we will, like we did in January. My only concerns with that approach is that we can only hold out for so long like that. Yes he has 3 years left but is he guaranteed to bang 20 goals a season for us in all 3? Then will he probably up and leave for free having maybe been a bit of a burden in that time?

    I also find you need to be wary of how the clubs position looks to potential new signings. It must be easier to persuade the next Kevin Nibset we're the best place for him when we point to the last one having a wonderful time with us and moving on to a bigger club and playing for Scotland regularly. Rather than trying to milk every single penny we could out of him and not letting him leave for years at numerous points for what could be described as very fair bids.
    He’s only been here one year though. Making a player we invested a lot of money in play a second season in the absence of an acceptable bid would not seem unreasonable. If we are patient, we’ll get the £4m for Nisbet.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Centre Hawf View Post
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    I do agree with you, but if he point blank doesn't want to go to Russia and everyone else is only willing to pony up £3m/£3.5m then we're stuck in a situation where we have a player who perhaps wants to leave still. Celtic would simply turn around and go "We don't care what the Russians offered, he's not going there."
    The thing is the 4 million widely reprorted as the fee hibs value him at does not seem to be putting clubs of noting interest. You have to think one will make a move in the next few days which then will see the others follow. Then its up to the agents to get the best deal for him.
    Russia certainly pay big wages to get guys to go there it would not suprise me to see hom go there

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    Speaking on his future, Nisbet’s agent said (quoted by*Edinburgh Live):
    “Krasnodar is really interested in Kevin. They first got in touch a few months ago, and since then we have been in touch.
    “He also likes Spartak Moscow. They got in touch, we talked.”


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    Quote Originally Posted by Centre Hawf View Post
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    Which I'm sure we will, like we did in January. My only concerns with that approach is that we can only hold out for so long like that. Yes he has 3 years left but is he guaranteed to bang 20 goals a season for us in all 3? Then will he probably up and leave for free having maybe been a bit of a burden in that time?

    I also find you need to be wary of how the clubs position looks to potential new signings. It must be easier to persuade the next Kevin Nibset we're the best place for him when we point to the last one having a wonderful time with us and moving on to a bigger club and playing for Scotland regularly. Rather than trying to milk every single penny we could out of him and not letting him leave for years at numerous points for what could be described as very fair bids.
    Plays both ways that..any prospect will see coming to us and doing well gets you noticed ….

    English clubs will be in the mix too - I’m sure he will go this summer ..(in all honesty I think it’s likely too early for him to get regular starts time down there or at Celtic ). And I’m sure we will get a good fee for him

    Those recent posts suggests he will be more than happy to go to Russia. And why not. Moscow as an example is a beautiful city

    If he had real confidence in his ability he should stay at least one more season and go ready to keep down his place - but I can understand him wanting to secure his future - no one can resent that for him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centre Hawf View Post
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    Which I'm sure we will, like we did in January. My only concerns with that approach is that we can only hold out for so long like that. Yes he has 3 years left but is he guaranteed to bang 20 goals a season for us in all 3? Then will he probably up and leave for free having maybe been a bit of a burden in that time?

    I also find you need to be wary of how the clubs position looks to potential new signings. It must be easier to persuade the next Kevin Nibset we're the best place for him when we point to the last one having a wonderful time with us and moving on to a bigger club and playing for Scotland regularly. Rather than trying to milk every single penny we could out of him and not letting him leave for years at numerous points for what could be described as very fair bids.

    You’re spot on. It’s a balancing act.

    I hope Nisbet stays another season and continues his development as a player with us, but if he’s determined to go this summer then he probably will.

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    If Kevin Nisbet does leave this ‘ close season ‘ I feel sorry as a HIBS fan that we never got to see him play in the flesh and that we never had the chance to bond with him

    It would not be the first time that ‘ Celtic minded’ players have grown to love our club

    Whatever happens I wish him all the best for the future

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenworld View Post
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    Speaking on his future, Nisbet’s agent said (quoted by*Edinburgh Live):
    “Krasnodar is really interested in Kevin. They first got in touch a few months ago, and since then we have been in touch.
    “He also likes Spartak Moscow. They got in touch, we talked.”


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    So Hibs must have given permission for these talks to happen. You can’t discuss a player’s future with another club he’s contracted to unless it’s the last 6 months of his deal or owning club allows. Or have I got that wrong?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar T Grouch View Post
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    So Hibs must have given permission for these talks to happen. You can’t discuss a player’s future with another club he’s contracted to unless it’s the last 6 months of his deal or owning club allows. Or have I got that wrong?

    You can’t talk to the player, officially at any rate.

    Anyhow the whole system is just a free for all now.

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    Right, can we just go ahead and sell him please? With a replacement in too? This is just going to drag on and on and he clearly doesn't want to be here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar T Grouch View Post
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    So Hibs must have given permission for these talks to happen. You can’t discuss a player’s future with another club he’s contracted to unless it’s the last 6 months of his deal or owning club allows. Or have I got that wrong?

    I dont think there is anything to stop a club speaking to a players agent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacomo View Post
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    You can’t talk to the player, officially at any rate.

    Anyhow the whole system is just a free for all now.
    Cheers jacomo never sure if rules change and I just miss them. 👍🏻


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    Signing a 4 year deal and then throwing his toys out the pram after 6 months means we have a player who is not committed to the club. Putting a transfer request in when he was advised the bid for him was not acceptable to the club shows that. Get shot of but only on our terms and we move on.

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