What's the chances of fans going back in September?

[heidtheba]

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Stats are stats but there are folk in hospital who have had both vaccines and when that is the case hospitals ability to function as what was normal prior to covid is reduced. We will have to wait and see exactly the extent of hospital admissions following second vaccines, and that is during a period of restricted circulation. They will have to calculate what that would translate into following lifting restrictions, different environments completely.

Having recently come out of the Regional Infections Diseases Unit for COVID myself, I really hope the double vaccine works as well as possible, if for no other reason than the staff deserve to feel as protected as possible. I was in awe of them, their level of care was first rate and to think they did this last year when there was no vaccine...it's very humbling.

[JXM73]

Thats that ****ed then, well done.

No way football fans be in grounds soon...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-57667163

[AugustaHibs]

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Thats that ****ed then, well done.

No way football fans be in grounds soon...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-57667163

Why would this affect it? You could argue the fact that the reason this has happened is that people aren’t in grounds. Much safer sitting in the stadium than sitting in a pub

[JXM73]

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Why would this affect it? You could argue the fact that the reason this has happened is that people aren’t in grounds. Much safer sitting in the stadium than sitting in a pub

Hope so, just the timing (day after last game at Hampden) and talk of fans back next month, we fans are an easy target

[Sir David Gray]

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Thats that ****ed then, well done.

No way football fans be in grounds soon...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-57667163

If social distancing measures are removed on 9th August, which Sturgeon said only yesterday we remain on track to achieve, I don't see why this news should affect the planned return of supporters.

[SteveHFC]

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If social distancing measures are removed on 9th August, which Sturgeon said only yesterday we remain on track to achieve, I don't see why this news should affect the planned return of supporters.

Spot on.

[WhileTheChief..]

When this all started it was to save lives and protect the NHS.

We were warned of a shortage of beds and ventilators and the NHS being on the brink of collapse.

None of that applies anymore so why the hell are we still dicking around with this?

When did it change to ‘we want to eradicate COVID from the country’?

Get things open and let us live our lives, just as Hancock has been doing all year.

[Just Alf]

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When this all started it was to save lives and protect the NHS.

We were warned of a shortage of beds and ventilators and the NHS being on the brink of collapse.

None of that applies anymore so why the hell are we still dicking around with this?

When did it change to ‘we want to eradicate COVID from the country’?

Get things open and let us live our lives, just as Hancock has been doing all year.

I think that's what the vaccine roll out is all about.... once we're near as dam completed then things open much more. That seems to be what the 4 nations are all striving for.

Just be glad we're not in a country where a slow roll out, even vaccine resistance is going to extend lockdown periods... see Aus as a case in point.

[Moulin Yarns]

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When this all started it was to save lives and protect the NHS.

We were warned of a shortage of beds and ventilators and the NHS being on the brink of collapse.

None of that applies anymore so why the hell are we still dicking around with this?

When did it change to ‘we want to eradicate COVID from the country’?

Get things open and let us live our lives, just as Hancock has been doing all year.

Ahem!!

There might not be a shortage of beds, but staff self isolating is still a problem

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...lands-57663793

[WhileTheChief..]

Yeah, but the narrative has totally changed.

I've not heard a single politician saying 'protect the NHS' for months. That was the whole point of lockdown in the first place.

[Ronniekirk]

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When this all started it was to save lives and protect the NHS.

We were warned of a shortage of beds and ventilators and the NHS being on the brink of collapse.

None of that applies anymore so why the hell are we still dicking around with this?

When did it change to ‘we want to eradicate COVID from the country’?

Get things open and let us live our lives, just as Hancock has been doing all year.

There is an acceptance we can’t eradicate it and we now need to learn to live with it
So let’s get on with that


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[ABZHFC]

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Thats that ****ed then, well done.

No way football fans be in grounds soon...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-57667163

What a stupid post

[BlackSheep]

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What a stupid post

Not sure how this is a stupid post? 4200 cases yesterday alone… I’d wager that another lockdown may be imminent, perhaps not as strict as before but things like large gatherings will be stopped as soon as they can with the rise in cases.

It’s down to those having had 1 or even 2 jabs thinking they’re now invincible and spreading it, the younger generations, many of whom have not had even a single dose, are spreading this Delta variant like wildfire!

[Ronniekirk]

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Not sure how this is a stupid post? 4200 cases yesterday alone… I’d wager that another lockdown may be imminent, perhaps not as strict as before but things like large gatherings will be stopped as soon as they can with the rise in cases.

It’s down to those having had 1 or even 2 jabs thinking they’re now invincible and spreading it, the younger generations, many of whom have not had even a single dose, are spreading this Delta variant like wildfire!

But the new mantra is cases increasing isn’t such a concern as it’s not leading to big increases in hospitalisation and people are not getting as ill
Hence all the talk about we now need to learn to live with the virus



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[AugustaHibs]

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Not sure how this is a stupid post? 4200 cases yesterday alone… I’d wager that another lockdown may be imminent, perhaps not as strict as before but things like large gatherings will be stopped as soon as they can with the rise in cases.

It’s down to those having had 1 or even 2 jabs thinking they’re now invincible and spreading it, the younger generations, many of whom have not had even a single dose, are spreading this Delta variant like wildfire!

Not happening. Worrying about cases creates a casedemic. Let’s worry about folk dying and ending up in hospital and not fully vaccinated people essentially having the sniffles

[blackpoolhibs]

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Not happening. Worrying about cases creates a casedemic. Let’s worry about folk dying and ending up in hospital and not fully vaccinated people essentially having the sniffles

This is where i am now, unless there is a new strain that evolves into something the vaccines wont touch, we now need to get on with life.

Hospitals are not full of covid cases now, and that was the reason we shut everything down, they are not so lets crack on.

This virus is not going away, we have to learn to live with it.

[GreenCastle]

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This is where i am now, unless there is a new strain that evolves into something the vaccines wont touch, we now need to get on with life.

Hospitals are not full of covid cases now, and that was the reason we shut everything down, they are not so lets crack on.

This virus is not going away, we have to learn to live with it.

Yup - folk should be worried about other illnesses being forgotten about and waiting times for other life threading conditions. There has to be a balance.

Anyway seems Hearts being told 2000 for league cup games and then full stadiums by 9th August when social distancing is eased.

High possibility Hearts v Hibs in early September will be a full stadium.

[Billy Whizz]

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Yup - folk should be worried about other illnesses being forgotten about and waiting times for other life threading conditions. There has to be a balance.

Anyway seems Hearts being told 2000 for league cup games and then full stadiums by 9th August when social distancing is eased.

High possibility Hearts v Hibs in early September will be a full stadium.

Think Hearts are hoping to have 4,000 fans for the opening game v Celtic, with no away fans permitted

[marinello59]

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Yup - folk should be worried about other illnesses being forgotten about and waiting times for other life threading conditions. There has to be a balance.

Anyway seems Hearts being told 2000 for league cup games and then full stadiums by 9th August when social distancing is eased.

High possibility Hearts v Hibs in early September will be a full stadium.

If that 2000 figure is correct then there is no chance of 5000 v Arsenal then.

[Moulin Yarns]

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If that 2000 figure is correct then there is no chance of 5000 v Arsenal then.

Hearts ceo mentioned it for the league Cup games on Sportsound. Agreed between the clubs in the group and home fans only. Because of the size of the grounds.

[O'Rourke3]

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This is where i am now, unless there is a new strain that evolves into something the vaccines wont touch, we now need to get on with life.

Hospitals are not full of covid cases now, and that was the reason we shut everything down, they are not so lets crack on.

This virus is not going away, we have to learn to live with it.

The new strain will only mutate from more people getting it now and potentially meaning vaccines existing now are bypassed. Just getting on with it and letting folks spread it is very shortsighted. Vaccination numbers have to be higher in all age groups.

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[Just Alf]

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The new strain will only mutate from more people getting it now and potentially meaning vaccines existing now are bypassed. Just getting on with it and letting folks spread it is very shortsighted. Vaccination numbers have to be higher in all age groups.

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It's a bit like playing dice... with 12 dice.

The chances if getting 12 6's is low, the more times you throw them the more chance you get if getting the 12 match.

We really need to be minimising the number of 'throws' the virus is given until we've vaxxed everyone that can be, once at that point it'll be in the lap of the gods I guess.


Edit in my dice scenario a match of 10 or 11 could be something worse than we have now, a 12 could well be one we struggled to deal with at all.

[blackpoolhibs]

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The new strain will only mutate from more people getting it now and potentially meaning vaccines existing now are bypassed. Just getting on with it and letting folks spread it is very shortsighted. Vaccination numbers have to be higher in all age groups.

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Ok, then lets all sit indoors until this virus is gone, as there is no other way to sort it. It will always be around unless we vaccinate everyone, and do you really believe thats going to happen?

[Onion]

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Thats that ****ed then, well done.

No way football fans be in grounds soon...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-57667163

Suspect most infection spread was during group travel and in pubs. Spending 20 hours in a bus with a bunch of strangers, with no covid protocols is a bit mad. None of that will be needed for games restricted to home fans only, and who are local.

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Why would this affect it? You could argue the fact that the reason this has happened is that people aren’t in grounds. Much safer sitting in the stadium than sitting in a pub

Indeed, technically everyone in Wembley tested negative or had a double dose.

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[The dalmeny]

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The new strain will only mutate from more people getting it now and potentially meaning vaccines existing now are bypassed. Just getting on with it and letting folks spread it is very shortsighted. Vaccination numbers have to be higher in all age groups.

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what more than 100%?

[Bristolhibby]

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Yup - folk should be worried about other illnesses being forgotten about and waiting times for other life threading conditions. There has to be a balance.

Anyway seems Hearts being told 2000 for league cup games and then full stadiums by 9th August when social distancing is eased.

High possibility Hearts v Hibs in early September will be a full stadium.

Is that the case? Been trying to figure out what the deal is with fans. Obviously I’m down here in England. If it’s full end to regulations then that means full houses at the football? No?

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[Bristolhibby]

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Suspect most infection spread was during group travel and in pubs. Spending 20 hours in a bus with a bunch of strangers, with no covid protocols is a bit mad. None of that will be needed for games restricted to home fans only, and who are local.

Why would there be such restrictions post August 9th?

Game on isn’t it? Full house.

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[O'Rourke3]

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Ok, then lets all sit indoors until this virus is gone, as there is no other way to sort it. It will always be around unless we vaccinate everyone, and do you really believe thats going to happen?

I never said stay indoors. I do have an issue of nothing changing from pre pandemic and getting back to normal too early especially football. With 10000 STs sold thats one of us every other seat. Many will wear a mask but some simply won't even though they could. Many will honour the time allocated to get in and there'll be a mad rush at the end to get out.
The more opportunity we give it to spread the more it will mutate, ******g many more than was necessary. This has not only impact on all affected but slows down the rest of the health service's ability to deal with business as usual. My bowel cancer screening kit arrived yesterday. 7 months after it was expected. I'm as exasperated about the situation as anyone else and looking forward to seeing live football, theatre and concerts but when the time is right. Not when some Sontaran in the disguise of a Health Secretary decides to deal with the situation by shouting at it.

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How many people have looked up Sontaran so far? 😃