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    Quote Originally Posted by 1875Sean View Post
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    Coverage below for tomorrow, think I will be tuning into itv

    ITV

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    Commentary Sam Matterface, Lee Dixon & Ally McCoist

    Pundit Graeme Souness, Gary Neville, Roy Keane Ian Wright Scott Brown

    STV

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    If Scotland win I'll definitely have BBC on post match to hear Ian Wright's thoughts in the result.


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    Coverage below for tomorrow, think I will be tuning into itv

    ITV

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    Commentary Sam Matterface, Lee Dixon & Ally McCoist

    Pundit Graeme Souness, Gary Neville, Roy Keane Ian Wright Scott Brown

    STV

    Presenter Raman Bhardwaj

    Commentary Rory Hamilton & Kevin Gallagher

    Pundits David Moyes, Kenny McLean, John Collins
    You just know that Roy Keane is only there to wind up the losing team. If Scotland lose,I expect Neville and Wright to be patronising with their criticism of Scotland. Whereas Keane with be pretty direct with his comments.

    If Scotland do win, then he'll go for the English jugular.

    Let's hope it's the latter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ian cruise View Post
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    If Scotland win I'll definitely have BBC on post match to hear Ian Wright's thoughts in the result.
    They did zero chance of Scotland winning. Absolutely zero.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ian cruise View Post
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    If Scotland win I'll definitely have BBC on post match to hear Ian Wright's thoughts in the result.
    Wright is on itv.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Col2 View Post
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    They did zero chance of Scotland winning. Absolutely zero.
    Definitely have a chance, England should win but defensively they aren't great and every chance we can score.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1875Sean View Post
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    Coverage below for tomorrow, think I will be tuning into itv

    ITV

    Presenter Mark Pougatch

    Commentary Sam Matterface, Lee Dixon & Ally McCoist

    Pundit Graeme Souness, Gary Neville, Roy Keane Ian Wright Scott Brown

    STV

    Presenter Raman Bhardwaj

    Commentary Rory Hamilton & Kevin Gallagher

    Pundits David Moyes, Kenny McLean, John Collins
    Can you get STV on Sky in England?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimBHibees View Post
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    Wright is on itv.
    Ah, I messed that one up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bristolhibby View Post
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    Can you get STV on Sky in England?

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    I would assume so do they not have all the itv regional channels which assume would include stv.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Col2 View Post
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    They did zero chance of Scotland winning. Absolutely zero.
    I like your negativity but even by a the bookies logic there is a chance. Even at 10/1, there’s a 1 in 10 chance.

    We have to hope that this evening is that 1 in 10.

    I mean, I’ve seen us play England 6 times and we have won once. Not quite 10/1, but close. The games I’ve been at since travelling watching Scotland it’s played three lost 2 drawn 1.

    Remember, even a draw is a result. Draw/Scotland is 5/2. We are definitely in that territory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bristolhibby View Post
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    I like your negativity but even by a the bookies logic there is a chance. Even at 10/1, there’s a 1 in 10 chance.

    We have to hope that this evening is that 1 in 10.

    I mean, I’ve seen us play England 6 times and we have won once. Not quite 10/1, but close. The games I’ve been at since travelling watching Scotland it’s played three lost 2 drawn 1.

    Remember, even a draw is a result. Draw/Scotland is 5/2. We are definitely in that territory.

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    I agree a draw is possible but we will not go to Wembley and win. It would be a monumental shock (like Macedonia beating Germany a month or so ago in Germany).

    I would love nothing more than a win, it would be the best feeling, but our optimism seems to be on the attacking threat of Robertson and having Tierney back and we have 20k TA decended on London. All the noises have come from our camp talking us up. Clarke will play cagey and we won’t know what to do when a goal down, I think England will take 3 of us tonight. I do hope I am wrong but still flat from Monday’s missed opportunity (wrong starting 11, defensive approach and basic mistakes including not converting)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bristolhibby View Post
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    Can you get STV on Sky in England?

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    Think you may do, I know in Scotland you can get itv and different regions of bbc etc so would think you have a chance getting stv if you look, usually it’s the channels just before the radio stations

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    I agree a draw is possible but we will not go to Wembley and win. It would be a monumental shock (like Macedonia beating Germany a month or so ago in Germany).

    I would love nothing more than a win, it would be the best feeling, but our optimism seems to be on the attacking threat of Robertson and having Tierney back and we have 20k TA decended on London. All the noises have come from our camp talking us up. Clarke will play cagey and we won’t know what to do when a goal down, I think England will take 3 of us tonight. I do hope I am wrong but still flat from Monday’s missed opportunity (wrong starting 11, defensive approach and basic mistakes including not converting)
    We didnt take the couple of chances we had and they did, including a freak 2nd goal. Scotland played alright IMO. You've already got us beat tonight before a ball's even been kicked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ekhibee View Post
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    I'd more or less accepeted that England will very likely beat us tomorrow but after hearing Ferdinand's "we'll beat them by at least 2 goals" on MOTD I hope we stuff them. A winning goal in the last minute would do nicely as well mind you.
    Unfortunately I think he'll end up being correct. Still looking forward to a good day out though.

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    Just read that if McAllister had scored the pen at Wembley England had Gazza’s number ready to take him off

    Uri Geller has a lot to answer for 😃

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    Just read that if McAllister had scored the pen at Wembley England had Gazza’s number ready to take him off

    Uri Geller has a lot to answer for 😃

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    Seems a long time since we last saw the Gazza goal on BBC tv,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, about 30 minutes now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Col2 View Post
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    I agree a draw is possible but we will not go to Wembley and win. It would be a monumental shock (like Macedonia beating Germany a month or so ago in Germany).

    I would love nothing more than a win, it would be the best feeling, but our optimism seems to be on the attacking threat of Robertson and having Tierney back and we have 20k TA decended on London. All the noises have come from our camp talking us up. Clarke will play cagey and we won’t know what to do when a goal down, I think England will take 3 of us tonight. I do hope I am wrong but still flat from Monday’s missed opportunity (wrong starting 11, defensive approach and basic mistakes including not converting)
    I don’t think it would be that big a shock if we win. This is a special fixture, the England players are just as capable of having their game diminished by the emotion of the occasion as anybody else. I honestly think we can do this.
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    For gods sake, Jane Dougall reporting on the BBC news has just suggested that Scots fans may just have 'a chip on the old shoulder'

    Deary ****in me

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnMcM View Post
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    Seems a long time since we last saw the Gazza goal on BBC tv,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, about 30 minutes now
    Did he score against Scotland?

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    I don’t think it would be that big a shock if we win. This is a special fixture, the England players are just as capable of having their game diminished by the emotion of the occasion as anybody else. I honestly think we can do this.
    Really?

    I think this is the foregoniest of extremely foregone conclusions. I'd be absolutely stunned if we got a draw.

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    I may have this wrong, but no matter the results this eve we will still have 3rd to play for on Tuesday? Obv unless we get scudded so goal diff is the factor.

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    Really?

    I think this is the foregoniest of extremely foregone conclusions. I'd be absolutely stunned if we got a draw.
    We're 12/1 with some bookies tonight which must be one of the longest match odds at the tournament.

    The bookies are rarely wrong.

    I'll still be watching and hoping though!
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    I may have this wrong, but no matter the results this eve we will still have 3rd to play for on Tuesday? Obv unless we get scudded so goal diff is the factor.
    The first factor is head to head so we won't be eliminated tonight regardless of the result.


    A defeat will make it almost impossible to qualify though.

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    I'm in the doom-monger camp. I honestly don't see us laying a glove on them.

    I hope Clarke's learned his lessons from the Czech game and doesn't set up to prevent them scoring. O'Donnell can't possibly start tonight - Sterling will destroy him. We need positivity in that midfield, and he needs to realise what worked and what didn't on Monday - get Gilmour or Turnbull (or both!) into the lineup, start Forrest and try and be ambitious.

    If he starts with O'Donnell, McGregor, Dykes and leaves the creative/threatening players on the bench to 'see how it goes in the early running', we'll lose by 3 or 4 IMO.

    I'd love to look like a negative nelly, with this being quoted back at me en masse at 10pm tonight.
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    Were not going through . Scotland dont do knockout stages . Does anyone seriously think we will beat Croatia ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by makaveli1875 View Post
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    Were not going through . Scotland dont do knockout stages . Does anyone seriously think we will beat Croatia ?
    Croatia have never beat Scotland and we have already beaten a better team than they currently have

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    I don't think I've ever gone into a game, either as a Hibs fan or as a Scotland fan, less confident of being able to get something from a game.

    That's a wee bit harsh on this Scotland squad, which I think has significantly more quality in it that at any point over the past 20 odd years but it's just the combination of several other factors - the attacking strength of the opposition, the fact that they are at home, the fact that their manager is less likely to have them complacent, the fact that our weaknesses lie in areas where we can be picked off by their stronger players and the likelihood that we'll go with a gameplan that plays to our weaknesses rather than our strengths.

    I also think we've put ourselves in a tricky situation courtesy of our poor result on Monday - a better result there and this could almost have been "free hit" territory (even though I know that will irk many, it's an England Scotland game FFS) which would have allowed our players to approach it with little pressure.

    One positive, and I know it doesn't feel like it ahead of an important game - at worst, the players are gaining invaluable experience here. This is a young and inexperienced squad with years and years ahead of them and I think they'll end up stronger for the experience, whatever that experience turns out to be - a pumping, a glorious defeat, an unlikely result etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir David Gray View Post
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    The first factor is head to head so we won't be eliminated tonight regardless of the result.


    A defeat will make it almost impossible to qualify though.
    So if Croatia beat the CR and we beat Cro. England win all their games, the 3 others will all be on 3 points, surely have a chance then? Even though we are beat this eve? Again dependent on goals i assume?

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    Croatia have never beat Scotland and we have already beaten a better team than they currently have
    Never knew that , oh well a glimmer of hope . still they appear to have a better squad than us and i fully expect Modric to roll back the years and tear us for arsepaper

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir David Gray View Post
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    We're 12/1 with some bookies tonight which must be ome of the longest match odds at the tournament.

    The bookies are rarely wrong.

    I'll still be watching and hoping though!
    The bookies odds reflect the market. With slightly more punters down there backing England the odds are not going to be a true reflection of our chances. I’m gonna stick a fiver on us.
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