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    Quote Originally Posted by Crunchie View Post
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    You believe what he says now that it suits you?
    Even serial liars tell the truth occasionally, normally when it suits there agenda. That said, I wouldn't trust Cummings as far as I could throw him, which is slightly better than how far I could spit Johnson.

    Whatever you think of Cummings or Johnson, these revelations are seriously concerning.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg View Post
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    Even serial liars tell the truth occasionally, normally when it suits there agenda. That said, I wouldn't trust Cummings as far as I could throw him, which is slightly better than how far I could spit Johnson.

    Whatever you think of Cummings or Johnson, these revelations are seriously concerning.
    Either Johnson is lying through his teeth or he’s had someone in a position of influence who is a massive liar, or both. Nobody comes out of this well.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Northernhibee View Post
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    Either Johnson is lying through his teeth or he’s had someone in a position of influence who is a massive liar, or both. Nobody comes out of this well.
    Especially Starmer, he'll end up carrying the can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg View Post
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    Even serial liars tell the truth occasionally, normally when it suits there agenda. That said, I wouldn't trust Cummings as far as I could throw him, which is slightly better than how far I could spit Johnson.

    Whatever you think of Cummings or Johnson, these revelations are seriously concerning.
    Cummings can't be lying, there are loads of witnesses and I'd doubt if every one is going to come out and say he's made it up.

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    We really are governed by a right bunch of *****. Advised by *****.


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    "With [Marcus] Rashford, the director of comms said to the PM - twice - don't pick a fight with Rashford. The PM decided to pick a fight and then surrendered twice."


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    Institutionally Islamophobic. Will the right wing media go berserk, in the same way they did with allegations of anti-Semitism within Labour?

    I wish they did say that, but sadly the enquiry found that there was NO evidence of institutional Islamophobia in the Tory party. Which is a joke since the ****ing LEADER of said party was making jokes about letter boxes and terrorists. As you say, the gulf between that and with what Corbyn actually said and did, and how he is now basically a meme for anti semitism is just disgusting.

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    He's just confirming what I've thought of Hancock since day 1. A lying, incompetent, self serving piece of tory ****. The ******* should be jailed!

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    Dominic Cummings says "it had already been decided I was going to move my family out of London regardless of the Covid rules" because of security threats against them

    He says when the story came out, he and the PM agreed to stonewall it due to security

    https://t.co/5j5uTmucd0 https://t.co/MwlXvzXJNa

    So which one was it? Childcare or security?
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    Thing is, sure as night follows day is that Boris will escape from this unscathed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Northernhibee View Post
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    Thing is, sure as night follows day is that Boris will escape from this unscathed.
    English people will support him in even higher numbers. They just can’t help tugging the forelock and bending the knee to anyone with a posh accent and demeanour. It’s just a reflection of the class system which seems to have re-established itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northernhibee View Post
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    Thing is, sure as night follows day is that Boris will escape from this unscathed.
    That's a cert. Hancock will be the scapegoat for the entire Gov. Cummings will be painted as an aggrieved ex employee who got the boot. I don't trust the Tory's, I don't trust Cummings either, if he had a shred of integrity he would have walked and talked much sooner. The truth will lay somewhere in the middle with much of what he is spilling imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santa Cruz View Post
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    That's a cert. Hancock will be the scapegoat for the entire Gov. Cummings will be painted as an aggrieved ex employee who got the boot. I don't trust the Tory's, I don't trust Cummings either, if he had a shred of integrity he would have walked and talked much sooner. The truth will lay somewhere in the middle with much of what he is spilling imo.
    Nah, Hancock will be safe too. It’s the Tory way.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Northernhibee View Post
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    Nah, Hancock will be safe too. It’s the Tory way.
    Hancock probably knows far more the Cummings does so will be safe from the sack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northernhibee View Post
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    Nah, Hancock will be safe too. It’s the Tory way.
    A seat in the Lords.
    Space to let

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
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    A seat in the Lords.
    He can have Ruth on his knee 😉

    Now that you can’t unsee that image 😁
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    Starmer looks and sounds like he’s meekly following Cummings in finally getting stuck into Johnson, although not being as critical or as incisive and without any genuine enthusiasm for it. And being led by events. Dominic ****ing Cummings playing a new role of leader of the opposition

    18 months ago this kind of spectacle would be unimaginable. The whole political system is in disarray.

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    Notable that Johnson’s likely successors, Sunak and Gove, both got off scot free. Despite both being at the heart of decision making and Sunak actually inviting the deniers in to argue against a 2nd lockdown.

    Can only mean Dom thinks he’s coming back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens View Post
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    Notable that Johnson’s likely successors, Sunak and Gove, both got off scot free. Despite both being at the heart of decision making and Sunak actually inviting the deniers in to argue against a 2nd lockdown.

    Can only mean Dom thinks he’s coming back.
    Cummings did leave a bit on Sunak as well, but he barely mentioned Gove through the whole seven hours. He’s waiting in the wings and is being primed to take over the project, without a doubt.

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    Cummings is and always has been Gove's man (or maybe vice versa). He was never incriminating him.

    Hancock was set up as the fall guy from about March 1st last year, I'm stunned he's lasted this long but he might be useful if there is an imminent enquiry.

    Sunak got off fairly lightly. It was his flip flopping and tardiness in continuing furlough that led to some of the riskiest behaviour last autumn.

    Johnson was incriminated as a total **** but we all knew that about him anyway.

    Cummings is a devious sort. I think he has told a version of the truth but it's his truth. He's dangerous.

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    Since when was Dominic Cummings such a stickler for protocol?!

    What a joke. His 'revelations' are only marginally more newsworthy than that farce around what sort of wallpaper Johnson's girlfriend bought. So people in government fall out, some of them can't stand each other and the UK, like most of the world, wasn't well enough prepared for a global pandemic. How about telling us something anyone with even the vaguest interest in current affairs didn't already know?

    Jilted ex-employee sticks it to his former employers is what this amounts to. Cummings is a crafty (and, admittedly, highly successful) campaigner to have on your side but sounds like he was a loose cannon when trying to help run the country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by He's here! View Post
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    Since when was Dominic Cummings such a stickler for protocol?!

    What a joke. His 'revelations' are only marginally more newsworthy than that farce around what sort of wallpaper Johnson's girlfriend bought. So people in government fall out, some of them can't stand each other and the UK, like most of the world, wasn't well enough prepared for a global pandemic. How about telling us something anyone with even the vaguest interest in current affairs didn't already know?

    Jilted ex-employee sticks it to his former employers is what this amounts to. Cummings is a crafty (and, admittedly, highly successful) campaigner to have on your side but sounds like he was a loose cannon when trying to help run the country.
    I think your playing down the death toll we experienced here by calling it simply a jilted ex exployee



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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty Boy View Post
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    Cummings is and always has been Gove's man (or maybe vice versa). He was never incriminating him.

    Hancock was set up as the fall guy from about March 1st last year, I'm stunned he's lasted this long but he might be useful if there is an imminent enquiry.

    Sunak got off fairly lightly. It was his flip flopping and tardiness in continuing furlough that led to some of the riskiest behaviour last autumn.

    Johnson was incriminated as a total **** but we all knew that about him anyway.

    Cummings is a devious sort. I think he has told a version of the truth but it's his truth. He's dangerous.

    Hancock is probably in the strongest position he's ever been in since the start, if he's sacked or demoted then that's the Government admitting everything Cummings said is true, Hancock is here for the duration now sadly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy Bee View Post
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    Hancock is probably in the strongest position he's ever been in since the start, if he's sacked or demoted then that's the Government admitting everything Cummings said is true, Hancock is here for the duration now sadly.
    He could resign, just like the Lord Advocate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santa Cruz View Post
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    He could resign, just like the Lord Advocate.
    I wouldn't be surprised if he did offer his resignation only for BJ to decline it and bolster his position even more. I don't think he has the balls for it though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy Bee View Post
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    Hancock is probably in the strongest position he's ever been in since the start, if he's sacked or demoted then that's the Government admitting everything Cummings said is true, Hancock is here for the duration now sadly.
    From a selfish point of view, Hancock doesn’t really affect things here in Scotland and all that extra money he wastes on his mates with massive PPE contracts means more Barnett consequential for us.


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    Older people from the north of England being interviewed on the news, giving it the “they tried their best”, “it’s easy to act in hindsight” and “we’re the best country at vaccinating people”.

    We’re absolutely doomed and these fuds are complicit in what this government are doing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Northernhibee View Post
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    Older people from the north of England being interviewed on the news, giving it the “they tried their best”, “it’s easy to act in hindsight” and “we’re the best country at vaccinating people”.

    We’re absolutely doomed and these fuds are complicit in what this government are doing.
    Why should they think any different when they’re being told that nobody could realistically have done any better?

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    Older people from the north of England being interviewed on the news, giving it the “they tried their best”, “it’s easy to act in hindsight” and “we’re the best country at vaccinating people”.

    We’re absolutely doomed and these fuds are complicit in what this government are doing.
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