Countdown to 3rd place thread

**Sir David Gray** · 01-05-2021 06:58 PM

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It’s Hibs, nothing about this is mind blowing.

That's true!

**Sir David Gray** · 01-05-2021 07:38 PM

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Should’ve been sewn up before the split.

I really thought it was with us 7 points ahead with 5 games left.

**~~MWHIBBIES~~** · 01-05-2021 07:58 PM

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Should’ve been sewn up before the split.

We should've been 15 points ahead? Seriously?

***hhibs*** · 01-05-2021 07:58 PM

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I really thought it was with us 7 points ahead with 5 games left.

After today ,we might well be **** ed

***Lancs Harp*** · 01-05-2021 08:00 PM

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I really thought it was with us 7 points ahead with 5 games left.

It was. We'll get over the line but should have been a bit more comfortable than this.

***Danderhall Hibs*** · 01-05-2021 08:07 PM

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We should've been 15 points ahead? Seriously?

Yeah - a loss at home to Motherwell, a draw away at Livi and a loss at StJohnstone from memory - turn that round and we’d have been done. Aberdeen couldn’t score a goal for weeks and we kept throwing points away.

**~~MWHIBBIES~~** · 01-05-2021 08:16 PM

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Yeah - a loss at home to Motherwell, a draw away at Livi and a loss at StJohnstone from memory - turn that round and we’d have been done. Aberdeen couldn’t score a goal for weeks and we kept throwing points away.

No, we didnt. We clawed back 4 points and a game in hand for them (so 7 point deficet potentially) to go 7 ahead. Thats excellent.

If we can just randomly add points that we didn't actually earn, cant Aberdeen do the same?

In that case, if they had won every game, they'd have won the league.

***Danderhall Hibs*** · 01-05-2021 08:18 PM

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No, we didnt. We clawed back 4 points and a game in hand for them (so 7 point deficet potentially) to go 7 ahead. Thats excellent.

If we can just randomly add points that we didn't actually earn, cant Aberdeen do the same?

In that case, if they had won every game, they'd have won the league.

Ok.

There were conversations at the time about it happening - Aberdeen were terrible at the time but we didn’t capitalise against teams we’ve been better than all season. 7 ahead and three points away (8 of them).

Depends how you want to spin it though and I appreciate that.

**~~MWHIBBIES~~** · 01-05-2021 08:20 PM

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Ok.

There were conversations at the time about it happening - Aberdeen were terrible at the time but we didn’t capitalise against teams we’ve been better than all season. 7 ahead and three points away (8 of them).

Depends how you want to spin it though and I appreciate that.

There was conversations about Doidge being rubbish. People will always talk absolute rubbish.

Hibs have had a very good league season.

***Danderhall Hibs*** · 01-05-2021 08:28 PM

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There was conversations about Doidge being rubbish. People will always talk absolute rubbish.

Hibs have had a very good league season.

I’m not denying either of your points - I agree we’ve had a good season. I just think 3rd could’ve / should’ve been seen up well before now and possibly even before the split. We’ve given Aberdeen a glimmer now - and got to go there next. It should never have been this close.

**~~MWHIBBIES~~** · 01-05-2021 08:49 PM

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I’m not denying either of your points - I agree we’ve had a good season. I just think 3rd could’ve / should’ve been seen up well before now and possibly even before the split. We’ve given Aberdeen a glimmer now - and got to go there next. It should never have been this close.

But they will think the same. They should've had it well in hand as well, they were miles ahead. Neither team has tied it up because neither is that much better than the other.

***AFKA5814_Hibs*** · 01-05-2021 08:59 PM

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But they will think the same. They should've had it well in hand as well, they were miles ahead. Neither team has tied it up because neither is that much better than the other.

I seen a meme recently that summed up the fight for 3rd place between Hibs and Aberdeen. It was 2 old guys that kept falling over themselves and neither could get over the finishing line.

***Danderhall Hibs*** · 01-05-2021 08:59 PM

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But they will think the same. They should've had it well in hand as well, they were miles ahead. Neither team has tied it up because neither is that much better than the other.

They might but they were consistently poor for ages, couldn’t score a goal never mind win matches - we were inconsistent and threw points away.

**davidgray210516** · 01-05-2021 09:00 PM

Really could genuinely not care about 1 league result left tbh. The cup is all that matters after rangers going out. We could finish 4th and get beat 7-0 the next 2 games for all I care, makes no difference. Win the cup though that’s a different story. Our season has been pinpointed down to the Scottish cup not 3rd or 4th.

**Sir David Gray** · 01-05-2021 09:05 PM

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After today ,we might well be **** ed

I still think we'll be ok. I think we'll lose at Pittodrie but I don't see Aberdeen getting anything at Ibrox on the final day and I think we'll lose to Celtic so I think we'll do it on goal difference.

**Ronniekirk** · 01-05-2021 09:19 PM

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If we win the cup nobody will care either way about third place. We'll have got both prizes that really matter - the cup itself and group stage European football.

And if we don't win the cup nobody will care either way about third place. We'll have missed out on both prizes that matter, the cup itself and group stage European football.

Strange the way it has worked out, but other than the prize money, which isn't massive, third is irrelevant now.

It’s a Big If though A performance like today and we have no chance
It’s the fact they made seven changes yet we hardly tested Thier keeper thsts the worry fir me And again we gift a goal and can’t change things to get back into the game

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***The Spaceman*** · 01-05-2021 09:20 PM

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Really could genuinely not care about 1 league result left tbh. The cup is all that matters after rangers going out. We could finish 4th and get beat 7-0 the next 2 games for all I care, makes no difference. Win the cup though that’s a different story. Our season has been pinpointed down to the Scottish cup not 3rd or 4th.

I’d love us to finish third, but the implications for us finishing there are now extremely marginal. Our season as you say now hinges on the Scottish Cup - the game changer for us will be winning that competition. We are guaranteed Euro football now to the same extent fourth is. I have a lot less interest in the league now, which is awful I know.

***JohnM1875*** · 01-05-2021 09:52 PM

If we don't finish third after the advantage we held over Aberdeen I'd be fuming. Especially after today.

St Johnstone rested what, six or so first team players? We didn't, we played at full strength as much as possible. So we, as a club, clearly care about finishing third.

Shocking performance today. So deflated after that.

***hhibs*** · 01-05-2021 10:14 PM

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I still think we'll be ok. I think we'll lose at Pittodrie but I don't see Aberdeen getting anything at Ibrox on the final day and I think we'll lose to Celtic so I think we'll do it on goal difference.

Hope we do emerge but that would be a horrible end of season collapse and,it is not impossible given the level of the performance,or lack of,today .

If that was combined with Cup failure that would be a truly awful end to our season.

**Gordy M** · 01-05-2021 10:35 PM

Aberdeen 8/1 to finish top w/o the old firm so money to be made for those thinking we wont finish 3rd.

***The Harp*** · 01-05-2021 11:14 PM

Before today's game I expected us to take at least as much from it as Aberdeen would take from their game at Livi.

I've been supporting Hibs long enough that I should've remembered that's not the way we do things.

Worst case scenario for me is Aberdeen to beat us on the 12th by up to 3 goals, meaning they will be level on 59 points with us but we will be 3 goals better off.

It will then be all down to how we get on against Celtic and how they fare v the Huns. Looking at it logically I can't see them taking anything away from Ibrox, and I think the most we can hope for is a point against Celtic. Or even if we lose I wouldn't expect it to be by more than they do, so we would finish in 3rd place.

Apologies for the negative post, and I hope to hell we clinch it by winning at Pittodrie, but that's not the Hibs way :(

***Unseen work*** · 01-05-2021 11:25 PM

A couple of days ago people were making out third wasn’t important and we should put all our focus on the cup.

This is what I feared.

Aberdeen have it all to gain here, been slaughtered all season for being poor and now they have the chance to nick third.

We’re never great against Aberdeen so I don’t fancy is at all and then Celtic and rangers fixtures are a lottery.

Not finishing third would be a massive massive blow.

**Sir David Gray** · 01-05-2021 11:25 PM

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Before today's game I expected us to take at least as much from it as Aberdeen would take from their game at Livi.

I've been supporting Hibs long enough that I should've remembered that's not the way we do things.

Worst case scenario for me is Aberdeen to beat us on the 12th by up to 3 goals, meaning they will be level on 59 points with us but we will be 3 goals better off.

It will then be all down to how we get on against Celtic and how they fare v the Huns. Looking at it logically I can't see them taking anything away from Ibrox, and I think the most we can hope for is a point against Celtic. Or even if we lose I wouldn't expect it to be by more than they do, so we would finish in 3rd place.

Apologies for the negative post, and I hope to hell we clinch it by winning at Pittodrie, but that's not the Hibs way :(

Yeah I think we'll need to do it on goal difference I don't have much confidence of us getting anything at Pittodrie.

**IberianHibernian** · 01-05-2021 11:55 PM

For weeks I`ve been reading here that we were guaranteed third because Aberdeen would get nothing against Rangers and Celtic . Every year there are funny results at the end of the season with teams playing for very little dropping ponts to supposedly weaker teams who need the points ( Ross County at Tannadice for example ) . If we get to the last day hoping Rangers beat Aberdeen we`ll be struggling . I spent most of today`s game looking to see if Livi could get a point or more given that we never looked like scoring . If we draw at Pittodrie we should get third but if we lose even by one goal , it could be a difficult last day . If we`re in cup final , people will say it doesn`t matter but if we finish 4th and don`t win cup , this season will not be considered a success by many .

**Sir David Gray** · 01-05-2021 11:58 PM

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For weeks I`ve been reading here that we were guaranteed third because Aberdeen would get nothing against Rangers and Celtic . Every year there are funny results at the end of the season with teams playing for very little dropping ponts to supposedly weaker teams who need the points ( Ross County at Tannadice for example ) . If we get to the last day hoping Rangers beat Aberdeen we`ll be struggling . I spent most of today`s game looking to see if Livi could get a point or more given that we never looked like scoring . If we draw at Pittodrie we should get third but if we lose even by one goal , it could be a difficult last day . If we`re in cup final , people will say it doesn`t matter but if we finish 4th and don`t win cup , this season will not be considered a success by many .

Finishing 4th and failing to win the cup is an unthinkable scenario.

***cubehindthegoal*** · 02-05-2021 12:03 AM

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Yeah - a loss at home to Motherwell, a draw away at Livi and a loss at StJohnstone from memory - turn that round and we’d have been done. Aberdeen couldn’t score a goal for weeks and we kept throwing points away.

Ifs and buts ... it’s easy to criticise the points we’ve missed, and ignore the points we have gained when we perhaps shouldn’t have ...but that is a contradiction, and a very unfair one on our team.

***Danderhall Hibs*** · 02-05-2021 07:40 AM

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Ifs and buts ... it’s easy to criticise the points we’ve missed, and ignore the points we have gained when we perhaps shouldn’t have ...but that is a contradiction, and a very unfair one on our team.

I know it’s similar to the “can’t win big games” (if you exclude the big games won) argument but there were a few games, like I mentioned, prior to the split where we could’ve nailed 3rd down, mainly due to Aberdeen’s failings.

Massive opportunity missed and we’ve now put pressure on ourselves to go either go to Pittodrie to get something or get something from Celtic on the last day.

There was so much talk about how Aberdeen can’t win enough games after the split to turn it round and I think we all started believing/hoping that. As it is they’ve got 7/9 (thankfully Griffiths got that last minute goal last week) and have put themselves in a position to pull the 7 points back on us with 1 to play despite barely scoring a goal between January and April.

It should never have got to this.

**Spike Mandela** · 02-05-2021 08:05 AM

Before we won the cup in 2016 we lost in the play offs to Falkirk. Yes, THAT Falkirk

We had also contrived that season to lose the league cup final to Ross County.

Nothing is ever easy or predetermined fate in the football universe. In the 3 or, hopefully, 4 matches left this season anything could happen. We could end up 3rd and Scottish cup winners, 4th and losing semi finalists or any combination of results inbetween.

I say buckle up and enjoy the ride. Football is frustrating but it can be f***ing brilliant as well.

**Crunchie** · 02-05-2021 08:30 AM

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Before we won the cup in 2016 we lost in the play offs to Falkirk. Yes, THAT Falkirk

We had also contrived that season to lose the league cup final to Ross County.

Nothing is ever easy or predetermined fate in the football universe. In the 3 or, hopefully, 4 matches left this season anything could happen. We could end up 3rd and Scottish cup winners, 4th and losing semi finalists or any combination of results inbetween.

I say buckle up and enjoy the ride. Football is frustrating but it can be f***ing brilliant as well.