Brexit - What Now.

[Hibrandenburg]

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It's close starmer is right of a centre left party she is left of a centre right party. Regardless her lack of lockdown and pitiful apologising for considering a lockdown, means many days of 30,000 cases recently and hundreds of deaths

As I explained at the beginning of this thread, in Germany it's been laid down in law for decades about who has the power to do what, the German Seuchengesetz (epidemic law) puts most of the powers with the Bundesländern (states), I think her u-turn will have been forced upon her by the state presidents.

[Stairway 2 7]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...surge-in-cases

She's going to pass a law to change that she admits they should have done it sooner. Shambles like watching a car crash in slow motion. Europe's reaction this year is like the UK's last year watching the devastation in Milan. There is no excuse for the deaths in Europe this year they had months of watching the Kent variant speed up. Lockdown would have saved thousands of lives in each country

[Hibrandenburg]

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...surge-in-cases

She's going to pass a law to change that she admits they should have done it sooner. Shambles like watching a car crash in slow motion. Europe's reaction this year is like the UK's last year watching the devastation in Milan. There is no excuse for the deaths in Europe this year they had months of watching the Kent variant speed up. Lockdown would have saved thousands of lives in each country

The laws currently in place were never conceived to counter an epidemic that lasts this long. The problem is not Merkel, the problem is smaller parties on the extreme left and right encouraging civil disobedience in the measures already in place. These parties thrive on public dissatisfaction and therefore encourage it. If she goes all authoritarian then she gives them more ammunition, if she's seen to be too weak then she gives them more ammunition. She's damned if she does and damned if she doesn't. The majority are still following guidelines, but as we know, with Covid that's not enough, everybody has to abide by the restrictions. At the end of the day and when all this is over, the only thing that will count is the death count and the economy. With the vaccine campaign now getting into swing, I think Germany will be licking its wounds like most European nations, but considering the large population I think they'll give her a pass mark.

[Moulin Yarns]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-56932551

No cod suppers in English chippies.

[Bostonhibby]

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-56932551

No cod suppers in English chippies.

Bozo will just rebrand eels as cod and his supporters will chomp merrily on.

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[StevieC]

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Bozo will just rebrand eels as cod and his supporters will chomp merrily on.

And the British eels will be happier for it 😉

[Bostonhibby]

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And the British eels will be happier for it

Bloody eels, coming over here and replacing all our cod (well technically it never was ours but... rule Britannia and all that)

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[Glory Lurker]

So the UK, with all its glorious history and nukes and better way of doing things, gets banjoed by tiny Norway? How? How could that possibly happen? Oh, not being in the EU. Ah, that makes sense.

Well, it's just some folk in Hull. Boris cares nil about their sort. And Keir? He'll just be saying "let them decorate from John Lewis".

[danhibees1875]

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-56932551

No cod suppers in English chippies.

In theory there is still going to be cod, it's just the Norwegians will catch it.

I can't remember which way round is meant to be better/cheaper but I imagine that means cod will become more expensive and haddock will become the "go to" fish for people (if it isn't already - my gut instinct would be to order haddock I think).

[ronaldo7]

UK Gov fail to even maintain the amount of fish caught in the last 10 years.

Selling out the fishing industry again, those broad shoulders have sloped again.

Something tells me we'd be better doing the negotiations ourselves.

[tamig]

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In theory there is still going to be cod, it's just the Norwegians will catch it.

I can't remember which way round is meant to be better/cheaper but I imagine that means cod will become more expensive and haddock will become the "go to" fish for people (if it isn't already - my gut instinct would be to order haddock I think).

Haddock is the traditional go-to in a Scottish fish supper. Cod more popular down south. Haddock is by far the tastier fish imo. Johnson better keep his mitts off our haddock.

[Bostonhibby]

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Haddock is the traditional go-to in a Scottish fish supper. Cod more popular down south. Haddock is by far the tastier fish imo. Johnson better keep his mitts off our haddock.

Getting cod wont be a problem, it's just that it'll be Norwegian for the time being. Whatever that means. Another Brexit bonus.

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[lapsedhibee]

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Getting cod wont be a problem, it's just that it'll be Norwegian for the time being. Whatever that means. Another Brexit bonus.

Pretty sure it means the fish won't be happy.

[Bostonhibby]

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Pretty sure it means the fish won't be happy.

"Fish in our time"

Other equally incomprehensible but populist sounding statements are available.



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[Ozyhibby]

Haddock for me. Cod seems a bit oily for me.


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[cabbageandribs1875]

1. Lemon Sole
2, Haddock

my favs

[cabbageandribs1875]

plenty of jobs for Brexit Brits now

[Bostonhibby]

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plenty of jobs for Brexit Brits now

Good shout, quite a few of them will know what knives and forks are so it's a start.

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[Jack]

Fishing row triggers French threat of Jersey power cut

The French government has voiced anger over what it calls new UK fishing rules in the Channel and warns it could cut electricity to Jersey in response.

Maritime Minister Annick Girardin told the French parliament that the new rules governing access to Channel Islands waters were unacceptable.

She said "we are ready to use the retaliatory measures" under the UK-EU post-Brexit trade deal.

She then mentioned France's underwater cables supplying power to Jersey.

"I am sorry it has come to this [but] we will do so if we have to," she said.

In a statement to AFP news agency, the French fisheries ministry said the UK had introduced "new technical measures" linked to licences for fishing off the Channel Islands, which had not been communicated to the EU and were, therefore, "null and void".


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A week ago French Europe Minister Clément Beaune accused the UK of blocking fishing rights. He said the EU could respond with "reprisals" in financial services.

French fishermen have complained of being prevented from operating in British waters because of difficulties in obtaining licences.

Meanwhile, British seafood exporters have been hit by an EU ban on UK exports of live shellfish. Scottish firms account for most of that business, and some now face collapse.

Last week the UK also failed to get a new fishing agreement with Norway. That failure threatens to prevent British trawlers catching cod in Norway's sub-Arctic seas.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-56984886

[Northernhibee]

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plenty of jobs for Brexit Brits now

I also don’t know any furloughed workers who aren’t dying to return to work. What’s the betting that it’s because their workplace haven’t been seen to put in enough safeguards to make unvaccinated workers safe?

[wookie70]

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I also don’t know any furloughed workers who aren’t dying to return to work. What’s the betting that it’s because their workplace haven’t been seen to put in enough safeguards to make unvaccinated workers safe?

If I was furloughed I would have loved it to have continued as long as possible. My aspirations are to retire though and working has never really appealed to me. Given there have been deaths, most notably one at DVLA, where workers have been forced to return to unsafe workplaces I hope that all the safeguards are put in place before workers are back in post.

[Northernhibee]

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If I was furloughed I would have loved it to have continued as long as possible. My aspirations are to retire though and working has never really appealed to me. Given there have been deaths, most notably one at DVLA, where workers have been forced to return to unsafe workplaces I hope that all the safeguards are put in place before workers are back in post.

At a time where zero hours contracts are prevalent and self employments gig economy jobs are on the rise, there should be a question about what employers are doing to make their workplaces places where people don’t just want to work but are able to. Blaming workers who need to be guaranteed a wage is proper Tory playbook stuff.

Brexit is only going to make that worse.

[wookie70]

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At a time where zero hours contracts are prevalent and self employments gig economy jobs are on the rise, there should be a question about what employers are doing to make their workplaces places where people don’t just want to work but are able to. Blaming workers who need to be guaranteed a wage is proper Tory playbook stuff.

Brexit is only going to make that worse.

I am certainly not blaming workers. Employers, including the government, have to make workplaces safe. Workers should always resist working in unsafe conditions and indeed DVLA staff are doing just that right now.

[Northernhibee]

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I am certainly not blaming workers. Employers, including the government, have to make workplaces safe. Workers should always resist working in unsafe conditions and indeed DVLA staff are doing just that right now.

Indeed, we’re very much on the same page there.

[Hibrandenburg]

The EU is concerned about EU citizens being held in UK detention centres.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ind...053.html%3famp

[Hibrandenburg]

Brits living abroad for more than 15 years to be given back their right to vote.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-right-to-vote

[Ozyhibby]

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Brits living abroad for more than 15 years to be given back their right to vote.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-right-to-vote

Does this apply in Scotland?


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[Future17]

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Brits living abroad for more than 15 years to be given back their right to vote.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-right-to-vote

Part of a cynical manoeuvre by the Tories to consolidate power. FWIW, I think it's ridiculous that people living outside the UK for that length of time would still get a say in how its governed.

[Future17]

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Does this apply in Scotland?


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No. Sorry, just to clarify, it wouldn't apply for Scotland-only elections and referendums.

[Hibrandenburg]

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Does this apply in Scotland?


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As long as Scotland is part of the UK, then I'd imagine so.