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    Players going to be banned from European and international fixtures, including the world cup and Euros if they participate

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    Give me Scottish football any day over that. Rarely pay attention to champions League football as it is never mind this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Since452 View Post
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    Give me Scottish football any day over that. Rarely pay attention to champions League football as it is never mind this.
    There are loads of people like you but the clubs know loads more will tune in.


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    There will be a lot of politics in this, ultimately these teams want guaranteed Champions League access regardless of league performance and to be honest they hold power over UEFA at this stage.

    If it gets to stage where UEFA are willing to give them that, and I think we're almost there, then it would be as well for them to head off and do their own thing.

    The average football supporter these days would rather watch Liverpool play PSG instead of watch them play Everton, Leeds or Brighton. At our level it makes little difference, regardless of whether you think Scottish football would be better or worse off without the Glasgow two, something like this will probably have no impact on our league anyway.

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    No mention of Hearts.Bit suprised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES View Post
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    Players going to be banned from European and international fixtures, including the world cup and Euros if they participate
    That’s a bit harsh on the players, it’s not like they have a choice in the matter.

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    Let them all go and do not let them back in when it goes to the wall. **** modern football, we will be better off without them

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    Quote Originally Posted by mayo hibee View Post
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    There will be a lot of politics in this, ultimately these teams want guaranteed Champions League access regardless of league performance and to be honest they hold power over UEFA at this stage.

    If it gets to stage where UEFA are willing to give them that, and I think we're almost there, then it would be as well for them to head off and do their own thing.

    The average football supporter these days would rather watch Liverpool play PSG instead of watch them play Everton, Leeds or Brighton. At our level it makes little difference, regardless of whether you think Scottish football would be better or worse off without the Glasgow two, something like this will probably have no impact on our league anyway.
    Without Celtic or Rangers, Hibs would have to seriously cut our overheads. Training centre would not survive.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lord bunberry View Post
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    That’s a bit harsh on the players, it’s not like they have a choice in the matter.
    Course they do. Refuse to play if clubs go ahead. 100% does not happen if players all refuse. Would likely be big time legal battles because they've signed contracts to play for Liverpool in the premier league, not the atlantic league (for example)

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    I’ve been posting on here and elsewhere for years that this was inevitable. I’m convinced the end game is an NFL style system or similar. I won’t be paying a subscription for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES View Post
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    Course they do. Refuse to play if clubs go ahead. 100% does not happen if players all refuse.
    Players will go where the most money is.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Without Celtic or Rangers, Hibs would have to seriously cut our overheads. Training centre would not survive.


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    Take it you mean without the same size of TV deal. As Celtic and Rangers don’t bring much income to Hibs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Without Celtic or Rangers, Hibs would have to seriously cut our overheads. Training centre would not survive.


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    I don't see the giants of European football kicking down the doors at Parkhead and Ibrox to get those two involved to be honest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lord bunberry View Post
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    That’s a bit harsh on the players, it’s not like they have a choice in the matter.
    Not really harsh, they have a choice to make, stay with the club knowing the implications of doing that or find another club where they can play international football. If they are under contract then they can just relinquish any money due from the contract and sign for someone else. It probably isn’t as easy as that for all players but will be for the majority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigwheel View Post
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    Take it you mean without the same size of TV deal. As Celtic and Rangers don’t bring much income to Hibs.
    Yes. TV money, sponsorship money would all drop dramatically if they are not there. There is no future that is better for Hibs in a smaller league with a bigger league operating in Scotland.


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    I've always been pretty firm that any closed-shop Super League won't get my attention; I wouldn't even watch it. No interest in a no-risk money league.

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    I've always been pretty firm that any closed-shop Super League won't get my attention; I wouldn't even watch it. No interest in a no-risk money league.
    Exactly. Football is a sport, competitive at that with winners losers, champions and relegations. Closed door leagues can have the best players if it likes, absolutely no excitement from me. Novelty would soon wear off for fans.

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    UEFA have a cheek. They've made a mockery of the Champions League. Basically a closed shop to the big teams from the big leagues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Players will go where the most money is.


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    Messi and Ronaldo would both prefer the world cup over money at this point. Plenty others the same. The world cup is the peak for a majority of top players. They wont ignore it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Yes. TV money, sponsorship money would all drop dramatically if they are not there. There is no future that is better for Hibs in a smaller league with a bigger league operating in Scotland.


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    Not so sure it’s as straight as that..Hibs in the first division has always been interesting..the thought of occasionally winning the league would be magic ..I’m tired of the monopoly these clubs have in Scotland

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    Quote Originally Posted by Since452 View Post
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    UEFA have a cheek. They've made a mockery of the Champions League. Basically a closed shop to the big teams from the big leagues.
    To be fair to uefa, it’s because of the constant annual threat from these clubs that they keep backing down to their demands. This is just the latest round. This league will happen, it’s just a case of whether it’s under a uefa banner or through a break away.


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    Maybe a threat by these 'super' clubs. Give us what we want or we'll break away.

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    Seems like it’s a power play, to get leverage etc and bring it all to a head. That Barca and to an extent Madrid are desperate for cash is probably what’s kicked this into a higher gear after years of rumours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES View Post
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    Messi and Ronaldo would both prefer the world cup over money at this point. Plenty others the same. The world cup is the peak for a majority of top players. They wont ignore it.
    Agree but it works both ways. A World Cup without the top players there would be seriously diminished and May struggle to attract broadcasters and sponsors.
    I watched all this happen in the mid 90’s with Australian rugby league. It’s messy but money rules the roost in the end.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mayo hibee View Post
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    I don't see the giants of European football kicking down the doors at Parkhead and Ibrox to get those two involved to be honest.
    That’s correct but both Rangers and Celtic would be invited to join a new look English Premier league. Money talks.

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